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I never got into the Hassan character, but that dude got a bad deal.

 

I'm in total agreement. Granted I hated the gimmick and I wasnt impressed by either his workrate or mic skills, but he still didn't deserve this. They should have at least left him in developmental for awhile and had him return with a different gimmick.

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I could stand him in the ring and on the mic (and I said 'stand', not 'like'), but I hated his character. Of course, as far as we know that wasn't his choice, so overall I think he's got kind of a rough deal given that the writers made him so godawful that their network banned him.

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Fuck UPN.

 

If SD ever moves from the network, which pretty much looks inevitable, they better hire his ass back. (I especially would have love the irony of Hassan on USA.)

 

Cheap heat or not, there's no doubt that during his stay Hassan was one of the most over stars. And Batista/Hassan possible could have created a much better stir then JBL/Batista. Especially in DC.

 

Hell, I would have liked a JBL/Hassan feud...for the entertainment aspect.

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Cheap heat or not, there's no doubt that during his stay Hassan was one of the most over stars.

 

Do you not understand what cheap heat is?

 

Hassan wasn't over, he was a walking cheap heat machine. Overness stays, cheap heat fades as soon as the next guy comes out. Pavlovian response is all it was, push the patriotism button and the live audience reacts. That does not equate to Hassan being over. Do you think anyone misses Hassan right now?

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No news on whether Daivari was kept or not?

Shawn Daivari was supposed to report to Deep South Wrestling, WWE's new developmental territory in McDonough, GA, but decided to go home to Minnesota instead.

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There is no cheap heat, the idea is to get heat, if you get it, mission accomplished. The easier the better.

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Do you not understand what cheap heat is?

 

Hassan wasn't over, he was a walking cheap heat machine. Overness stays, cheap heat fades as soon as the next guy comes out. Pavlovian response is all it was, push the patriotism button and the live audience reacts. That does not equate to Hassan being over. Do you think anyone misses Hassan right now?

 

 

Pretty much what he said.

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"So if you get heat from dropping the N-Bomb, it's ok?"

 

Why not? The goal is to make people not like you, if it will make people not like you, mission accomplished. I never understood the over-sensitivity to what's essentially good guys and bad guys. The good guys should be good, the bad guys should be bad.

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There is no cheap heat, the idea is to get heat, if you get it, mission accomplished. The easier the better.

 

 

If that's the case, is it ok to also get X-Pac/Jeff Jarrett type heat? You know, the kind of heat that helps you kill the audience and not want to invest their time and money into the product?

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Why not? The goal is to make people not like you, if it will make people not like you, mission accomplished. I never understood the over-sensitivity to what's essentially good guys and bad guys. The good guys should be good, the bad guys should be bad.

They would eliminate at least 20% of their audience by having their characters consistently drop the n-bomb everywhere, not to mention have the government on their asses for showing that during primetime television.

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Why not? The goal is to make people not like you, if it will make people not like you, mission accomplished. I never understood the over-sensitivity to what's essentially good guys and bad guys. The good guys should be good, the bad guys should be bad.

 

 

It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

 

There is a difference between getting people to want to pay to see you get beaten up or defeated in a match versus offending people to the point where they don't want to watch the product. Sure, it'd be nice if people weren't so over-sensitive cause then the WWE would have a field day, but unfortunately that isn't the world we live in.

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That's the point of wrestling, they won't want to just go on there way remembering the asshole, they'll want to see him get his ass kicked. Set it up so he will, and they'll pay to see it. It's wrestling 101 that's only questioned because of WWE's quasi-fabe production style.

 

Xpac heat has never been proven, numbers didn't drop as he was used, people didn't leave whenever he came out for a match, ratings didn't plummet when he hit the screen. It's a myth that people like to use when they don't want to admit that the heel they're in love with isn't really liked by anyone.

 

Heels are supposed to make people hate them so those same people in turn pay to see them get beat up. The basis of all pro wrestling. You put limitations on what a person can or can't do to be disliked, and the business would of been dead by now.

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That's the point of wrestling, they won't want to just go on there way remembering the asshole, they'll want to see him get his ass kicked. Set it up so he will, and they'll pay to see it. It's wrestling 101 that's only questioned because of WWE's quasi-fabe production style.

 

Xpac heat has never been proven, numbers didn't drop as he was used, people didn't leave whenever he came out for a match, ratings didn't plummet when he hit the screen. It's a myth that people like to use when they don't want to admit that the heel they're in love with isn't really liked by anyone.

 

Heels are supposed to make people hate them so those same people in turn pay to see them get beat up. The basis of all pro wrestling. You put limitations on what a person can or can't do to be disliked, and the business would of been dead by now.

 

:)

 

I like this guy. Preach. :cheers:

 

Fuck WWE and UPN for fucking Hassan over, on that note. I, for one, will have him down as one of my favorite WWE guys, ever. I appreciate the time the man had on TV, wish him the best, and assuming he's still in, since I believe he is, I will proceed to murder the Smackdown and RAW roster whenever SD/RAW comes out, with Hassan. Yes.

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So if you get heat from dropping the N-Bomb, it's ok?

 

I agree 100% with Kingofthe909, The exact same people on this board that pissed and moaned relentlessly about how he was fully reliant on cheap heat, and had subpar mic and in-ring skills, are now acting like its the biggest tragedy in wrestling history that he was let go. Get over yourselves.

 

Any heat = good heat is no way to look at this situation. The guy was a dark-skinned fellow that WWE decided to stick with the typical "Angry Middle-Eastern guy who badmouths the USA" gimmick. You couldve taken anyone with a similar look of Hassan, and had them mouth the same shit every week and they would've gotten the same heat. This guy was just another flash in the pan heel, and there will be many more after him.

 

From Prowrestling.com

 

One WWE source noted Copani wasn't the most well liked performer backstage. There was a feeling among some that he was only using WWE and pro wrestling as a stepping stone to other things. There was also some bitterness over Hassan turning down a lot of character ideas towards the end of his run. Copani also turned down a request from WWE officials to go back to OVW to brush up his in-ring skills. So a lot of other little things could have contributed to the decision to finally let Copani go.

 

Sure WWE was dumb enough to do the whole terrorist attack angle involving Undertaker without thinking of the consequences, but so be it. Hassan apparently shot down several other ideas that WWE had for him, but went along with the terrorist angle, so the blame is on both.

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Man, I'm kicking myself for not saving that 7/7 SD on my DVR. I'm gonna have to find that tape somewhere. I'll miss that music too. At least I still have my Hassan music ringtone.

 

It's a damn shame he gets scapegoated in this situation, though. He got a pretty bad deal, whether you like him not.

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I miss Hassan, he would have been the only reason for me to watch smackdown. This sucks majorly.

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