Jeff Jarrett: Bad For TNA, Bad With Black People

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Stolen From DVDVR, who stole it from God Knows Where

 

Major Incident In Hotel Room Involving Top TNA Wrestlers

Written by Tim Brown on August 30, 2005 at 09:08:47

-- Despite the new TNA booking team, mainly Scott D’Amore and Mike Tenay, getting high marks from the wrestlers, there is still frustration over Jeff Jarrett’s influence on the product. Many believe that Jeremy Borash and Dutch Mantel of the booking team are basically there just to look out for Jarrett.

 

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there was recently a heated situation in a hotel room between Ron Killings, Konnan, and Jeff Jarrett. When Jarrett proposed that the group of BJ James (The Road Dogg), Konnan, and Killings break up, he suggested that Konnan would go into a new group and BJ James would go with Kip James (Billy Gunn), which would leave Killings with nothing. Killings was quite frustrated with this, and that is when things got heated. Words were exchanged, and Jarrett supposedly called Killings an “uppity Negro”, and things almost got ugly.

 

Killings offered to be a team with Jeff Hardy, an idea which had actually been suggested several times before by others, but Jarrett didn’t like the idea.

 

Konnan has went so far as to threaten to leave the company, if Jarrett sees that they are broken up, leaving Killings with nothing. Konnan had earlier suggested to bring indy wrestler Homicide into the group, to replace James.

[Magus 0]

The sooner Jarrett leaves TNA the better.

[Eclipse 0]

Homicide would BE AWESOME if they brought him in. He would totally fit into the group.

[Guest *KNK*]

Homicide and Konnan? That sounds wrong.

 

I will put it right here, Jarrett is out of TNA by New Year's time.

[razazteca 0]

Jarrett vs Killings at the next PPV?

[Magus 0]

Homicide and Konnan? That sounds wrong.

 

I will put it right here, Jarrett is out of TNA by New Year's time.

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I can see that. Jarrett and his stooges will head to WWWA.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

-- Despite the new TNA booking team, mainly Scott D’Amore and Mike Tenay, getting high marks from the wrestlers, there is still frustration over Jeff Jarrett’s influence on the product. Many believe that Jeremy Borash and Dutch Mantel of the booking team are basically there just to look out for Jarrett.

 

Borash and Mantell are tight with Jeff, and Mantell and Jerry Jarrett have worked together before too, so it goes without saying that both are looking out for Jeff. That wouldn't be a bad thing if pushing Jeff was good for business, but it isn't.

 

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there was recently a heated situation in a hotel room between Ron Killings, Konnan, and Jeff Jarrett. When Jarrett proposed that the group of BJ James (The Road Dogg), Konnan, and Killings break up, he suggested that Konnan would go into a new group and BJ James would go with Kip James (Billy Gunn), which would leave Killings with nothing. Killings was quite frustrated with this, and that is when things got heated. Words were exchanged, and Jarrett supposedly called Killings an “uppity Negro”, and things almost got ugly.

 

I can believe this happened.

 

Konnan has went so far as to threaten to leave the company, if Jarrett sees that they are broken up, leaving Killings with nothing. Konnan had earlier suggested to bring indy wrestler Homicide into the group, to replace James.

 

And don't think Konnan wouldn't walk out. He would. Homicide being brought in would be a real test of TNA's booking team in terms of how hip and modern they are. If they can make Homicide come across as a legit street thug, that would add an edge to TNA that it needs.

[Guest Gary Busey]

This is originally from this weeks Observer, as noted. Jarrett didn't just pop out a racial slur out of no-where, Dave reported that Jeff and Killings have joked around in the past about Ron being an "uppity negro" (and I imagine Jeff being a honky, too). It never bothered Killings before, because it was all in jest, but since they were both getting heated in their argument Ron took it more seriously.

 

If I was Jeff, though, I wouldn't be joking around like that. Although I josh my friends because they are black and asian, and they do the same to me, I wouldn't do that if I was their boss. It's all in good fun, but if the relationship sours, Killings could play the racism card against the Jarrett's because they have part ownership of the company and are serious part of the booking team.

 

I think it's really cool of Konnan to stand up for his friend like that. Konnan's suggestion would kick ass and actually help I think, because then you could have three groups that could feud and work together against one another if need be. There are tons of angles that could come of this.

 

I also don't understand why they wouldn't have anything for Killings. I think he's pretty talented, and he was their freaking world champ not too long ago, and now they have nothing for him? When they hit Spike, they need cool characters like Killings to help connect with the audience. Nobody would remember his run in the WWE and I bet the black audience would go crazy for some Sun-tanned Superman merchandise (copyright issues aside).

[Guest *KNK*]

And don't think Konnan wouldn't walk out. He would. Homicide being brought in would be a real test of TNA's booking team in terms of how hip and modern they are. If they can make Homicide come across as a legit street thug, that would add an edge to TNA that it needs.

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Homicide could be a HUGE asset to TNA.

 

There's no denying that Homicide has the ability to get over a monster heel or even as a charismatic babyface.

 

TNA needs that edge, Homicide can completely provide that. Also he can brawl with the best of them and can also completely set down and work a wrestling match.

 

There's endless options to a talent like Homicide and unlike New Jack, whom Homicide is so wrongly compared to because of similarities, He isn't a headache and legal casualty.

 

TNA and Spike need all the marketable people they can get, Spike appears to be doing this "Real" push with UFC and pushing that TNA isn't the norm that we came to accept from WWE.

 

Homicide could be a fantastic spokesman for that promotional drive.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Homicide could be a huge breakout star if booked right. Give him free reign, and he can come across as a legit badass, but in a totally different way than someone like Samoa Joe.

[Styles 0]

-I read it directly in this week's Observer. As mentioned, Killings and Jarrett have a history of joking around with each other and calling each other things like that, but apparently in the heat of the argument it wasn't taken as a joke.

-I really don't want the 3LK broken up.

-If they are, Homicide totally needs to replace BG and maybe turn the 3 heel. I have been craving a heel Homicide vs. face Raven feud for a while. That would kick ass.

[Guest *KNK*]

Homicide could be a huge breakout star if booked right. Give him free reign, and he can come across as a legit badass, but in a totally different way than someone like Samoa Joe.

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Precisely, Samoa Joe needs to be the subtle, quiet ass kicking machine. No catchphrases, no playing to the crowd.

 

Exactly what they have done with him so far.

 

Homicide needs to be the opposite, a chaotic lunatic who can cause incredible pain and take pain like no one else but not be a cartoonish character.

 

Homicide drips with that "legit" charisma, You look at him for the first time and he doesn't look forced or "gimmicked".

 

I don't think he even needs to be aligned with 3LK. In fact, he's better off on his own for the time being.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

1. Homicide would be great for TNA.

 

2. Killings is by far the most useful part of 3LK

[dubq 0]

Why do they even keep Jarrett around? He has no star power. Who the fuck buys a ticket to see just old Double J? Sure as hell not me.

[RedJed 0]

While I think the 3LK should be broken up, I totally dont agree that Killings should be left in the dust. Ideally, I think you do a Konnan heel turn on James and Killings - from there, James goes with Billy Gunn of course, and then Killings and Konnan can feud in singles for a bit. At some point incorporating a guy like Homicide would be GREAT - you could either team him with Konnan or Killings, either way would be fine. A cool idea might be to do a Killings/Homicide v. Konnan/Shocker feud, and then at some point when that feud ends, Homicide turns on Killings. Konnan and Shocker could then focus more on a feud with the James Gang or whatever they will be called.

 

If this report is all true, and I would bet it likely is, I think Jarrett has about an inch of room to continue his stint in TNA for a few more months, and thats it. I really think they might just do the losers leave stip at BFG and he loses and thats his finale with the company. Needless to say, that would be the best possible suggestion for him at this point, perhaps also hotshotting a match with Monte Brown at Unbreakable also, where he puts Brown over (I know, it would make no sense then that Jarrett would get a title shot the next month, but what the hell). If that WWWA deal with ESPN and ppv is valid, I bet he and Jerry will go there in no time, as the company itself can't allow this behavior to go on much longer and the Jarretts are obviously not happy in TNA. He's already been somewhat demoted in a way, and is still shirring up shit politicially. Time to kick him out the door, Carters! He's not worth the time and especially the effort anymore. He's made it perfectly clear he continuously tries to hold down talent who he feels will get over.

[Carnival 0]

This like taking the National Enquirer seriously.

[RedJed 0]

This like taking the National Enquirer seriously.

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Meltzer doesnt hardly ever report gossipy stuff like this for a reason, so with that said, I would assume he has a very reliable source (I am 99 percent sure its Konnan) with this.

[Carnival 0]

It doesn't matter. It's a waste to even talk about this gossip crap. The only thing here news worthy is that Jarrett is a moron for leaving killings with nothing to do. The Negro comment is just to stir the pot and paint Jarrett as even more of a "bad person".

[Ripper 0]

or Jarrett said it.

[RedJed 0]

It doesn't matter. It's a waste to even talk about this gossip crap. The only thing here news worthy is that Jarrett is a moron for leaving killings with nothing to do. The Negro comment is just to stir the pot and paint Jarrett as even more of a "bad person".

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I dont think anyone is really going on and on about Jarrett's comment about him that much, are they?

[Guest Gary Busey]

Time to kick him out the door, Carters! He's not worth the time and especially the effort anymore. He's made it perfectly clear he continuously tries to hold down talent who he feels will get over.

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Isn't it weird that we're all cheering for the outside investors, who never had anything to do with wrestling in the past, to kick out the Jarrett's, a family ingrained in wrestling? Although it looks like the right decision, I think it's wild that the guys who started the company need to be shown the door.

 

The Carters, in many ways, seem like the perfect fit to run a wrestling. Dixie apparently has a background in sports marketing, they have no alliances to anybody already in the business so they don't do things for friends or themselves over business, they have the money to see things through and they surround themselves with apparently productive people instead of yes-men. It seems like they're learning as they go, the booking team being the best example. It took them several tries, but the creative team evolved into something good over time as far as I can tell.

 

There are still a lot of negatives (1bob, etc) but they seem to be working things out.

[Carnival 0]

It doesn't matter. It's a waste to even talk about this gossip crap. The only thing here news worthy is that Jarrett is a moron for leaving killings with nothing to do. The Negro comment is just to stir the pot and paint Jarrett as even more of a "bad person".

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I dont think anyone is really going on and on about Jarrett's comment about him that much, are they?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Did you read the thread? There are a quite few. It doesn't matter how many people are talking about it, it's still gossip. And it's still NOT newsworthy. Why people still let the tabloid of wrestling form their opinions for them is beyond me. I never believe these types of "backstage argument" stories, it's always taken out of context or completely false.

[Ripper 0]

The only comments on it is how the negroes comment is a joke that killings and Jarrett share and that it was just wrong timing. If anything that puts it in a better light. So basically you are saying defending of jarrett is bad here?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

It doesn't matter. It's a waste to even talk about this gossip crap. The only thing here news worthy is that Jarrett is a moron for leaving killings with nothing to do. The Negro comment is just to stir the pot and paint Jarrett as even more of a "bad person".

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I dont think anyone is really going on and on about Jarrett's comment about him that much, are they?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Did you read the thread? There are a quite few. It doesn't matter how many people are talking about it, it's still gossip. And it's still NOT newsworthy. Why people still let the tabloid of wrestling form their opinions for them is beyond me. I never believe these types of "backstage argument" stories, it's always taken out of context or completely false.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

You're an uppity Jarrett mark.

[Carnival 0]

The only comments on it is how the negroes comment is a joke that killings and Jarrett share and that it was just wrong timing.  If anything that puts it in a better light.  So basically you are saying defending of jarrett is bad here?

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If you understand that the joke was just bad timing, then obviously you should get my point that this is gossip trash from the observer, printed to be taken out of context to make Jarrett look racist. Or is it really that hard to put 2 and 2 together?

 

Porter.....good one.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

It doesn't matter. It's a waste to even talk about this gossip crap. The only thing here news worthy is that Jarrett is a moron for leaving killings with nothing to do. The Negro comment is just to stir the pot and paint Jarrett as even more of a "bad person".

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I dont think anyone is really going on and on about Jarrett's comment about him that much, are they?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Did you read the thread? There are a quite few. It doesn't matter how many people are talking about it, it's still gossip. And it's still NOT newsworthy. Why people still let the tabloid of wrestling form their opinions for them is beyond me. I never believe these types of "backstage argument" stories, it's always taken out of context or completely false.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

You're an uppity Jarrett mark.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It took you long enough to realise.

[Magus 0]

While I think the 3LK should be broken up, I totally dont agree that Killings should be left in the dust. Ideally, I think you do a Konnan heel turn on James and Killings - from there, James goes with Billy Gunn of course, and then Killings and Konnan can feud in singles for a bit. At some point incorporating a guy like Homicide would be GREAT - you could either team him with Konnan or Killings, either way would be fine. A cool idea might be to do a Killings/Homicide v. Konnan/Shocker feud, and then at some point when that feud ends, Homicide turns on Killings. Konnan and Shocker could then focus more on a feud with the James Gang or whatever they will be called.

 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Your idea for 3LK is really good. Konnan would be best used as a mouthpiece to help Shocker or any other luchas TNA may bring in. I think the James Gang definitely need to turn heel on Konnan/Killings, though. They're best used as bad guys that the fans cheer for anyway. Then you get James Gang vs. Konnan/Killings, then Killings turning against Konnan, leading to Konnan/Shocker vs. Killings/Homicide. Killings could have a good heel run with Homicide as his bodygaurd (until, of course, they turn on one another...)

 

Getting back on topic, despite the opinion of his only fan, Jarrett needs to leave TNA asap. If he continues with the primadonna shit, it'll be sooner rather than later. Like I said, he'll head to that new promotion where he'll have lots of World Title matches against Jim Duggan. In fact, in a few years, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jarrett return for a run in WWE just to badmouth TNA.

[cabbageboy 0]

Jarrett's antics were fine when NWA: TNA was merely a redneck local league out of Nashville. Hell it reminded me of the USWA with Jerry pushing his son and all that (I loved the USWA, but I'm from Louisville...I HAVE to).

 

That said, Jarrett has too much of a "Late era WCW" stigma about him. There's no way any promotion with serious designs on going big time can have him as a main eventer.

 

I doubt that WWWA thing is legit, has ESPN had wrestling on since Global shut down? And if it is legit, why on earth would they pick a promotion run by Jim Duggan?

 

Basically, what is likely to happen to Jarrett is this: He'll wear out his welcome in the NWA. Then this WWWA thing will go the way of the WXO. And Vince probably won't want him back. In other words, he'll be fucked.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Jarrett will always find work in wrestling...he's a former WCW and NWA World Champion...there will always be someone who wants to bring him in, thinking he'll be a draw. I agree with the comments that he has too much of a late-era WCW guy about him to be any kind of real draw, though.

 

I think Vince learned his lesson with him, and won't ever bring him back to WWE, though.

[Ripper 0]

I never understood why vince hated Jarrett so much. "How dare he ask me for a huge amount of money to job to a woman for that title that you hold when we neglected to renew your contract and you have no responsiblity to actually come and perform and blowoff this potentially career destroying angle."