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What college campus, and what fraternities? I'm a TKE, though I realize that on just about every other campus out there, TKEs tend to be asses.

 

On pros and cons:

 

Pros:

- You know everyone in the house, and you have a more direct say in your housing and food.

- If it's a good fraternity, you should have at least a majority of good guys in there already, which is nice. There are always guys you don't like, but the majority should be guys you do like.

- It's good for a support system, and it's a very good way to become more social.

 

Cons:

 

- Being on a small college campus, I didn't get hazed too much since the College would know about it quite quickly. Other places, though, will make you go through some fucked up shit, admittedly.

- Not all people belong in fraternities. It's really not for everyone, or not every fraternity is for everyone. Make sure you don't join just because you want to be cool, but because you actually enjoy and maybe even admire a lot of the guys in the house. Otherwise, there is no real reason for it.

 

That's just a real basic overview, though. For myself, I've found it to be a great experience, but it just depends on you and what type of person you are. A close-knit group of friends can be just as good if not better sometimes.

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What college campus, and what fraternities? I'm a TKE, though I realize that on just about every other campus out there, TKEs tend to be asses.

 

Hey, yo...

 

Nice to see another Frater on here.

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I'm probably pledging to Lambda Theta Phi in a couple weeks. I've been out here for a year and a half and I haven't found many ways to meet people, and the times I do, I find myself way too busy to socialize outside of the environments I know them from (mainly work and school), so I think this'll be an interesting way to meet people for me, personally.

 

I go to a really small arts school, so I doubt there's that much of a problem.

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If your campus only has three frats, I'm sure it's small and they're fine. Just big social clubs, really, which you happen to pay an assload of money to join. At big universities, they're most commonly the refuge of hilarious homophobic/homosexual groupthink. I have never otherwise seen so many latently gay dudes in one place.

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Justice hit pretty much everything. There is a world of difference between the chapters at big schools versus the ones at small schools. I would strongly suggest not joining one at a larger school.

 

And chapters do vary by school and you will likely be stereotyped both on and off campus. We actually fit our stereotype on campus of being assholes who like to drink beer. I was a Pike at Georgetown and people who are in my MBA program were a little surprised because I don't fit the stereotype of a date rapist (UK) or a tool (U of L).

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Yeah, it all depends on the guys.

 

My frat was generally full of really smart guys who just liked to get fucked up once a week and hang out, avoid schoolwork and shoot the shit during the week.

Then there was a frat that had lost its national sponsorship and school sponsorship due to persistent allegations that they had roofie parties. All the guys seemed to be missing a chromosome, and I never once saw one of their frat members actually on campus. It was, obviously, the most populous frat in the school.

If you find a group of really cool guys, by all means, go for it.

Keep in mind, though, that frats change. My frat had become very popular by the time I graduated, and the incoming class of pledges was really preppy and stuck up. Keeping in contact with some of my younger frat brothers, apparently the frat's gone to hell. Well, actually it's thriving, but it's lost its esoteric charm. It's the same preppy, stuck-up, bi-curious frat as any other now.

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I never joined a frat in college, and I'm glad I didn't. Most of the frats where I went to college have been involved in various scandals (mainly getting busted repeatedly for out of control drinking parties, serving alcohol to minors, etc). One frat (I think it was the TKEs) actually had a white member appear in blackface during a sketch at a variety show. Also, a guy from one frat got drunk and then fell off a roof of a rival frat house (he was trying to remove their letters). He ended up in a coma. Yeah, sounds like a real fun time...

 

If you find a good frat that isn't just about partying, date raping naive freshman girls, and ass raping each other, that's fine if you honestly want to join them and aren't doing it out of peer pressure. But personally, I found there were plenty of other ways to make friends, and other groups to belong to where I actually learned things (like being a part of our campus RHA, etc).

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I don't remember the exact details. I think he was supposed to be an NBA player (Charles Barkley or something). It didn't sound that bad, honestly, because he wasn't done up like the classic tar faced and big lipped blackface character, but it was pretty bad judgement since this is a pretty "pro diversity" college.

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This reminds me of a story.

In high school me and another kid (he was black) were supposed to do a dramatic skit about the history of Islam. We decided we were going to portray two Muslim NBA players in their old age, reminiscing. He was Hakeem Olajuwan, and I was Mahmoud Abdul Rauf.

And this other dude's mother said we couldn't do that because Abdul Rauf was a Black Muslim, which is an offshoot of Islam, and not the same thing. I asked the teacher, and she thought the kid's mom meant black Muslim as in African-American, and that I couldn't do it because I was white. So she went off on a tirade about racism and called up this kid's mom and bitched her out about racism.

In the end, we did it with our intended characters, and nobody picked up on the humor except me.

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I've always defended fraternities, the good ones at least.

 

We had a "Box of Wine" race last night, 3 teams. 3 guys Vs. Me and 2 girls Vs. 3 girls. The guys won easily, in ridiculous time.

 

The team of 3 girls sleeps over. Basically, I come home from class this morning at 11:30 AM and two of them are still sleeping on the couches.

 

One of them shit our couch. Little, petite thing shit the couch. The couch. Where we sit.

 

I kid not at all.

 

And for the first time, I am utterly disgusted by Greek Life. I know it isnt the frat's fault, but these were sorority girls. And perhaps if we didnt partake in stupid shit like "Box of Wine Race", a girl wouldn't have shit on my couch.

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I've always defended fraternities, the good ones at least.

 

We had a "Box of Wine" race last night, 3 teams.  3 guys Vs. Me and 2 girls Vs. 3 girls.  The guys won easily, in ridiculous time.

 

The team of 3 girls sleeps over.  Basically, I come home from class this morning at 11:30 AM and two of them are still sleeping on the couches.

 

One of them shit our couch.  Little, petite thing shit the couch.  The couch.  Where we sit. 

 

I kid not at all.

 

And for the first time, I am utterly disgusted by Greek Life.  I know it isnt the frat's fault, but these were sorority girls.  And perhaps if we didnt partake in stupid shit like "Box of Wine Race", a girl wouldn't have shit on my couch.

 

Wait is it YOUR couch or the frat's couch?

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I was hanging out with a couple guys and a few girls who suggested the Delts had great parties. I'd never been to one, and went along. I then was surrounded by a frat Edwin described in the second half of his post. A bunch of smarmy rich kids with no personalities that had to buy friends.

 

I proceeded to drink a lot of their beer without paying, and while what started it exactly escapes me, some guy really rubbed me the wrong way, so I started shooting my mouth off at him like I tend to do, then he decided to play tough guy about it, etc etc. I waylaid him, my buddies stepped in to keep me from getting gang-raped, and cooler heads prevailed, until I put him on his ass again like 30 seconds later to make a point. I was smashed, and had like six guys after me, so I was flailing around like a drunk fucker, bottled one of them, got tackled by my friends and dragged out of there under threats of police and/or a thirty guy stomping. I pissed on someone's escalade as I left. Left with only a fat lip. Pussies.

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This reminds me of a story.

In high school me and another kid (he was black) were supposed to do a dramatic skit about the history of Islam. We decided we were going to portray two Muslim NBA players in their old age, reminiscing. He was Hakeem Olajuwan, and I was Mahmoud Abdul Rauf.

And this other dude's mother said we couldn't do that because Abdul Rauf was a Black Muslim, which is an offshoot of Islam, and not the same thing. I asked the teacher, and she thought the kid's mom meant black Muslim as in African-American, and that I couldn't do it because I was white. So she went off on a tirade about racism and called up this kid's mom and bitched her out about racism.

In the end, we did it with our intended characters, and nobody picked up on the humor except me.

I will do everything in my power to get your life story published

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There's a name that doesn't get mentioned much... Mahmoud Abdul Rauf, aka "the jackass formerly known as Chris Jackson", one of a long line of LSU basketball fuckups including Stanley "Kicked out of the NBA for recreational drug use" Roberts and Lester "DUI" Earl.

 

 

Funny how the people who make it big are usually the ones pissing and moaning about how oppressive the US is and how no one ever succeeds.

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Funny how the people who make it big are usually the ones pissing and moaning about how oppressive the US is and how no one ever succeeds.

 

... maybe because they have a form of mass communication TO piss and moan to the general public?

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