bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 1 N Batman Begins WB $46,935,000 2 1 Mr. and Mrs. Smith Fox $27,300,000 -45.8% 3 2 Madagascar DW $11,100,000 -35.4% 3 4 3 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $9,700,000 -34.7% 2 5 4 The Longest Yard Par. $8,000,000 -42.4% 6 5 The Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl (3D) Dim. $6,633,000 -47.3% 7 N The Perfect Man Uni. $5,478,000 8 6 Cinderella Man Uni. $5,233,000 -46.2% 9 7 The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants WB $3,170,000 -44.5% 10 8 The Honeymooners Par. $2,570,000 -53.6% 11 11 Crash Lions $1,250,000 -33.4% 12 9 Monster-in-Law NL $1,125,000 -57.1% Wow. Perfect Man did terribly. Not really anyone I can blame for that one, but it's clear making Material Girls is going to be the final nail in the coffin of her movie career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 But isnt The Perfect Man , The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants , Monster-in-Law going after the same audience? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Or ever better, who gives a rats ass about Hilary Duff's "movie career" when there's stuff like BATMAN out there... DUH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Monster in Law was more of a date movie. Sisterhood and Perfect Man were going after the same audience, but I don't think Sisterhood hurt TPM that much. Hilary really needs to hook up with a good director now. Mark Rosman was pretty terrible at directing TPM and MacNamara's direction was my only complaint about RYV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Or ever better, who gives a rats ass about Hilary Duff's "movie career" when there's stuff like BATMAN out there... DUH! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Batman didn't do as well as people hoped either. And I will care about her movie career, and I think it sucks she had another box office flop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Or ever better, who gives a rats ass about Hilary Duff's "movie career" when there's stuff like BATMAN out there... DUH! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I concur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 If you want to talk about Batman well...go ahead. No one is stopping you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Maybe she needs to do something other than play a bubbly little blonde girl dealing with the absurdly easy trial's of every day life? Thought BB would do better, talked to a shitload of people who went and they all loved it, figured word of mouth would make for a bigger weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Maybe she needs to do something other than play a bubbly little blonde girl dealing with the absurdly easy trial's of every day life? The funny thing about TPM is that in this one, her mom clearly has some pretty bad mental issues, but the movie never really feels like addressing that. Her Jewish boyfriend in the movie was pretty pimp though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 I think Batman Begins will rise slowly in the box. Just the opinion of a fanboy though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Begins for it's five day is around 75mill. It's not Spider-Man or Episode III money, but it's a respectable box office. I figured Perfect Man would do better. It looked like a decent movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Maybe she needs to do something other than play a bubbly little blonde girl dealing with the absurdly easy trial's of every day life? Thought BB would do better, talked to a shitload of people who went and they all loved it, figured word of mouth would make for a bigger weekend. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It probaly will. Make more money that is. as from what I've seen its got nothing but good reviews. And a lot of my friends I know, are going to see it for a second time when I go see it, so evidently it really was good. Plus, I know a lot of colleges (at least here in NC) had their first orientations this weekend, and a lot of the 'highschool senior audience' might not have been able to see it. (I know the orientation I went to had a shitload of people, so I could see it actually taking a big dent from that..) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Wow, Bob. You didn't jump off of a roof somewhere yet? I'm proud of you for taking this so well. I guess it's safe to say... Regardless of what she currently looks like, Lindsay Lohan > Hillary Duff. That new Herbie movie is going to be successful no matter how bad it looks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 So the movies that were meant for the Olsen twins are now going to the Duff sisters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 I was about to say...who gives two shits about Hilary Duff having a flop? Hardly something to frame the box office report around. The Batman numbers being sorta eh isn't that shocking. There isn't really a huge buzz among the mainstream filmgoers about yet another Batman movie. Add to it the trailer doesn't really clearly explain what villain is in the film and what it's all about and it's easy to see these numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Wow, Bob. You didn't jump off of a roof somewhere yet? I'm proud of you for taking this so well. I guess it's safe to say... Regardless of what she currently looks like, Lindsay Lohan > Hilary Duff. I plan on easing the pain by seeing Perfect Man again this week. There's one scene that Ebert really didn't like that I think he may have gotten wrong and I want to see it just to see who was right. Plus Hilary has some great lines in the movie. So the movies that were meant for the Olsen twins are now going to the Duff sisters? Actually, LL's newest movie (post-Herbie) sounds like Material Girls. who gives two shits about Hilary Duff having a flop? Hardly something to frame the box office report around. I do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Seeing commercials for "Perfect Man" immediately made me think of the movie "Mermaids" except with a more trendy and less talented cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 19, 2005 I haven't even seen a commercial for The Perfect Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 I saw a few commercials during What I Like About You, and I saw the ads at the website. JMA, you probably don't watch the stuff that appeals to the demographic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 it boggles my mind as to why these teen starlets always play the same kinda roles. here's an idea. ACT for once. Play an asshole. Play a slut. Play a seriel killer who eats peoples skin. lobby for a part in an intelligent action movie. kirsten dunst and katie holmes and claire danes' agents should all get bonuses for getting them into batman, spider-man and T3 (the latter less so). scarlett johanson is 20 years old and look at the parts she takes on. I am curious, do the duffs, lohans, and titney spears and all the rest, do they just not get offered 'different' roles at all, or are their agnets just determined to fit them into the one demographic regardless of whether their movies success or flop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 it boggles my mind as to why these teen starlets always play the same kinda roles. They don't want to alienate their young fanbases. here's an idea. ACT for once. Play an asshole. Play a slut. Lindsay did in Mean Girls and Hilary did really well in Raise Your Voice. kirsten dunst and katie holmes and claire danes' agents should all get bonuses for getting them into batman, spider-man and T3 (the latter less so). They were all much older then 17 and 18 when they took those roles. scarlett johanson is 20 years old and look at the parts she takes on. But Scarlett Johanson is really terrible. Plus she looks a lot older then she really is. I am curious, do the duffs, lohans, and titney spears and all the rest, do they just not get offered 'different' roles at all, or are their agnets just determined to fit them into the one demographic regardless of whether their movies success or flop? Well part of it is typecasting. No one really wants to cast Hilary or Lindsay in some serious drama because they don't think anyone will go see it, and they think it will just be another way for the critics to mock them. Hilary's movie Outward Blonde was rumoured to be somewhat against type but that seems to have gotten pushed to the back burner behind her touring, Cheaper 2 and Material Girls. I really hope she does another movie like RYV, but with a better director. A movie like Sisterhood where she was part of an ensemble would be a really good move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 That shit about Johannson being terrible is a load of bunk, just so we're clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 19, 2005 That shit about Johannson being terrible is a load of bunk, just so we're clear. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 I've never liked her in anything I've seen. In both Lost in Translation and In Good Company, I found her to be more annoying then anything else, and she just gets on my nerves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 i should point out that regarding the point I was making, ones opinion of her acting is irrelevant actually. Even if you think she's just awful and annoying, there is a very clear difference in the KIND OF ROLES an actress like her or natalie portman (sans star wars), or other young actress who is considered a 'serious actress' and the teenybopper starlets. Parts like the ones in say Lost in Translation, Girl with the Pearl Earring, The Island, etc. Hell i thought pearl earring was incredibly boring and island isn't even out yet, even if she sucks complete ass in it, my point remians. Look at those roles and then look at the kind of roles that the teen starlets take. There is a very clear deliniation, as it regards to the kind of roles they are. i dont want to go so far as to say adult roles... perhaps 'mature' is the right word, in the most non-porno-way-possible. and no, Mean Girls (despite the fact that I actually really like the movie), isn't the kind of role i'm talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Parts like the ones in say Lost in Translation, Girl with the Pearl Earring, The Island, etc. Hell i thought pearl earring was incredibly boring and island isn't even out yet, even if she sucks complete ass in it, my point remians. Look at those roles and then look at the kind of roles that the teen starlets take. There is a very clear deliniation, as it regards to the kind of roles they are. i dont want to go so far as to say adult roles... perhaps 'mature' is the right word, in the most non-porno-way-possible. I agree with you that Johansen does more mature work. Part of it is that she looks much older then she is. I was shocked when I found out I was older her. Plus Johansen never had a big fanbase growing up like Duff or Lohan, so she can be a lot more choosier in which roles she takes. She also probably gets offered less commercially viable but more critically viable material for the same reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 it boggles my mind as to why these teen starlets always play the same kinda roles. here's an idea. ACT for once. Play an asshole. Play a slut. Play a seriel killer who eats peoples skin. Mandy Moore is pretty much the only one of the pop stars who consistently takes a wide variety of roles. I want that skin-eating serial killer movie with her, though. *checks Rottentomatoes* Wow, critics not being kind to TPM at all.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Word of Mouth just hasn't really kicked in for BATMAN BEGINS yet. It'll profit a sequel, I think. After this weekend though, I think the repeats (I've seen it 3 times, and Star Wars only once so that says something to me) and the word of mouth will bring in some serious bank for Batman. As for TPM, I'm not totally surprised. With Sisterhood competing for the demographic, I'm not all that surprised at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2005 as long as there isn't a gigantic 65% drop-off next weekend, i think we're safe for a sequel. Its still a pretty big hit so far, even though may not be as big as they hoped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2005 i should point out that regarding the point I was making, ones opinion of her acting is irrelevant actually. Even if you think she's just awful and annoying, there is a very clear difference in the KIND OF ROLES an actress like her or natalie portman (sans star wars), or other young actress who is considered a 'serious actress' and the teenybopper starlets. Parts like the ones in say Lost in Translation, Girl with the Pearl Earring, The Island, etc. Hell i thought pearl earring was incredibly boring and island isn't even out yet, even if she sucks complete ass in it, my point remians. Look at those roles and then look at the kind of roles that the teen starlets take. There is a very clear deliniation, as it regards to the kind of roles they are. i dont want to go so far as to say adult roles... perhaps 'mature' is the right word, in the most non-porno-way-possible. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not that I really back either side of this arguement..but bob pretty much made it clear when he said "Well part of it is typecasting." You said look at the roles these starlets are taking..well, more then likely that's because they're the only roles they're getting. For example, can you honestly picture Lindsay Lohan in Lost in Translation? I'm sure you can't, and I'm sure the directors couldn't either, so I'm sure there's no chance in hell they would offer her the role. So it may not be so much as not taking the roles...as not being offered any other roles. And in the cases of Lohan/Duff, they're "Disney products". What other kind of movies are Disney going to make? So unless they're doing a voice or something for a movie like the Incredibles, don't expect them in action movies..and dont expect the 'dramas' to be anything different from A Cinderella Story and other movies of that nature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites