Ripper 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2005 I disagree with the expecting more out of Harrington thing. He was a consistant scorer, rebounder and at the end of the year, playmaker for them. They would be stupid if they expected more than the 18 and 8 harrington averaged for the year, and I KNOW they don't think they are going to get those numbers out of Marvin Williams. Its all about hype. Now they have a flashy team with Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, and Salim Stoudimire out on the floor, and they want to get rid of there least spectacular player (who happens to also be the best player). They are going to enter next year with 7 players with 3 years of less experience in the NBA. Al harrington is the odd man out in this youth movement...which is strange for a 25 year old to be the old guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2005 The Pistons exercised the option on Darko's contract for the 06-07 season. Not sure what this means to a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2005 The Pistons exercised the option on Darko's contract for the 06-07 season. Not sure what this means to a trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Neither here or there. It could've been a request by the Hawks to exercise the option to agree to the trade, since he would've been a free agent at the end of the year. EDIT: I'm pretty sure the team options don't carry over to the next team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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alfdogg 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...marc&id=2120105 Interesting...JJ has apparently ASKED the Suns not to match his offer sheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Scott Padgett to Phoenix Link~ Ryan Bowen to re-up with Houston Link~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2005 Looks like the Collective Bargaining Agreement is now a done deal. Cap set at $49.5 million, with the Luxury Tax threshold at $61.7 million. Other signings i can't be bothered linking, Juan Dixon to Portland, and Damon Stoudamire to the Memphis Grizzlies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Actually Stoudamire is now saying that there's no deal, and that he hasn't even talked to Memphis. He's also saying that Houston is his first choice, but that Portland "is blocking everything" (I'm going to assume he means a sign and trade). I don't know, the little guy is a playmaker and all but I feel uncomfortable paying him what would most likely be a large sum of money. Don't know why, I just do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Do the words "Metal Detector, Pot, Tin Foil" have anything to do with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Do the words "Metal Detector, Pot, Tin Foil" have anything to do with it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quite a bit actually. I was trying to be circumspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 As previously mentioned, the CBA was *finally* ratified Saturday, and the signings will start on Tuesday. The deadline for the amnesty clause waivers is August 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 Dumars wont bail on Darko until he's had at least one year (or a good portion of a year) without Larry Brown. If we're nearing the trade deadline and Darko hasn't been able to contribute in any halfway significant way, then maybe he'll pull the trigger but not before imo. Before the trade rumors made their way nationwide, I had heard from various local sources n shit that it was Atlanta who proposed the trade and Det turned it down. Smells to me more like a "if larry brown stays" trade which broke down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 From Marc Stein of ESPN.com Joe Johnson is reportedly going to the Hawks in a sign and trade Suns get Boris Diaw, two lottery protected first round picks and a $5 million dollar trade exception Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 Um, well...if this does go down, at least they're getting something back for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 One of the draft picks aren't lottery protected i don't think... But oh well. Boris Diaw, while a great passer and rebounder and defender...I don't see him getting much playing time in phoenix. He can be the back up Small forward, or Point guard if they are so inclined. Raja Bell moves into the starting lineup now, but the Suns will probably make a HARD push for Michael Finley if the Mavs waive him. Joe Johnson wanted to be the number one guy, so now he has that chance. he is a very good player and I think you are going to see monster numbers from him (I am predicting 25, 5 and 5 personally) but I think he will regret leaving a title contender for the Atlanta Hawks. Well...he got traded from one team I love to the other team I like a whole lot....and I still can't stand his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 There is now a rumor that the Heat may deal Eddie Jones to the Grizz for PG Jason Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 The addition of Posey is more positive than Williams. Posey gives you a good all around game and is athletic. Williams, while he does have flashes, doesn't have that winning intangible that I like to see from guys like Nash or Bibby, especially from the PG spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 You guys haven't seen Jason Williams play in a few years outside of their horrid mismatches in the playoffs. The guy is legitimately one of the top 5 point guards in the league. Williams/Wade/Posey/Haslim/Shaq would be a damn good starting lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 It's like a repeat of what happened to Stephen Jackson in San Antonio in 2003. He gets noticed for his sharp shooting during their championship run, gets into it with management and runs off to cash off in Atlanta. That worked out eh? I know that Atlanta has more promise this season then in 03-04, but it...still just reminds me of that situation here. Hope he enjoys the paycheck and being "the man". Tom <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I say that Stephen Jacksons was completely different. Stephen was a free agent that no one wanted. The Spurs offered him something really REALLY low so he went shopping and found out there was no market for him. So he signed a 2 year contract with Atlanta (the second year was a player option) and went on to score 20+ points a night, and earning a damn good contract in his sign and trade with Indiana. Joe Johnson wants to play the point guard in the NBA and he told Suns ownership to not match the Atlanta offer so he could get that chance. Plus there are all these stories about him not liking all the attention Nash, Marion, and Stoudimire get and he gets left in the cold. Honestly, as much as the Suns needed him to win this year, he is still just showing he is the same bitch he was back when I was talking about how much of a bitch Joe Johnson is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I thought the deal with Jackson was he ended up getting less money with the Hawks than he would have with the Spurs because his agent fucked him over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 I actually think it was less, but his agent knew what he was doing. He could have signed a longer, low dollar deal with San Antonio, or he could go and display his skills and get a big money deal. Where else to go to display your skills besides Atlanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 You guys haven't seen Jason Williams play in a few years outside of their horrid mismatches in the playoffs. The guy is legitimately one of the top 5 point guards in the league. Williams/Wade/Posey/Haslim/Shaq would be a damn good starting lineup. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, I have seen Jason Williams play (I have the League Pass) and I don't think he's great. Good, but not great. On top of that, he's not very mature, even now that he's a vet. Witness last year's lockeroom blow up on a reporter after they were eliminated. Now I know it's a sensitive time and I can understand frustration, but it's not the first of many dumb things he's said or done. I just am not sure if he's a good fit for the Heat. I wouldn't put him in my top 5 point guards in the league, maybe top 10, but no way he's better than.. Steve Nash Mike Bibby Stephon Marbury Baron Davis Jason Kidd Chauncey Billups I'd put him somewhere between Andre Miller and Tony Parker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 That blow up at the reporter was justified in my eyes, becaue the guy basically just printed some bullshit about him. Something where he took the quote and said that it was proof that Jason Williams doesn't care about his team and basketball. Then had the nerve to walk his ass in the locker room after playoff elimination, and after the game. Fuck him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 That blow up at the reporter was justified in my eyes, becaue the guy basically just printed some bullshit about him. Something where he took the quote and said that it was proof that Jason Williams doesn't care about his team and basketball. Then had the nerve to walk his ass in the locker room after playoff elimination, and after the game. Fuck him <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The reporter took Williams' quote to him of context, then printed that Williams just wanted to throw the elimination game, just so he could go home quicker. Taking THAT of context is a pretty big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 It appears that the Heat are looking into getting Antione Walker in a sign and trade, and them getting Williams seems though it is going to go through. So the MAYBE starting lineup for the heat next year: Jason Williams Dwayne Wade Antoine Walker Udonis Haslim Shaq Still, that is impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 If the Heat land both J-Will and Walker, I think Stan Van Jeremy err.. Gundy is out cause I think Riles is building the team HE wants to coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 Reports are that Jon Barry has agreed to terms with the Rockets. Love the guy when he's on our team. Most guys I'd attempt homicide on for pulling up and shooting a 3 on a fast break, but he does it about as well as anyone I've seen. Plus he busts his ass every time he's out on the court. Now resign Deke, maybe pick up a point if they feel they have to and the team is set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2005 So Shaq just signed a 5 year $100 million extension. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2122716 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
