Guest jackie fargo Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Who else in WWE has Creative control in his contract- It's reported in this weeks Observer that Hogan signed a new 20 year deal that gives him "creative control"- Who else in the company has this clause in their contract- I thought the WWE stopped giving creative control? Could we be looking at a swerve finish at SS if Hogan wants to go over HBK- this brings a lot of intrigue into Hogan matches now, If Mcmahon changes his mind about a match, it could be Montreal all over again?
Guest *KNK* Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Triple H by default has creative control. Hogan doesnt care as long as he gets his money. He jobbed out to everyone the last 3 years, only left for money issues.
Papacita Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Didn't his first falling out with Vince (since returning in 02) happen because he refused to allow Brock to go over in a rematch?
Guest rawmvp Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 a 20 year deal? Did I read that right? So he'll be wrestling until he's 70? MY GOD.
Silence Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Didn't his first falling out with Vince (since returning in 02) happen because he refused to allow Brock to go over in a rematch? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. I remember reading that, too. There was also a fallout in 2003 between Hogan and Vince due to Hogan bitching about not getting more ring time in a 6-man tag team match that involved Lesnar and Angle as his partners in the match.
Guest JMA Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 I don't want to imagine how Hogan will look in ten years, let alone twenty. The guy needs to retire as an in-ring wrestler almost as much as Flair does.
Guest *KNK* Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 a 20 year deal? Did I read that right? So he'll be wrestling until he's 70? MY GOD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its really just a promotional contract.
Guest jackie fargo Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 a 20 year deal? Did I read that right? So he'll be wrestling until he's 70? MY GOD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its really just a promotional contract. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The two situations where Hogan had a falling out witH McMahon was his wrestle-mania payoff at Mania-20 The lesnar situation was planned for survivior series, but when Hogan received his Pay-off he was upset and wouldn't work the match, plus he didn't see putting over lesnar twice for just putting him over-He did a good job the first time- The second time was over his return TV match at Madison Square garden, where he was already leaving for Pushing the Mr. America gimmick on him- I'm still suprised Hogan would get creative control, I'm wondering , does HBK have this stipulation in his contract as well-this oculd mAke for an intersting finish at SS.
iliketurtles Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Didn't his first falling out with Vince (since returning in 02) happen because he refused to allow Brock to go over in a rematch? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. I remember reading that, too. There was also a fallout in 2003 between Hogan and Vince due to Hogan bitching about not getting more ring time in a 6-man tag team match that involved Lesnar and Angle as his partners in the match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The other reason was his Wrestlemania 19 paycheck, which I heard was around 250,000...and he was pissed off at the point of the MSG tag match.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Didn't his first falling out with Vince (since returning in 02) happen because he refused to allow Brock to go over in a rematch? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. I remember reading that, too. There was also a fallout in 2003 between Hogan and Vince due to Hogan bitching about not getting more ring time in a 6-man tag team match that involved Lesnar and Angle as his partners in the match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The first falling out was indeed over Hogan wanting to beat Lesnar in their Survivor Seriers rematch, with Vince wanting Lesnar to win again. The six-man problem wasn't so much that Hogan wanted more ring time, but that with the reaction Hogan was getting, he wanted Angle and Lesnar to go with it and make the hot tag to him, and that wasn't how the match was laid out. Not only that, but Hogan wasn't happy with doing the job to Big Show and being, in his mind, reduced to background material to the Lesnar-Angle-Show issue that was being pushed at the time.
cabbageboy Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 To some extent I see Hogan's point on a bit of this. The way Lesnar crushed him the first time having Hogan come back only to get stomped again wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Thing is, neither would jobbing Brock out to the old Hogan. Basically that one shouldn't have been booked.
Guest jackie fargo Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 I'm pretty sure, THe last disagreement Hogan had with McMahon was over the Mr. America Gimmick and the fact that Hogan was getting the loudest face pops, and they had Hogan get pinned by Big Show in his first TV appearance at MSG..
Guest Hass of Pain Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 The Undertaker has veto power on any storyline pitched to him due to his seniority according to Meltzer.
Cheech Tremendous Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 The Undertaker has veto power on any storyline pitched to him due to his seniority according to Meltzer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shouldn't he be getting some heat over this Hassan debacle then?
Crimson G Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Hopefully he'll be told the company can't afford such a lengthy contract and that he should take the $3 million/year contract offered by VH1 instead, but that he'll have creative control over his character until his contract's up...
Guest JMA Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Which wrestlers, besides Bret and Hogan, have actually had Creative Control clauses (official ones) in their contracts?
Guest JMA Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 I assume Nash and Michaels did? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe. But I've never heard of them having any special clauses while in WWE.
Jericho2000Mark Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 I'm pretty sure Triple H has more creative control than Hogan, Taker, Michaels or Nash ever had.
Silence Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 The Undertaker has veto power on any storyline pitched to him due to his seniority according to Meltzer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> AKA "I'm not feelin' it". Oh wait, that refers to his refusal to put younger talent over (except going over Hassan would make sense considering the Muhammad Hassan character's going to get dropped and he's not ready for a World Heavyweight/WWE title reign yet). Never mind.
Enigma Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 The original plan was for Hogan vs. Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002 with Lesnar going over. Hogan wanted to win the title, and that was the end of that.
Guest jackie fargo Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 The original plan was for Hogan vs. Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002 with Lesnar going over. Hogan wanted to win the title, and that was the end of that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SO whos going over at SS Hogan or Micheals? With Hogan's creative control, who wins next month?
PLAGIARISM! Posted July 23, 2005 Report Posted July 23, 2005 Given that all his departures from all companies stem from problems regarding creative control, I can't help but think this is a bad idea. Obv. he won't be in the ring anymore, but for the money he asks for, what's the point?
Jobber of the Week Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 I'm pretty sure Triple H has more creative control than Hogan, Taker, Michaels or Nash ever had. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> HHH has jobbed way more, even in the 2002-now period, than Hogan ever did in his prime. Hogan has so much power that he left the comapny AND dropped the title at the same time in a friggin' screwjob finish implies to marks that he probably still should have been champion. If that kind of exit isn't a serious display of political power, then I don't know what is. HHH's power mostly revolves around being able to waste TV time with his windbag promos. Sure, he tried pushing Orton & Batista along but those guys would have gotten over with Vince for their body styles anyway.
Jericho2000Mark Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 I'm pretty sure Triple H has more creative control than Hogan, Taker, Michaels or Nash ever had. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> HHH has jobbed way more, even in the 2002-now period, than Hogan ever did in his prime. Hogan has so much power that he left the comapny AND dropped the title at the same time in a friggin' screwjob finish implies to marks that he probably still should have been champion. If that kind of exit isn't a serious display of political power, then I don't know what is. HHH's power mostly revolves around being able to waste TV time with his windbag promos. Sure, he tried pushing Orton & Batista along but those guys would have gotten over with Vince for their body styles anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No way, Vince even mentioned Triple H along Shane and Steph as the three people who will run his company when he steps down. Hogan might be gone in a couple months, but Triple H will never leave...
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