Guest Y2DAYDAY Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Because WM and overseas tours being successful are SURE signs of a turn-around, and not, you know, pretty much GIVENS for years and years now. WM isn't a given. They did 565,000 buys two years ago for a triple main of Angle vs Lesnar, a supposed dream match,Rock vs Austin 3, and another supposed dream match, Hogan vs McMahon. 940,000 as the early estimate is not a given, in fact it is already the second biggest number ever already. So basically, 940,000 is nuclear and is the given and a lot more at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 "Almost everyone internally was pleased with Mondays Raw show, which was wrestling focused. Morale overall is high, with many thinking that business is finally beginning to rise, with an excellent PPV buyrate for WrestleMania, a sold out, high grossing European tour and steady TV ratings. " Because WM and overseas tours being successful are SURE signs of a turn-around, and not, you know, pretty much GIVENS for years and years now. And let's also see how long this "wrestling-focused" TV lasts. My guess? It's already forgotten come Monday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 OK. It's obvious that alot of fans know the story behind Edge/Lita and Matt. However, I don't think that will necessarily work has a storyline idea, especially if Matt Hardy isn't brought back. Lita turns on Kane, and joins with Edge? Why exactly? Because their dating in real life. Big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shadow Report post Posted May 4, 2005 I have a feeling they will do the exact same thing that happened in real life here just subbing kane for Matt Hardy. I mean they should make it identical. Have Kane call lita's phone and get no answer, then 2 minutes later Kane walks into the dressing room and sees Edge on a cell phone as well as Edge quiets down a little. Kane shrugs it off. and walks out to the back where he sees Lita in the hallway sitting on stairway on a phone and sees kane and quickly puts the phone away. and then obviously we know where it all ends up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted May 4, 2005 And if Sytch comes back; she needs to be with Simon Dean. He can show some pics of her out of shape and say she's back to Body Dona shape thanks to the Simon System. Come on, it would be great. He could do the same thing with the Blue Meanie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Oh come on, Kane is a complete idiot. You think he'll see a connection in 2 people using phones? He's almost the WWF version of Sting, except he hasn't been tricked by Ric Flair 56,000 times. He could do the same thing with the Blue Meanie Didn't the Meanie lose like 150 pounds and slim down to become Mr. Skinny, or did he recently pack the pounds back on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 I have a feeling they will do the exact same thing that happened in real life here just subbing kane for Matt Hardy. I mean they should make it identical. Have Kane call lita's phone and get no answer, then 2 minutes later Kane walks into the dressing room and sees Edge on a cell phone as well as Edge quiets down a little. Kane shrugs it off. and walks out to the back where he sees Lita in the hallway sitting on stairway on a phone and sees kane and quickly puts the phone away. and then obviously we know where it all ends up. Lita's horrible acting ability would kill this storyline immediatley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted May 4, 2005 So the No. 1 contender tourney on RAW looks like it's just something to set up the Kane-Edge-Lita thing. I'm assuming Kane and Edge meet in the finals, Lita does the turn and helps Edge in, which leads to a Kane-Edge match with Edge's second No. 1 contender shot on the line? And I haven't watched/paid attention to WWE in a while; what is the real-life Edge-Lita-Matt story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Readers Digest version please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jumpingbombangel Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Didn't the Meanie lose like 150 pounds and slim down to become Mr. Skinny, or did he recently pack the pounds back on? Yeah, he's gotten pretty hefty again lately. I dunno if it's the 3PW mess with Jasmin or whatever, but he's not the same as he was 4 years ago. Considering the past problems Sytch has had in the wrestler business, maybe she's better off staying away from the business altogether. I hope not. If Candido could come back after all the shit he went through, Tammy can, too. Besides, look at the guys these days that she used to run with...HBK is Jesus's boy, HHH probably would see signing her as a charity case/throwing her a biscuit these days, Hall and Nash have their own issues to deal with...no one's gonna bother a widow trying to fight off her demons. I say she needs to come back, just so the fans can (hopefully) show her she's still appreciated in the business after how she's revolutionized how women are looked at in wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 I don't like how they move people to the opposite division just for some current scenario. The person just gets lost in the shuffle. If they do move Angle I hope there is a bigger plan than just some silly Masterlock challenge thing although I think this has no bearing, but we'll see. Kurt Angle and HHH both jockeying for the top heel spot? They might as well throw UT on RAW too, so he can bitch HBK backstage and we can get some 90's wcw soap opera backstage I guess Edge is screwed of any title reign(not that he deserves it, but they seem to really force this guy on the audience). I'd laugh if the audience doesn't give Lita/Edge any reaction because of being put on screen together. That is a way to screw up their push. However, I don't think that many people really know the real story and they do need Matt Hardy. It will just look like any other storyline such as Trish turning on Jericho at WM XX. The general fans know Matt was Lita's girlfriend even in storylines. You guys think bringing back Tammy will be some kind of respect for what she did for wrestling? Look what they've done to the women's division and look what they've done to Sable. Vince made her end up doing what she left the company for in the first place. Trish kind of insulted Moolah at the RAW X show with her comments about wrestling being known for having ugly woman until she arrived performing in the ring or something along those lines. Moolah who was the division. Look how they mocked Scott Hall with his drinking habit in 2002. This company kind of acts childish with situations like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Oh come on, Kane is a complete idiot. You think he'll see a connection in 2 people using phones? He's almost the WWF version of Sting, except he hasn't been tricked by Ric Flair 56,000 times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jumpingbombangel Report post Posted May 5, 2005 You guys think bringing back Tammy will be some kind of respect for what she did for wrestling? Look what they've done to the women's division and look what they've done to Sable. Vince made her end up doing what she left the company for in the first place. Trish kind of insulted Moolah at the RAW X show with her comments about wrestling being known for having ugly woman until she arrived performing in the ring or something along those lines. Moolah who was the division. Look how they mocked Scott Hall with his drinking habit in 2002. This company kind of acts childish with situations like this. Word...WTF was I thinking the WW*E* would ever honor a woman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 5, 2005 You guys think bringing back Tammy will be some kind of respect for what she did for wrestling? Look what they've done to the women's division and look what they've done to Sable. Vince made her end up doing what she left the company for in the first place. Trish kind of insulted Moolah at the RAW X show with her comments about wrestling being known for having ugly woman until she arrived performing in the ring or something along those lines. Moolah who was the division. Look how they mocked Scott Hall with his drinking habit in 2002. This company kind of acts childish with situations like this. Word...WTF was I thinking the WW*E* would ever honor a woman? How do you "honor" tits & ass? Honestly. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 How come no one's mentioned that this news came from "pwbts.com"? I've never even heard of that site. I'd say there's about an 90% chance that this was made up. I mean, "the locker room was tense when Vince was there", "the WWE's happy about the ratings and the WM buyrate", "Christian's expected to go to Smackdown". This is just textbook, as far as the kind of news you'd make up if you had no idea whatsoever what was really happening backstage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 MikeSC and iggymcfly you both got a point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 To be honest some of that stuff seems like the kind of hearsay that Scherer and CO. would report. Not like it didn't seem plausible. If it said "They'll trade Mark Jindrak to Raw and have him win the title" then I'd be suspicious (I read something similar to this last year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 If it said "They'll trade Mark Jindrak to Raw and have him win the title" then I'd be suspicious (I read something similar to this last year). Yeah I remember that. the rumor was Eddie Vs Jindrak for the WWE title at Summerslam. How this rumor made the dirtsheets I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I remember reading about Jindrak jumping to RAW to join Evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Kane vs Benoit Edge vs HBK I guess I was right... Kane vs Edge in the finals with Lita turning on Kane and helping Edge win. Then, I forgot who said it, but Edge could take the #1 contender shot vs Batista, bust Batista over the head with a chair repeatedly and knock him out and get DQed, then use his MITB contract immediately and win the title. That would be hillarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I think I came up with that yesterday (or right after RAW), but I doubt WWE would do something that made sense, because that's the only logical explanation of wanting 2 guarente title shots (especially when 1 can be used whenever they want). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I actually think that idea is great, but the question remains...what happens after Edge wins the belt? You pass it back to Batista to job to HHH at the ppv? Makes Batista look really stupid and then weak. Another hilarious secnario can have Edge lose BOTH title shots by being sent to smackdown on draft night after the whole RAW roster helps Batista kick his ass to prevent him taking the title to smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 So putting Lita & Edge together on-air, will naturally lead to one of them cheating on the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted May 5, 2005 When this Edge-Lita thing was pitched as a storyline, did the fact that Lita can't act ever figure into the equation? Why would you want to put her in the middle of another storyline that may require emotion and believability? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Maybe she's fucking Vince McMahon to keep her job. With her reputation, I wouldn't discharge it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Maybe she's fucking Vince McMahon to keep her job. With her reputation, I wouldn't discharge it either. Interesting choice of phrase. I think Edge might be the letterbox between Batista and Triple H. For some reason, I don't see Triple H beating Batista for the belt. I think it'll turn out like it did last year, when the World belt went from Benoit to Orton to Triple H, except it'll be intended this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 5, 2005 It was the only word that came to mind... I could've just use "argue." Speaking of a possible switch from Batista-Edge-Triple H, when would the first switch happen? If the rumor of Batista/Trips III being at Vengeance is to happen, that means there will either be zero or two title changes inside of 7 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I don't know when the first switch would happen, or even if it would happen at all. I just have this feeling that Triple H won't get the belt back from Batista, and they'll save his first win over Batista for a later date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I meant in a "if you were booking" type way. For the first time in a while I have no idea where WWE is going with the World Title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I guess they could have Edge insert himself into the HIAC match via his MITB contract, surprise people by having him beat Triple H for the belt (so that Batista's first big singles loss is handed to him by Triple H), and have Batista get the belt back some time after, possibly at Summerslam, before finally dropping it back to Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites