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it boggles my mind as to why these teen starlets always play the same kinda roles.

They don't want to alienate their young fanbases.

Do the 13 year olds stare at you in the theater?

 

"Hey, is that that boy from social studies class?"

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BB isn't going off the charts because John Q. Moviegoer is still VERY skeptical about a new Batman movie, and you can't blame him one bit. From the trailers and things, I'm afraid the movie might drag a bit, but I might catch it this week sometime.

 

Disney should really keep these Duff films to "Direct to DVD" jobs, because just looking at the ads screams "Disney Channel Exclusive".

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Hilary split with Disney two years ago. She's only associated with them via her music, which is on the Hollywood Records label, an off-shoot of Disney.

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it boggles my mind as to why these teen starlets always play the same kinda roles.

They don't want to alienate their young fanbases.

Do the 13 year olds stare at you in the theater?

 

"Hey, is that that boy from social studies class?"

 

Her last two movies, I went on Friday morning at 11 for the first show there was really no one there. Also, the movies made no money, so no one was ever there to begin with.

 

At RYV it was me, my friend, two little girls, their mom, and a creepy old man.

 

At TPM it was me, my friend, two women together, a woman in the back and I think someone else. I liked that no one was there, because me and my friend got to do our own running commentary.

 

And in the cases of Lohan/Duff, they're "Disney products". What other kind of movies are Disney going to make? So unless they're doing a voice or something for a movie like the Incredibles, don't expect them in action movies..and dont expect the 'dramas' to be anything different from A Cinderella Story and other movies of that nature.

 

Hilary doesn't make movies with Disney anymore but I see your point. What pisses me off about Rosman is that he acted like TPM would be all dark and not like a Hilary movie. While it wasn't as light and fluffy as ACS, he pretty much was full of shit.

 

Raise Your Voice to an extent was Hilary showing off her range and her acting ability but New Line didn't really know what to do it and marketed it as a typical Hilary fluff picture when it was just the opposite. The DVD box fails to mention that much of the movie is sad and depressing. I think had the movie had a better director, some of the scenes at the end (especially the one with her and her father) wouldn't have seem so cliched and played.

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I liked that no one was there, because me and my friend got to do our own running commentary.

Bob Barron does MST3K commentary for Duff movies?

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When she utters a classic line like:

 

"Try something different?? Eating a peanut butter and glue sandwich is something different!"

 

you kinda have to

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You know, I'll go see a Hillary Duff or Lindsay Lohan movie if it looks interesting (Mean Girls, Freaky Friday) but I'd be God damned if I raced to the theater to see a movie just cause a certian person is in it, let alone Hillary fucking Duff, and then adamantly defend her on a message board.

 

I saw the Lizzie McGuire already. Hence I've seen all of her movies since by watching that one movie. When she actually exercises her acting and takes on real roles, possibly shows her tits on screen, maybe I'll see something shes in. Until then, why the hell do we need to discuss her for two pages in the weekend box office report?

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I saw the Lizzie McGuire already. Hence I've seen all of her movies since by watching that one movie.

 

That's probably the worst of her 4 starring roles, since there's way too many plot holes and things that are really hard to accept. It's still a fun movie, and I love the ending and Alex Bornstein as the teacher. And Gordo and Ethan are awesome as always.

 

A Cinderella Story, Perfect Man and Raise Your Voice are much better.

 

And even though the ending and the scene with her father is cliche, at least in RYV she tried to branch out.

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BB isn't going off the charts because John Q. Moviegoer is still VERY skeptical about a new Batman movie, and you can't blame him one bit. From the trailers and things, I'm afraid the movie might drag a bit, but I might catch it this week sometime.

 

Catwoman in particular is still fresh in people's minds. I think it really made an impact on the gross you see here.

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BB isn't going off the charts because John Q. Moviegoer is still VERY skeptical about a new Batman movie, and you can't blame him one bit.  From the trailers and things, I'm afraid the movie might drag a bit, but I might catch it this week sometime.

That's my perception of things. It certainly doesn't help that the hype it's getting from my friends (online and real) is too similar to Spiderman a couple years ago.

 

"OMG OMG you have to see Spiderman d00d OMG *wank wank wank splooge*"

 

So I saw it and it was allright, but not that great. Casting one of my least favorite big name actresses as the main woman, as well as some of the liberties with the original comic (I don't consider myself elitist, but certain things changing just didn't work for me) didn't help either.

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BB isn't going off the charts because John Q. Moviegoer is still VERY skeptical about a new Batman movie, and you can't blame him one bit.  From the trailers and things, I'm afraid the movie might drag a bit, but I might catch it this week sometime.

That's my perception of things. It certainly doesn't help that the hype it's getting from my friends (online and real) is too similar to Spiderman a couple years ago.

 

"OMG OMG you have to see Spiderman d00d OMG *wank wank wank splooge*"

 

So I saw it and it was allright, but not that great. Casting one of my least favorite big name actresses as the main woman, as well as some of the liberties with the original comic (I don't consider myself elitist, but certain things changing just didn't work for me) didn't help either.

 

 

your last paragraph, is that your take on Spiderman or Batman?

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Spiderman.

 

Haven't seen BB, not sure when (or if). The previews have done nothing in terms of exciting me to go see the movie (putting me in a distinct minority, I know)

 

One comment someone else said earlier that rings similar to how I feel (albeit just based off the previews) is that I adhere to the "classic" vision of Alfred, and so when I see Michael Caine, I think "it's Michael Caine as Alfred" rather than "it's Alfred"

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i'm with you, I think Michael Gough (that's his name, correct?) fit perfectly how I imagine Alfred to be...Michael Caine's turn as Austin Power's father kinda ruins it for me, anymore...

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Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20

Since Hillary Duff is the big topic...

 

HBO and all 5 of it's other channels have FORCED me to like "A Cinderella Story." They play this movie so damn much that it has become a guilty pleasure.

 

I think i'll go find a river to jump in now.

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I've seen Cheaper by the Dozen about 45 times on HBO or Cinemax. No matter what part of the movie it is, I'll sit and watch the whole way through.

 

I went from thinking it was just okay, to really enjoying it.

 

And A Cinderella Story is pretty awesome, even if the middle 20-30 minutes, where she won't tell Austin and he's too stupid to put 2 and 2 together, gets old fast.

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Haven't seen BB, not sure when (or if). The previews have done nothing in terms of exciting me to go see the movie (putting me in a distinct minority, I know)

 

You are absolutely right. I didn't see anything special from the advertising campaign at all, certainly not at the level of Spider-Man or even X-Men.

 

But I am hyped up for the film (I will probably see it early this week) and it is soley based on the backs of the reviews which are extremely favourable. It wasn't until Ebert & Roeper reviewed the film a couple of weeks ago and both said that it was easily the best of the Batmans that I really got the feeling that I had to see this film in theatres.

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I went and saw Batman Begins on Saturday night, not expecting all that much going in. I gotta say that it was probably my favorite Superhero style action flick by far. The movie was superb. Everyone who was in it really did a good job, which is rare for an action movie. You usually either get good acting or good action, but this had both. I really recommend that everyone see it.

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Batman Begins simply did not have a good trailer. It just didn't. Every time I saw it I got the feeling "I'll probably go see it, but I'm not sure exactly what it's all about. But hey, it's Batman." If you recall it starts by showing Bruce Wayne going up a mountain, then Liam Neeson is talking a bit, stuff happens, etc. It isn't until about 30 seconds goes by that you realize it's even Batman. We see none of the notable stuff in the film really, don't know who the villain is in the film, and so on.

 

That was my comment on the Batman thread about Alfred, Slayer. Alfred is a role that requires a character actor type, not a major name like Caine. It might be a bizarre criticism but Caine is too cockney to ever be an upper class English butler type. Not that he was bad, but I think Gough was the definitive Alfred.

 

Compare this to the Spidey trailers. We see notable action in the film, we see plenty of Spidey/Goblin or Ock fights, we have a decent idea what is going on. I don't think Batman Begins has a clear cut marketable villain or hook, and that's why it isn't making quite as much as some thought it would.

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Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20

The WB's marketing campeign for Batman & Robin was name value.

 

They knew they had nothing else to work with, so they pimped the hell out of Clooney, Arnold, Silverstone, Uma, etc.

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NEWSFLASH: "Batman Begins" made $73 million in just 5 days.

 

Anyone who tries to say its doing poor business needs to learn how to count.

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It isn't poor business by any means....it's just not on par with some other stuff, that's all.

 

I'm not saying they needed to focus a huge amount on the villains, but a trailer showing a bit of who they are would have been good.

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NEWSFLASH: "Batman Begins" made $73 million in just 5 days.

 

Anyone who tries to say its doing poor business needs to learn how to count.

 

NEWSFLASH: Compare Batman Begins to other blockbusters or even other Batman movies. It's not that great.

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It isn't poor business by any means....it's just not on par with some other stuff, that's all.

 

"Not on par with some other stuff"? Huh?

 

That's more money that 90% of the movies released make in their entire theatrical run.

 

NEWSFLASH: Compare Batman Begins to other blockbusters or even other Batman movies. It's not that great.

 

Ahem...

 

Warner Bros. expects "Batman Begins" to finish its first week with $85 million, compared to a range of $59 million to $77 million for the previous "Batman" movies in their first week.

 

credit: http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/...e.ap/index.html

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Again, if you compare Batman Begins to OTHER blockbusters and the other Batman movies, you will see that the numbers it did are not that great

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It's not up to par with at least the first three Batman movies. According to boxofficemojo.com, most experts expected BB to reach the heighborhood of $100 million on its first 5 days. $73 million is below expectations. The movie cost $150 million, so I'm guessing it's not far of a strech to say it'll make its money back, but movies like X2 and Spider-Man 2 (duh) made way better business this early. Next weekend's dropoff needs to be less than 40-45% for it to have a significant theater life IMO.

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IMDB reported the estimated budget is $135 million, so its already made half its money back in 5 days.

 

Again, if you compare Batman Begins to OTHER blockbusters and the other Batman movies, you will see that the numbers it did are not that great

 

Again...

 

 

 

Warner Bros. expects "Batman Begins" to finish its first week with $85 million, compared to a range of $59 million to $77 million for the previous "Batman" movies in their first week.

 

credit: http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/...e.ap/index.html

 

I'd really love to see some examples of what these "OTHER" movies you keep referring to are (besides, of course, Revenge of the Sith).

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Okay-

 

Batman and Robin made 42 million

Batman Forever made 52 million

Batman Returns made 47 million

Batman did 42 million.

Batman Begins did 48 million.

 

Now, that's why it's disappointment.

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