WWE News and Notes

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Yeah, for lack of anything better to do with my money, I signed up for a months subscription to PWI Elite, here's the highlights of todays audio update

 

Triple H has been off TV because creative feels he's becoming over exposed, he probobly won't be back in any significant role untill after Summerslam where he'll likely work with Cena. It's also possible that he may take time off to film another movie

 

Summerslam is building up to be Edge vs Cena

 

During the run through before RAW, The Coach, who is a legit athlete, ended up going through the obstacle course in like 18 seconds. Vince said not to do this, and to start bumbling around. The "wardrobe malfunction" was a work made obvious by the fact that Hebner conveniently had the towel ready to cover her up.

 

The whole bWo deal on Smackdown was done mostly out of an attempt to throw shit at the wall and just see what sticks. WWE took notice of the pop they got at ONS, and decided to capitalize on the heat between JBL and Blue Meanie, who was signed to a short term contract for only a couple of months. If the angle works, well then good, if not, then it's not a big loss. Meanie was also brought in to attempt to avoid a potential lawsuit, which probobly wouldn't have happened anyways. JBL and Meanie were said to have met backstage at the show last night and didn't quite settle their differences, but agreed to disagree for the sake of making money together. JBL also took great effort to protect Meanie in their match. The Simon Dean character is also probobly dead due to the bWo angle.

 

Danny Doring and Big Guido are both working in OVW right now, Guido will likely appear as a bodyguard for Hassan and Daivari when he gets called up to the main roster.

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Shit, can someone move this to the WWE board

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Nice one

 

Good to see Doring working in OVW.

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Thanks for the news. Always wanted someone to post the PWI Elite update because it always looks newsworthy.

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Summerslam is building up to be Edge vs Cena

So, I guess that means Cena/Jericho gets the shaft by being blown off on free TV. Blah.

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Cena/Edge

 

OR

 

Cena/Jericho

 

 

You'd have to be a complete moron not to know for a FACT that Cena/Jericho is the way to really go.

 

Therefore, we'll get Cena/Edge.

 

I wish Edge would just get cut.

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That's too bad. I thought the Cena/Jericho really had potential. I like Edge, but currently he's stuck in the Kane/Lita angle and jobbing too much while Jericho and Cena look to have a heated feud going. Edge should wait.

 

Another problem with this is that it's lose/lose with the MITB situation. Edge pretty much has to win after being "screwed" so many times, but Cena is the most over guy in the company and taking the belt off him would be a mistake this early.

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Cena/Edge

 

OR

 

Cena/Jericho

 

 

You'd have to be a complete moron not to know for a FACT that Cena/Jericho is the way to really go.

 

Therefore, we'll get Cena/Edge.

 

I wish Edge would just get cut.

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Given that Edge has lots of heel momentum right now and could probably be built up pretty well in a month (just have him kill Kane), I'd take Edge v. Cena over Jericho v. Cena, since everyone just views Jericho as a loser.

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Who knows, maybe it could change.

 

People were saying 7 weeks may be to long to build in the other thread..well hey, now they might not have to..but seriously, it could be a 3 way? How ironic would that be..the 3 way for the IC title last year, with the exception of one man who's now the World Champion, but this time for the WWE Championship. That's a handful.

 

But anyways, I think somehow Jericho will be involved in the WWE title match at Summerslam. Unless they do some kind of injury thing or something before the event, and Jericho's not a SS at all.

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I don't understand what momentum Edge has. Sure he has that damn contract, but what does that matter if he isn't going to use it anytime soon?

 

In my eyes, Lita is the one with momentum, and I agree that sucks. I don't look at it like Edge/Kane, I just see Lita/Kane. Edge is nothing more than a pawn that Lita is using to get back at Kane, at least in my eyes.

 

I'll just never buy Edge as any sort of force in the singles rank.

 

If the Jericho/Cena segment on RAW didn't convince people that THAT is the feud that could truly be hot, then I don't know what will.

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Not to mention that the finish to Edge v Kane at the PPV was a total blowoff finish with Edge getting beaten clean, even with Snitsky trying to help him. If Edge v Cena is the plan for Summerslam, then Edge should have beaten Kane.

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Im guessing that it will be Cena/Jericho/Edge/Kane in some sort of 4-way or tag team match or something....since Batista will presumably headline the show and Hogan-HBK will get top-billing as well.

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How exactly did Edge job CLEAN? Where was Lita when he was getting pinned?

 

I didn't bother to watch the last PPV.

 

I see Edge as someone that they like to tease as going all the way, just for the hell of it, but they don't feel like pulling the trigger on him. He'll go through a period where he looks really strong, then it all just falls apart...and I'm not just talking about the gimmick of him not being able to reach the top.

 

There have been better wrestlers than Edge who never won a world title. I just don't see why he should even be allowed to.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see WWE bring in Hardy to take on Edge at SummerSlam, and went ahead with Cena/Jericho for the same show.

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I don't understand what momentum Edge has. Sure he has that damn contract, but what does that matter if he isn't going to use it anytime soon?

 

Well he was getting tons of heat for the feud with Benoit, then the Matt stuff came, then they did the right thing and paired him with Lita.

 

The Kane feud sucks, but he's making the most out of it.

 

In my eyes, Lita is the one with momentum, and I agree that sucks. I don't look at it like Edge/Kane, I just see Lita/Kane. Edge is nothing more than a pawn that Lita is using to get back at Kane, at least in my eyes.

 

But Edge gets a lot of the heat and can sustain it. Edge v. Kane was mostly punchy-kicky, but I noticed the crowd stayed with it throughout.

 

I'll just never buy Edge as any sort of force in the singles rank.

 

Because you have this blind hate for him.

 

Not to mention that the finish to Edge v Kane at the PPV was a total blowoff finish with Edge getting beaten clean, even with Snitsky trying to help him. If Edge v Cena is the plan for Summerslam, then Edge should have beaten Kane.

 

 

Edge should've gone over at Vengeance, but booking a rematch and having Edge beat the shit out of him could work, maybe they could have Kane do a gig job? And then Edge can say he thinks he's ready for his title shot.

 

How exactly did Edge job CLEAN? Where was Lita when he was getting pinned?

 

I don't remember, I just know Kane had disposed of Snitsky.

 

I see Edge as someone that they like to tease as going all the way, just for the hell of it, but they don't feel like pulling the trigger on him. He'll go through a period where he looks really strong, then it all just falls apart...and I'm not just talking about the gimmick of him not being able to reach the top.

 

Which is a big mistake on their part, as I think Edge has been ready for the top for a while. I liked the angle where he was constantly getting screwed out of the World Title. It elevated him as a heel, and the belt itself.

 

There have been better wrestlers than Edge who never won a world title. I just don't see why he should even be allowed to.

 

That's meaningless, considering Bradshaw had a 9 month reign. Edge gets a lot of heat from the crowd and can work a match. Give him some victories and he'll be taken seriously.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see WWE bring in Hardy to take on Edge at SummerSlam, and went ahead with Cena/Jericho for the same show.

 

The Hardy stuff is starting to lose momentum. If they don't bring him in within 2 weeks...why bother.

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How exactly did Edge job CLEAN? Where was Lita when he was getting pinned?

 

I didn't bother to watch the last PPV.

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At Vengeance. Kane fought off Edge, Snitsky and Lita, Edge speared Snitsky by mistake, and Kane chokeslammed him for the clean pin. A blowoff finish.

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IIRC, in 1998 the Rock lost the Summerslam blowoff ladder match to HHH...and at Survivor Series he won the world title.

 

Its not historically implausible forsomeone to lose the blowoff match (even cleanly) and then move on to a world title program. Im sure there are more examples as well...especially where its the heel moving on to the world title feud.

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IIRC, in 1998 the Rock lost the Summerslam blowoff ladder match to HHH...and at Survivor Series he won the world title.

 

Its not historically implausible forsomeone to lose the blowoff match (even cleanly) and then move on to a world title program. Im sure there are more examples as well...especially where its the heel moving on to the world title feud.

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Rock didn't do a clean pinfall job and then go right into a WWE Title program on very next PPV, the second biggest of the year. He was pushed back up the ladder for a few months before being put into the World Title match. There is a difference. And while it might not be implausible, in WWE land, for a guy to lose a blow off match and then go into a World title program, it doesn't exactly do wonders for the drawing power of said program.

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He lost to Mark Henry the month before.

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He lost to Mark Henry the month before.

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Which wasn't clean. Not that it makes the idea any less stupid.

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What was Rick Rude doing before Summerslam '90?

 

Bob Backlund before Survivor Series 94?

 

Big Show before Survivor Series '99?

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What was Rick Rude doing before Summerslam '90?

 

Bob Backlund before Survivor Series 94?

 

Big Show before Survivor Series '99?

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What was Rick Rude doing before Summerslam '90?

 

Beating Jimmy Snuka clean on the last PPV before Summerslam

 

Bob Backlund before Survivor Series 94?

 

Getting pushed to the moon to get him ready.

 

Big Show before Survivor Series '99?

 

He wasn't even going to get the title until the week of the show,

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Didnt Diesel get PINNED by the Undertaker clean at Wrestlemania 12 and then headline the next ppv against world champ HBK?

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Didnt Diesel get PINNED by the Undertaker clean at Wrestlemania 12 and then headline the next ppv against world champ HBK?

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You mean before doing the clean job on his way out of the promotion as fodder for the guy they were pushing to the moon as their champion?

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HTQ - One day, your internet ego will graduate the tenth grade and you will realize that this is professional wrestling, and heels can lose clean and still be made competitive against faces. Until then, you will continue to naively grasp strong to your bizarro smarked out opinions.

 

Heels usually lose the blowoff because thats what the marks generally want to see. They can still work the world title matches and it can still be believed by the majority of the fanbase.

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HTQ- Edge has been involved with Kane in the past two RAWs. No Blowoff, smart guy.

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Didnt Diesel get PINNED by the Undertaker clean at Wrestlemania 12 and then headline the next ppv against world champ HBK?

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You mean before doing the clean job on his way out of the promotion as fodder for the guy they were pushing to the moon as their champion?

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If he was fodder, why elevate him back up to face the champ? He could have faced a top-level guy who wasn't the champ, a la Vader-Razor the month before.

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HTQ - One day, your internet ego will graduate the tenth grade and you will realize that this is professional wrestling, and heels can lose clean and still be made competitive against faces.  Until then, you will continue to naively grasp strong to your bizarro smarked out opinions.

 

Heels usually lose the blowoff because thats what the marks generally want to see.  They can still work the world title matches and it can still be believed by the majority of the fanbase.

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HTQ - One day, your internet ego will graduate the tenth grade and you will realize that this is professional wrestling, and heels can lose clean and still be made competitive against faces.  Until then, you will continue to naively grasp strong to your bizarro smarked out opinions.

 

Well, I know I feel humbled after that. I want to thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

 

Heels usually lose the blowoff because thats what the marks generally want to see.  They can still work the world title matches and it can still be believed by the majority of the fanbase.

 

Losing the big blowoff clean takes a lot of steam off people. Yes, they can be built up again, but that takes time, and, to make the most money, which is the point of wrestling in case it's escaped you, it usually isn't a good idea to beat the guy clean who is going to headline the next major PPV in a world title match. If Edge isn't headlining Summerslam, then what happened at Vengeance wouldn't have been that bad. But, if Edge is headlining Summerslam, then he should not have done the clean pinfall job. Let Kane get his no-heat back in some other way.

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HTQ- Edge has been involved with Kane in the past two RAWs. No Blowoff, smart guy.

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And I could argue that, especially after the PPV where Edge lost clean, that it's been mainly about Kane/Lita and NOT Kane/Edge.

 

I don't remember Kane cornering Edge in the back saying he was going to cut off HIS breathing, or whatever the hell Kane said.

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Didnt Diesel get PINNED by the Undertaker clean at Wrestlemania 12 and then headline the next ppv against world champ HBK?

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You mean before doing the clean job on his way out of the promotion as fodder for the guy they were pushing to the moon as their champion?

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If he was fodder, why elevate him back up to face the champ? He could have faced a top-level guy who wasn't the champ, a la Vader-Razor the month before.

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Not to mention Deisel was built very well, and marks who did not know he was leaving really did not know if HBK could overcome the 7 foot monster.

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HTQ- Edge has been involved with Kane in the past two RAWs. No Blowoff, smart guy.

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And I could argue that, especially after the PPV where Edge lost clean, that it's been mainly about Kane/Lita and NOT Kane/Edge.

 

I don't remember Kane cornering Edge in the back saying he was going to cut off HIS breathing, or whatever the hell Kane said.

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I fued with Lita is a fued with Edge, as the Edge/Kane fued was alwyas about Lita and only Lita.