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London Police Evacuate Tube Stations and Bus

 

LONDON - Two weeks after suicide attacks on subway stations and a bus, police evacuated three subway stations and a bus after reports of smoke and an explosion Thursday. Police said one person was hurt but it was not a "major incident."

 

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The bus operator said the windows of the double-decker bus were blown out.

 

Police announced they were sending emergency teams to the Warren Street, Shepherds Bush and Oval stations after reports at lunch time of unspecified incidents. One witness told Sky TV that another subway passenger told him a backpack exploded at the Warren Street station and there were reports of smoke.

 

Prime Minister    Tony Blair canceled his afternoon appointments as the developments unfolded.

 

More than an hour after the reports, Metropolitan Police said they were not treating it as a major incident on a par with the July 7 attacks the killed 56 people, including four suicide bombers.

 

However, the incidents were hauntingly similar to the blasts two weeks ago, which involved explosions at three Underground stations simultaneously — quickly followed by a blast on a bus. Those bombings, during the morning rush hour, also occurred in the center of London, hitting the Underground railway from various directions.

 

Thursday's incidents, however, were more geographically spread out.

 

London Ambulance said it was called to the Oval station at 12:38 p.m. and Warren Street at 12:45 p.m. The July 7 attacks began at 8:51 a.m.

 

I just heard on T.V the one at Warren St. was a nail bomb. More reports are coming in, hopefully not like two weeks ago, but I remember then they thought it was just a power surge.

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It's a shame...

 

It's not like there's any reasoning with the barbarians...they want to kill all civilized non-Muslims. The civilized Western democracies would be better off severing all economic ties with the barbarian Arab Muslim nations until they curb the radicals in their societies. Until then, our nations will be faced with more terrorist attacks.

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First off, I hope that today's incidents don't escalate into anything like 2 weeks ago... hopefully all of our British members and their families/friends are okay.

 

Now for some thoughts... assuming that there is any accuracy at all in television police dramas (perhaps a silly assumption), bombers are usually creatures of habit. They find a type of bomb that they like and they use it pretty much exclusively. The fact that today's explosives were evidently of a smaller and seemingly less-dependable variety would seem to imply that the bombs were the work of a different bomb-builder, which would in turn imply that the people doing the bombing are different as well. So the question becomes is this a legitimate follow-up terrorist attack or the work of copycats... possibly even thrill-seekers? It wouldn't be the first time someone has played an incredibly stupid prank in the wake of tragedy.

 

If this is truly the work of terrorists, I think it would mark one of the first times that a Western city has fallen under repeated attacks of this nature, and could be a sign of things to come. After 9/11 the United States was/is incredibly concerned about follow-up attacks that never materialized, which made a lot of people doubt the veracity of their fears... this would seem to confirm them.

 

Which is of course what any good terrorist would want... people afraid.

 

Sadly, I really don't see any logical way that a War on Terror can be won, so the repeated success of attacks of this sort will only encourage others to try too... the key is not to let them get what they want. Giving even one terrorist what he wants in response to a threat would tell all the other terrorists and would-be terrorists that the methods they employ are effective.

 

If I were a smarter man I'd have some useful suggestion for an alternative that would result in everyone getting along, but I'm not and I don't... I expect this sort of thing to continue and probably escalate.

 

Fun times we live in. :(

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For fucks sake I hope this is enough to persuade out government that they need toradically change their policies with regards to these nutjobs- just put them all on an island and blow them up that'll fucking show them give them a taste of their own medicine....

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That'd be a waste of a good island. Unfortunately I don't think there's much we can do to stop these attacks except continue to hope that the groups organising them can be discovered and stopped in time.

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That'd be a waste of a good island. Unfortunately I don't think there's much we can do to stop these attacks except continue to hope that the groups organising them can be discovered and stopped in time.

 

 

It's just so fruststrating that there are possibly one or more sleeper groups living amongst us, just waiting for orders to attack, it really is scary if you think about it when you see that guys like that nutty cleric can pretty much do whatever they want and no one can do anything because of old laws and that their racist preaching may have been part of what stirred these young British people (about my age) to actually want to go and kill fellow (innocent) English people over a religious conflict.....

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No one got killed and they already caught a guy. Amateurs.

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It's a shame...

 

It's not like there's any reasoning with the barbarians...they want to kill all civilized non-Muslims. The civilized Western democracies would be better off severing all economic ties with the barbarian Arab Muslim nations until they curb the radicals in their societies. Until then, our nations will be faced with more terrorist attacks.

 

You don't honestly expect that to work, do you?

 

 

For fucks sake I hope this is enough to persuade out government that they need toradically change their policies with regards to these nutjobs- just put them all on an island and blow them up that'll fucking show them give them a taste of their own medicine....

 

Threaten people who don't fear death with death? I'm not sure if you've thought that through.

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Here we go again

 

Police have shot a suspected suicide bomber near a tube station in south London.

 

Marksmen opened fire near Stockwell Tube station as passengers were evacuated. It is thought the man was killed.

 

 

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say `get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

 

Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said: "There is no word on whether he has been killed or simply injured."

 

If the suspect is confirmed to be a suicide bomber, it would mark the fifth attempted terrorist attack on London in less than a day.

-- Sky

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They have just released CCTV images of men they want to question. There just normal guys you would see in the street, no robes, two didn't have long beards or anything that is thought of when you think Islamic Fundamentalisim. How do you stop a normally dressed guy with a bag going on a bus and blowing himself up? I really don't think you can

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They have just released CCTV images of men they want to question. There just normal guys you would see in the street, no robes, two didn't have long beards or anything that is thought of when you think Islamic Fundamentalisim. How do you stop a normally dressed guy with a bag going on a bus and blowing himself up? I really don't think you can

 

Thats what makes it so hard to defeat terrorism.

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The thing I don't get is why was he shot five times. If he was carrying anything the only way to immobilize him would be a headshot, and you only need one shot for that.

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That's not what police officers are taught. They're taught to aim for center mass, and to basically unload into the perp.

 

Ever notice how often when there is a shooting by the police, the 'victim' usually has multiple gunshot wounds? It's because if the situation has degraded to the point where deadly force is necessary, than the cop is going to go all the way with it.

 

It's unfortunate this man was an innocent, but then again, you pretty much assume the risk, given the circumstances, by running from the police.

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The thing I don't get is why was he shot five times. If he was carrying anything the only way to immobilize him would be a headshot, and you only need one shot for that.

 

 

That's not what police officers are taught.  They're taught to aim for center mass, and to basically unload into the perp. 

 

Ever notice how often when there is a shooting by the police, the 'victim' usually has multiple gunshot wounds?  It's because if the situation has degraded to the point where deadly force is necessary, than the cop is going to go all the way with it. 

Actually, the most commonly known method of taking out a target as quickly as possible is two shots into the chest (aka a double tap,) and then one into the head.

 

If you want to see a movie where this method is used accurately, go see Collateral starring Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx. Cruise's assassin character makes all his kills that way and it's so neat that they used guns realistically, that it negates the presence of Tom Cruise, who is worth something in the range of -2 Jamie Foxx's on screen.

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