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In all seriousness, what has happened to this website ? Why have all the members disappeared ? Is it just because of the state of wrestling ? Has everyone just moved on ?

I decided to start this since I saw the top 50 matches thread.I figured it would be easier to do each wrestling company seperate.These are my opinion and are open to discussion,criticism,hate mail etc.I will start the list later. Also,Where do I go to to post pictures of the matches ?Obviously I can post everything without pictures but I think it would be better.

I decided to bump this since I bumped the wcw thread. With more stuff being added on 24/7 and the dvd releases that have come out since I did this list, There is a decent amount of stuff I would change from the list I did. One different thing when comparing this with my wcw list is that most of the top matches in my wwe list would stay there and the changes would be in the bottom half. Anyone else have any opinions on this list three years later ? What would you add/drop ? Btw, there is no way I would be able to do a list from 89-08 because I haven't watched much modern wrestling at all post 2005. Oddly enough, I can still watch older wrestling no problem.

I was going through the wcw threads over at smarkschoice and I thought I would revisit this thread I started. Looking back on it, there is a good amount I would change as some stuff doesn't hold up for me anymore while other matches were left off my list either because I didn't remember much about them or I forgot them completely. What does everyone else think of my list now compared to when it was done ?

First off,this list is only one mans' opinion and is not set in stone.My memory is not as good as it was with the wwf list.If a certain match is not on the list of 100 it is because I either didn't see it or don't remember anything about it.For example,I saw flair vs pilman and magnum vs nikita once.I saw them so long ago that I don't remember anything about them other than they are said to be good matches.Since I want to list everything according to the way I see it and not by overall popular opinion,they will not be listed.Also,there were tons of cruiserweight matches in the late 90s and many just feel the same.Because of that reason I listed the ones that I feel stood out above the rest.Having said all of that,I hope you enjoy my top 100 nwa/wcw matches of its last 20 years. 100. SCOTT STEINER VS GOLDBERG FALL BRAWL 2000 This is one you are left scratching your head on.Goldberg is a very limited wrestler.At this point in his career,so was scott steiner.It should make for another bad match in a bad year for wcw.Instead,we got a great power match that is way better than what you would expect.A fun match that is overlooked because of what else wcw had to offer that year. 99. ROAD WARRIARS VS MIDNIGHT EXPRESS CROCKET CUP 87 The road warriars were rarely in a competitive match.They squashed all of their opponents.How does the midnight express deal with this ?By cheating every 10 seconds.These two teams had the only decent scaffold match I remember at starcade 86.This match is better than that.I loved the road warriars back in the day and this is a very fun match that is only hurt by it being a little too short. 98. GOLDBERG VS DIAMOND DALLAS PAGE HALLOWEEN HAVOC 98 The best match goldberg has ever been in.Page was known for mapping out every move in advance which is something that helped this match.I thought ddp was better than people gave him credit for and he pulled off a miracle against someone who up until that point hadn't wrestled a 15 minute match before. 97. JAMIE KNOBLE/EVAN KARAGIAS VS YUN YANG/KAZ HAYASHI 1/14/01 By this point,wcw was unofficially dead.What they did the last 3 months was give more time to the midcarders.If only they had done that 3 years earlier.The result was some pretty good matches.The matches between 3 count and the jung dragons were really good and this was the best of the bunch. 96. ROCK N ROLL EXPRESS VS RICK RUDE/MANNY FERNANDEZ 12/86 This is not a title change but a match where the rock n roll express are challenging for the titles on a saturday night broadcast.This is the usual rock n roll tag formula greatness.Not as good as I would have expected but its still a nice 20+ minute old fashion tag match where we get to see ricky morton play,well,himself.

I am lifting this from the WCW facts and tidbits thread. I didn't get internet access until 2000. What were some of the rumors going around on the iwc during the monday night wars. An example I took from the wcw thread would be: Eric Bischoff saying on nitro he has a surprise that Vince Mcmahan can't do anything about and the iwc claiming Shane Mcmahan was secretly joining wcw as an advisor.

This thread is not intended to talk about how Hogan went to wcw and made the product worse. That has been done to death. When looking back at 1994 wcw I noticed how much better it was than the previous year. They had a lot of the same talent but ppvs and matches were greatly improved from 93 imo. Here are some bullet points to discuss. Dustin Rhodes vs The Stud Stable Terry Funk Returns Cactus Jack vs The Nasty Boys Steven Regal brings Larry Zbysko out of retirement Vader vs The Boss Flair plays the tweener role vs Ricky Steamboat Austins U.S. title feuds with Mero and Steamboat The Overall greatness that was Spring Stampede and Slamboree

I started this topic because I figured there would be a lot of people who would buy this. I got mine today but I didn't start watching it yet. Discuss your thoughts on the Flair shoot here.

In regards to Mero, I always thought he got too many negative comments his way. When you look at his in ring work, I thought it was very solid. Some will say he was in there with good opponents in wcw but I thought he held his own and had good matches with Austin,Regal,Pilman,Anderson,etc. He also carried ddp and hhh when both were very green. I'll agree that he didn't find a good gimmick until 98 though.

I remember when I did these lists. Looking back on it, there isn't much I would change. There were several different eras in nwa/wcw so it all depends on what style you like the most. I always like the Crocket years the most so the matches with flair, the express teams, wargames were the matches I had at the top.

I was wondering what they do with the events that are taped ahead of time in regards to editing in the tv commercials. For example, if there is a long match and they put in a 5 minute commercial break, do they edit out 5 minutes of the match or do they return where they left off before the break and pretend like 5 minutes has passed during the match ?

I thought I would stick with the wrestlemania theme. This remains the best top to bottom wrestlemania card imo. Does everyone else still hold this show in the same regard as they did 7 years ago ?

With this decade only having two years remaining, how do you think it compares to the wwf matches in the 90s ? I think most will be quick to say the 90s were better but if you take a closer look you might think otherwise. Take 5 of the top matches from both decades for example. 90s gave us: Bret/Austin wm13 Bret/Owen wm10 Shawn/Ramon wm10 Bret/Davey Boy ss92 Flair/Savage wm8 00s gave us: Austin/Rock wm17 HHH/Cactus rumble00 Angle/Benoit rumble03 Shawn/HHH/Benoit wm20 Austin/Angle ss01 Obviously the late 90s had the best angles with Austin/Mcmahan,DX,etc but if you just look at the in ring product, I think the 00s were very good overall. Thoughts ?

With the rumble coming up that means it's almost time for the road to wrestlemania to start. We all have our favorite wm matches like the original ladder match to bret/austin to savage/steamboat. We also have lesser moments that don't go talked about that make the ppv or match extra special. Name some of your favorite wrestlemania moments. Here are a few to start. Mean Gene anouncing the attendance record at wm3. The ref explaining the rules to both wrestlers before the ironman match started at wm12 Ultimate Warrior returning at wm8 The mini carts at wm3,6 Vince thanking the fans for there support at wm20

Did someone say playoffs ?

While I didn't like the movie, I always found this speech to be awesome.

Off topic but after seeing the Dennis Green commercial I pose this question. Which was the better post game tirade: Dennis Green's "Crown em" or Jim Mora's "Playoffs" ?

Here is one of Bret's bitter promos from the night after the 97 rumble.

Here is an awesome promo from austin. This is from mind games. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkzNitbRcJQ

Here is a clip of back when raw was fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-4BJChqm0c

Bret Hart snaps on raw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ArRMvJn78

Considering the rumored matches going into wm2, here is the card I would've put together. NY 1. Orndorff vs Bob Orton 2. Bruno vs Ventura 3. Savage vs Santana IC belt 4. Piper vs Mr T Chicago 1. Hart Foundation vs Killer Bees 2. Jake Roberts vs George Welles 3. Battle Royal 4. Buldogs vs Dream Team LA 1. Crush Girls vs ? 2. Steamboat vs Muraco 3. JYD vs Terry Funk 4. Hogan vs Bundy

Words can't describe how funny that situation is. The fact that Flair was in competition with Jesus, the fact that Jesus was dropped on the ballot for Hitler, or the fact that Raven was on the list. Take your pick on what the funniest part of that is. There is no wrong answer. I tried the link to all of those quotes and it won't work. Does anyone have the link to those anymore ?

1. What if Shawn Michaels didn't lose his smile and had the rematch with Bret at wm13. That means there we would have missed out on the classic bret/austin double turn. How would that effect the Austin era ? 2. This might be the biggest what if. What if Verne Gagne put the belt on Hogan and he stayed in the AWA as a result. What would the wwe look like today if Hogan didn't jump when he did ?

DeepDiscount.com has a dvd called The Rock's greatest matches listed. What is this ?