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Abdul Jabbar's total points scored. Karl Malone is number two on the list, he played most of his career at a high level and he still did not come even close to touching this one. Also, with the East teams being defense oriented these days and scoring gone way done, and the advent of the lower percentage 3 pointer, players are scoring less, most of them at least. So the opportunities to average enough points/season and the fact that Kareem played for 20+ seasons, I don't see any players who will do this. Heck, Shaq is the most dominate player of this era and he is not even close.

 

I actually disagree with this one. With the advent of players coming to the NBA straight out high school, it's a lot easier to log the number of seasons necessary to get to that number of points. The fact that a mediocre player like Malone can make it all the way to second is just more evidence that it can be done.

 

I'd say that if LeBron James stays healthy throughout his career and doesn't get bored and go play baseball or something, he could easily get there. By the time he gets to his fifth season (the time Kareem came out of school), he'll certainly be averaging more a season than Abdul-Jabbar was in his rookie campaign, and he'll have a huge head start as well.

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John Stockton's assist record will stand for a long time, especially since pass first PGs seem to be a dying breed. Also his games played with the same team, due to him being fairly unstoppable (only missed 22 games during his whole career) and being insanely loyal to the Jazz.

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Joe DiMaggio's hit streak will probably never be broken. When he did this, pitching strategies were different and the reliance on a solid bullpen/closer was not as utilized as it is today. Also, pitchers used to be left in games for more innings, so a great hitter like DiMaggio had better opportunities to figure out the pitches and hit them.

 

Well, the next best streak is 44, set by Wee Willie Keeler in the 1890s, and Pete Rose in the 1970s. The era has little to do with it. Dimaggio's streak is a freak occurance. It is so outside the curve of baseball performance that it is completely unexplanable by mere statistics.

 

The fact that a mediocre player like Malone can make it all the way to second is just more evidence that it can be done.

 

Malone was mediocre?

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Whoever has the record for longest tenure with one team. Guys like Reggie Miller, Dan Marino and Cal Ripken don't come along anymore. I think the only person who might stick around with the same team for 15-plus seasons is Derek Jeter.

This is John Smoltz's 16th season with the Atlanta Braves.

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Bagwell & Biggio have played their entire careers in Houston.

I thought Bagwell used to play for the Red Sox?

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Malone was mediocre?

He had one MVP award which he didn't deserve. He never won a ring. He was always a borderline elite player, rather than a truly great one, even in his own time. Sure he was a star in Utah, but over the scope of the existence of the NBA, he's nowhere close to being the second greatest scorer of all time.

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I thought Bagwell used to play for the Red Sox?

 

He was in their farm system, merely a AA prospect when he was traded. He never played for the big club.

 

He had one MVP award which he didn't deserve. He never won a ring. He was always a borderline elite player, rather than a truly great one, even in his own time. Sure he was a star in Utah, but over the scope of the existence of the NBA, he's nowhere close to being the second greatest scorer of all time.

 

In terms of abilty, no. But all those other players did not score as many points as Malone did. Which leads me to believe the record is not so easy to achieve. Malone wasn't the greatest player, but he was one of the most durable players in NBA history.

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Malone was mediocre?

He had one MVP award which he didn't deserve. He never won a ring. He was always a borderline elite player, rather than a truly great one, even in his own time. Sure he was a star in Utah, but over the scope of the existence of the NBA, he's nowhere close to being the second greatest scorer of all time.

Truly great? Definitely.

 

Elite? Perhaps.

 

Second greatest scorer of all time, even if it is statistcially true? No freakin way.

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Malone was mediocre?

He had one MVP award which he didn't deserve. He never won a ring. He was always a borderline elite player, rather than a truly great one, even in his own time. Sure he was a star in Utah, but over the scope of the existence of the NBA, he's nowhere close to being the second greatest scorer of all time.

Truly great? Definitely.

 

Elite? Perhaps.

 

Second greatest scorer of all time, even if it is statistcially true? No freakin way.

Well, it depends on how you evaluate things. Is the simple count of points scored an indicator of who is the greatest scorer? I doubt it. We're not talking about how great Malone is. We're talking about how likely someone is to break the points record. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar holds the record with 38,387, and it took him 20 years to reach it. Malone missed it by just over a thousand, playing for 19 years at what we can at least agree was an All-Star level. Number three is Jordan, and he missed the record by 6,000.

 

Jordan, Magic, Bird, Chamberlain, Erving, Oscar Robertson, Reggie Miller, and many many others. All these players, the greatest scorers in NBA history, have yet to come close to the award. Regardless of Malone's status, the award is Kareem's, and it is going to be difficult to break.

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Wilt Chamberlin career field goal percentage of .727

 

George Hainsworth 22 shutouts in a single season.

 

and not sure about this but Sandy Koufax recorded 4 no-hitters in four years, correct?

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I doubt anyone will ever win a Major by 15 shots like Tiger did at the 2000 US Open.

Tiger's win by 15 shots at Pebble Beach in the 2000 US Open actually isn't the record for winning margin in a major championship. The 1862 British Open I believe was won by 18 shots and I'm sure that record isn't coming down anytime soon.

He won by 13 shots. Woods 15 shot margin is the Major record.

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Most consecutive complete games by a goaltender - 502, by Glenn Hall from 1955-56 to 1962-63, and he started 503 consecutive games but was removed in the 1st period of that game with a back injury. The last goalie ever to appear in every game in a season was Ed Johnston with Boston in 1963-64 (70 games). I think it's safe to say that record will never be broken.

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I doubt anyone will ever win a Major by 15 shots like Tiger did at the 2000 US Open.

Tiger's win by 15 shots at Pebble Beach in the 2000 US Open actually isn't the record for winning margin in a major championship. The 1862 British Open I believe was won by 18 shots and I'm sure that record isn't coming down anytime soon.

He won by 13 shots. Woods 15 shot margin is the Major record.

Explain to me how the Open Championship is not a major.

 

George Hainsworth 22 shutouts in a single season.

 

He wins.

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Whoever has the record for longest tenure with one team. Guys like Reggie Miller, Dan Marino and Cal Ripken don't come along anymore. I think the only person who might stick around with the same team for 15-plus seasons is Derek Jeter.

This is John Smoltz's 16th season with the Atlanta Braves.

To be fair, Smoltz started in the Tigers chain, never made it to the majors, but was traded in a "prospect for aging veteran" deadline deal for Doyle Alexander

 

Steve

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I would actually say that it seems like SBs are going back up with guys like Posednik and Crawford are running a lot..but 130 is pretty much untouchable.

 

Another:

 

I dont think anyone will ever hit 5 HR in 1 game. I know Mike Cameron came really close a couple years ago, but just the fact that its not really that easy to get 5 ABs in a game makes it seem not very possible.

Have to qualify it as a nine-inning game though

 

I can see a 5hr night in an extra inning game though

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To be fair, Smoltz started in the Tigers chain, never made it to the majors, but was traded in a "prospect for aging veteran" deadline deal for Doyle Alexander

 

I think the spirit of the accomplishment holds. Players at that age have no control over their destiny. We want to think players are loyal. A traded prospect does not cross that line in any manner.

 

Phil Niekro being the last guy to win and lose 20 in the same year

 

Damned impossible to emass 40 decisions in a year anymore so Knuksie's "accomplishment" seems pretty safe

 

At the age of 40 no less. Just goes to show how long knuckleballers can last. What I find interesting is only three of Niekro's games ended with a no decision.

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How about John Stockton's all-time assist record? I haven't seen anyone come into the League averaging 10 dimes per game like Stockton did early in his career.

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How about John Stockton's all-time assist record? I haven't seen anyone come into the League averaging 10 dimes per game like Stockton did early in his career.

I'd put that in the "difficult but possible" category.

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