Hoff 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 This says everything I need to say. COLE Fans, we-- The lights go down. COLE What the hell? [color=silver][b]*BOOM* *BOOM* *BOOM* *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM~!*[/b][/color] The fans EXPLODE as Hoff, wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, and a gorgeous World Title belt, steps onto the stage. COLE Well the cheers are still astonishing for our controversial World Champion! COACH Yeah, but the fact remains that, outside of a stellar match with PK at Dirty Deeds, Hoff has been pretty much absent without leave. The champ wears a slight smile as he strides down the aisle. Abruptly, Hoff stops, and points with a slight shake of the head to a sign in the upper deck. The sign reads: "COME BACK HOFF!" COLE Well that about says it all, and I'm not sure what to make of Hoff's expression! CABOOSE Usually this idiot carries himself with a wholly undeserved confidence, but tonight it seems as though that World Title belt is weighing heavy on his shoulder. Hoff climbs up the ring steps, ducking under the top rope as he heads into the squared circle. Walking across the ring, Hoff steps onto the far turnbuckle, hoisting his free arm high into the air. COLE Hoff forgoing much of his usual pageantry tonight. Guys, it looks like the champ has something on his mind. The music fades as Hoff steps off the corner. The big man grabs a microphone from the timekeeper at ringside, then heads to the center of the ring to address the audience. "HOFF! HOFF! HOFF! HOFF! HOFF! HOFF! HOFF! HOFF!" COLE They still love him! CABOOSE Yes they do. Hoff lowers his head. HOFF If I could be serious for a moment... The big man looks up with a sly grin as the audience roars in laughter. Hoff breathes deeply before continuing. HOFF So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something's not quite right in the OAOAST. And that something is me. For the last month, while guys like Rodez and Alfdogg have been carrying the show, the man who's supposed to be on top of the world hasn't even been in the building. The fans grow quiet as Hoff continues. HOFF And while everyone in this organization has gone the extra mile to make things better, we can all sense that there's a bg, big problem. And again, that problem is me. The fans actually begin to boo a little as Hoff shoulders some blame. HOFF At Angleslam, in August, I won this World Title, and I meant every word when I said that it was one of the greatest nights of my life. If not the greatest. But since then, I haven't been altogether...truthful. COLE What...what does he mean? HOFF Because I came out here and I told everyone that all the problems, all the issues I had with this company, with this business were worked out, and that's not really true. See, the fact is, when I came back, nothing was resolved, and nothing had changed. My best friend...my best friends in this company, Adam and Rob, better known as Axel and Drek Stone-- SHOCK passes over the arena. A collective gasp is heard throughout Calgary. HOFF My friends and I sat down time and time again, and we looked at how things were going, and the fact is, we weren't having fun anymore. That this grand rivalry, this young vs. old, Originals vs. Upstarts, whatever you want to call it...it wasn't going very well. While everyone in the company was swept into the master plan, creative freedom was set aside. And it would have been okay, everything would have been all right, except for the simple fact that this rivalry has no basis; it has no unifying factor on either side, no catalyst to put it together, and no motivation to cheer for either side. DEEP breath from the champ. HOFF And as we watched it unfold, and we tried to work everyone into the tapestry, we saw Zack Malibu's master plan to "do the Invasion right" make every single mistake it had tried to avoid. And I'll be honest -- as much as I love this business, it became hard to be a part of. COLE I...I don't even.... CABOOSE Just shut up, Cole. Hoff looks down at the belt on his shoulder. HOFF And once I had this...once Axel and I finished telling our story, and I think you'll all agree it was a hell of a ride-- HUGE cheers. HOFF I realized that I had nothing left to fight for. And that no matter how many great matches I had -- and screw humility, I was the best worker in the company and everyone knows it, and brother, THAT IS A SHOOT -- and no matter how many young guys I got to work with, I wasn't going to enjoy myself. And to that end, I owe two huge apologies. One to Tha Puerto Rican, who together, we worked out a GREAT match, and I bailed at the last second. And let me go off topic here, I haven't always been PR's biggest fan, but the fact is he busts his ass every week, and he truly LOVES what we're doing, and he deserves some applause. And he deserved better from me. The fans, predictably, applaud. HOFF And the second guy is Peter Knght...because, and not everyone knows this, but PK laid that whole match out, and he carried my ass to one hell of a main event, and PK, I hope you know I mean it when I say I am sorry. You and I could have and should have done so much more. "YEEEEEAH!!! P-K! P-K! P-K!" HOFF And now that all the apologies are out of the way, I can say what I came out here to say. The simple truth is, I woke up one morning, and I simply couldn't come to work. I couldn't do it anymore -- I was spent. Drained, not physically, not mentally, because let me assure you that I can still go -- but emotionally. Spiritually. I have nothing left. And I think it's safe to say, in the state I'm in-- Hoff lifts the world title off of his shoulder. HOFF I don't deserve this anymore. The big man gently lays the OAOAST Championship Belt on the floor. HOFF You know, it's funny. I always swore I'd put soimeone over for this thing, but so far, it's two title reigns without a defeat to my credit. The crowd noise raises as Hoff sighs heavily, looking down at the belt. The big man turns his gaze back to the fans. HOFF The fact is, not only do YOU desrve a better champion, but so do they. The guys who bust their ass every week, every night...the guys who still love this business. And I'm not saying I don't love it, and I'm not saying I won't be back...but for now...I can't do it anymore. And so, as of this moment, I resign my claim to the OAOAST World Heavyweght Championship. The crowd roars in disapproval. Hoff breathes deep yet again, struggling to get through this. HOFF And just one more time, I want to say I'm sorry-- to everyone, because...because I let you down. Because this isn't the way to do things. But at this point, it's all I can do. And anything you need from me...just ask. If you need one more match, I can give it to you. If you need me at World Without End, at the Hoff Show...I can be there. But when it's all over and done with...I need to go home. "PLEASE DON'T GO!!" "PLEASE DON'T GO!!" "PLEASE DON'T GO!!" "PLEASE DON'T GO!!" Hoff smiles, one last sad smile. HOFF The future is gone, and now, it's time to move on. Thank you....... The fans stand, and applaud. The roar of the crowd swells to an enormous leevl. HOFF Thank you for everything. Hoff sets the mic down. Tears on hisheeks, the big man, the two-time OAOAST Champion, heads out of the ring, down the steps, and down the aisle. As the fans cheer him off, Hoff turns around, looking one last time at the fans, mouthing the words "thank you" before disappearing behind the curtain. All I ask is that the Hoff character not be killed off in some fashion. No crippling injuries, no comic book-esque supervillain murders, etc. Other than that, I leave it in your capable hands. Alf, you have sole discretion over the rest of my cadre of characters. [email protected] if you need anything else from me. - Hoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Sorry to see you go Hoff. Hope you come back sometime. Hell, I felt the same way awhile ago, but I hung around too long and probably made things worse for some people at that time. With regards to this segment, I don't see why it shouldn't close the show. We can have Cal and his segment earlier setting up the matches we previously discussed, because we hadn't heard from Hoff, and then in lieu of a match (since I've been under the weather, can we use this to excuse the SJ/Mad Cappa match?) and have this interrupt the last segment, and close from there. And yeah, Hoff, I don't see any reason to kill off the Hoff character. Fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Wait...we're going to break kayfabe to close the show? Now, I completely understand growing weary of writing, or not wanting to stick around anymore, but you do realize that you're basically saying "there's no point to this angle" in your speech. Which means in OAOAST-land, you're telling people not to care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) And as we watched it unfold, and we tried to work everyone into the tapestry, we saw Zack Malibu's master plan to "do the Invasion right" make every single mistake it had tried to avoid. Like building it around Drek, only for him to suddenly bail and make sure his precious character couldn't be used because 'whatever we do, it'll suck'...then to have you pretty much shit over it on a show? If that's what you meant, then yes, it has made mistakes. EDIT: Please note, The Love Shack will still be going after the credits and going last. I note this now before the probable backlash if Hoff finds out this 'didn't go last'. Edited October 5, 2005 by King Cucaracha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 In lieu of Zack's and KC's comments, I'm starting to see their side of things. We shouldn't break kayfabe, because it does ruin the Upstarts/Originals angle. Is there a way we can manuever Hoff's comments towards just being upset with the Management and deciding its not worth it and quitting. This would make Popick/GPX MORE pissed off because they believed them. Hey, you know Im here for you guys. I like this angle. I dont want to see politics rear their ugly heads again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 That's the thing. It's not politics. It's people who said one thing, then went out and did another. Drek did no work during our feud, save for maybe a promo or two. I wrote that whole Angleslam match during a time where I was working my ass off at the office with my boss vacationing in Florida, and made it so that he got a character boost coming out of it. Apparently he's in Hoff's ear, because when I talked to Hoff last, he was souped up about a lot of the Civil War possibilities. I said from the beginning not EVERYONE needed to be in on it, but it was a good way to weave stories together and get the whole fed motivated again during a downtime, and that was always the basis for the angle. Now I've got to scrambe and come up with a plausible scenario to tie up these holes put into the plot. I also like how they want to see a story develop, but cunt out when it doesn't seem to be revolving around them. I won't say much more because they're powerless now and thus can't see this, but they way they've done everything (Hoff letting his feelings out "in character" and NYU just becoming an avoidant dick about things) has really rubbed me the wrong way, and of course you know they'll just paint me as the bad guy for speaking out against them. I know Adam talks to them, and you can kindly feel free to let them know this if you'd like. Their actions bear no burden on our friendship, but I'm hoping you weren't brainwashed too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Well, this confuses the hell out of me. What problems exactly did NYU have with the whole Civil War angle? It'd be nice if people could discuss their worries and problems in this folder before quitting/disappearing. And I really dislike that Hoff promo. If he's not going to be contributing anymore, I'd rather the Hoff character said nothing at all and just lost the title. Edited October 5, 2005 by Mystery Eskimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I was about to put a judgment call in and ask if we should use that promo, and honestly, I don't think we should. Basically Hoff was just transferring what he wanted to say to us into his character, which is pretty lame. NYU had never responded to any PM's sent to him, never talked to me on AIM after Angleslam, nothing. All while his character was being "protected". Then he just decideds to get all pissy. Well, truth be told, fuck that. Overdramatic acting at it's finest. So far everyone seems cool with what we're doing. If we can get a few more people in on the fed as a whole (maybe some SWFers with spare time, newbs, whatever) we'll be fine. We've got enough characters to move along with the angle for now. As for the Hoff interview, don't put it up. Will they be whiny bitches about it? Probably...but us doing that to them is no worse than what they left us to deal with. I say to leave it off. I thank the rest of you for at least being level-headed and mature enough to help handle this and not let it snowball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I agree with this decision Zack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 You fucking would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I know I'm not really active anymore, but I think it's fair enough to put this in the HD folder and maybe let Hoff edit it so that it's not with the show, but rather just a statement to everyone who participates in OAOAST. This way, it's not breaking kayfabe and everyone knows why Hoff left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I say, use the segment. In all impartiality, Hoff has done more than his fair share for the fed. It seems a little petty to say 'oh no, you can't put this on the show' to anyone Besides, if people want to shoot, then you'd better believe shoots will be shot back. It's the OAOAST way. I give it two weeks before someone's squashing 'Hodd' and 'Beck Sloane' anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) Edited to prevent outburst Edited October 6, 2005 by Stephen Joseph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 No, please, outburst. I'm begging you. Seriously, I've got no beef whatsoever with Zack, with KC, Tony, Eski, and just about everyone else in this fed. The one thing I don't agree with? You going anywhere near that fucking title. What the fuck have you done in the last two years? Could I remind everyone of the times that Popick screwed with the Pay Per Views, went into business for himself, and tried to get over an angle that no one agreed to be a part of? Now he's the perfect choice for a heel champion? No. No way. I could name five guys right now that deserve that title more than Popick. Zack. KC. Tony. Eski. PK. There. That's five guys who bust their asses to write great matches, great promos and great storylines. Alf is another one who's putting in the effort. What exactly is Popick doing? A storyline with a cow last time I checked. Put Hoff's segment up. And Drek's. Its the least we can do for what they've done for this place. Sure, you might not agree with the way they have left, but respect the fact that they busted their asses for going on two years to write some very entertaining segments, matches, and be an active part of the fed overall. I agree with a lot of things he said there, but there's one aspect of Hoff's promo that I definitely agree with. Rob, Ryan and I are great friends, and its due to this place that we are so. I don't want them to go, and I doubt they want to go (or, at least, I don't think Hoff wants to go). But their feelings, their passion, has changed. That's the bottom line. Sure, the fact that they didn't like the OAOAST's direction helped, but they lost that passion. Bottom line. Sure, they'll offer a few parting shots, but so does everyone else. You leave, you settle scores that need to be settled. If they feel that "shooting" on people is something they need to do, that's fine. Shoot back, its fair game now. But don't shoot back unless you actually want to start something that is going to escalate into something bigger than it should be. As for Popick, outburst. Say everything you want to say. Negative comments about my writing? Go for it. Myself personally? Yep, shoot son. Professionally? Go right ahead. It's what the ignore feature is for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 ... Jarrett really pissed you off, eh Adam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) Adam, I've moved on from doing a story with a cow. SJ the character was worked into the Upstarts angle as a disgruntled original, to play off his past. Tony, Dan, Zack, PRL, and alot of other people have really helped build back the SJ character from the joke that it had become. SJ was never intended to win the World Title. He was supposed to be an Upstart, feud with some guys, lose, get kicked out, and come back one last time as a repentant Original. And there his story would end. Written Off. Done. I was quite happy to be back and in that role, and I appreciated that the OAOAST leadership would give me a chance to finish SJ's story. That's all I wanted. However, that didn't happen because some people can't leave the past behind, even if its a internet e-fed. When some people went AWOL, Zack had to go into damage control. I told him in PMs that I wanted to help out however I could. Never once did I "demand" SJ the character get any title shot. Does it seem logical? Yes. Are there characters who deserve the title more than SJ the character? Yes. Do they fit with the current story? Alot of mods made the call that SJ the character made the most sense? Did I suggest this avenue of thought? Yes, because to me it seemed logical. But suggesting it to the people in charge (which I am not, and hope to never ever be again) and making it happen are two different things. I just wanted to help Zack with damage control. Does Dan deserve a run? Hell Yes. Does PR deserve a run? Hell Yes. Does PK dserve a run? Hell Yes. Have Zack and Tony and all the rest done more in the last year than I? Yes. It's frustrating when people treat you as if you're some sort of very bad person, when in fact the bulk of the problems in the past occured because I was a very poor manager of my time, of other people's characters, and yeah, sort of like JJJ and HHH, when it came to writing. For a time, I couldn't seperate myself from any fictionalized representation of myself. I see that, and I'm very sorry that I caused some drama. It wasn't all my fault, all that drama, because there were times when I was trying to help out and people who couldn't let the past go brought back up other stuff. You think I liked reading the Ejaculation Chamber or seeing Prof. Schaeffer ridiculed here? No. I thought of never coming back, but dammit, I wanted to finish the story, and if I didn't come back, then I lose, plain and simple. I've got too much damn character for that. And I got over that shit, now I joke about it, and its the past. So if you can't recognize that past mistakes can be left in the past, people can change, and people can see where they went wrong, then well, there's nothing to be said. I want to help tell Zack's story. I like the original idea. Old vs. New, done right for once. I want PRL to get his deserved time with the belt. But most importantly, I wanted to have fun. Putting in parting shots and laying venom down isn't what the OAOAST is. That's not fun. Being a part of a team, trying to tell a fantasy story, imagining matches, playing with EWR, collaborating, trying to do somethign better than what we see on TV...There was a time where teh OAOAST had better written matches (and still does at PPV time) than the crap the WWE puts out. That's fun. So what's in the past is in the past. I'm here to help tell a story. If you have a problem with that, if you can't forgive my past actions as I've repeatedly asked, that's your problem. I've made my peace, and I have no chip on my shoulder about anything. It's done. It's the past. Time to move forward. If my presence is THAT destructive to an e-fed that I like to write in, and if my presence here again will destroy all the progress that has been made when I was inactive, then I'll pack my bags up, ask to resign my modship and not write ever again for the OAOAST. Because I'd rather there be an OAOAST without me writing any character than no OAOAST at all. Time for some positives. Edited October 6, 2005 by Stephen Joseph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I used to be, and always still would be the first one to criticize Popick's choices, get on his case, or ride shit into the ground just to bust his balls, but quite frankly the guy outside of all the past and present e-fed drama is a good buddy of mine, and character wise, Stephen Joseph getting the World Title at this time makes the most sense. If we're using Booking Logic 101 here, angles work better when a babyface, or in this cases, a group of babyfaces are chasing the heel/heels. Combine that with the inner turmoil amongst the Originals, and it tells the story best. As for Drek and Hoff leaving, Hoff did send me a PM (and apparently he sent it out to others as well, maybe to let them know, or maybe so people know what he said in case there is a fear of me twisting words around, which isn't something I do...I shoot from the hip). Anyhow, to me at least, these "interviews" to me seem to be wanting to drag the fed down. Almost as if saying "well, we're not there, we have nothing to lose", and quite frankly, that type of attitude sucks. If you're not having fun, fine. If you don't like the angle, DON'T PARTICIPATE. That was said from DAY ONE. You don't like my angle? Sorry to hear it, but KC, Tony, Eski, Popick, Patty who isn't even currently active all thought it'd be a good idea and a booster for writing motivation. You don't want to be involved, fine. Hoff also stated that Drek didn't like how he wasn't involved in the planning stages of our feud? Um, excuse me? This was the man whom I talked at great length with about having him beat me at Angleslam, turn Candie heel to align with him, and work out a "bounty" angle where someone put a price on Zack's head, only for it to be revealed that it was Candie and Drek, together. We discussed that TOGETHER. That word, one more time, TOGETHER. It was in this very folder where I asked him if he'd be able to help with Angleslam writing duties. His reply "No, I don't think so." No reason, no explanation, no attempt at an apology for it, nothing. He left me holding the bag writing, and while we made it through and the match came off good, it could have been better with some input from his side. Hoff also mentioned how he needed to edit Drek's theme music in that match because I mistakenly put the old theme instead. Hey, these things happen. Then it was brought to my attention that it seems like I'm not around enough, or do not care about this place. Well, granted as I type this now, I'm at the place I'm at most when talking with you all or writing...my office. I have a job, classes, and other responsibilities. I'm a 24 year old guy working his ass off to get a degree and make more than peanuts, but you know what? I think it's pretty obvious I give a shit about this place, given all the things I've gone through for it. It's pretty obvious, and I'm stating this due to some of the mud-slinging, that Popick cares about this place, because he could have verbally whipped it out and pissed on us long ago. It's pretty obvious that KC cares about this place, because he writes his ass off for two feds (and so do I, but that's besides the point). Tony busts his ass, PK has really stepped up and I thank him for it, Eski is always reliable, Patty who ISN'T EVEN WRITING RIGHT NOW has been incredibly reliable and always comes through in the clutch. I could go on naming everyone in this place...but bottom line is we all care, otherwise we wouldn't be here. No one would have stuck around. Do some people contribute more than others? Yes. Do people have other life responsibilities that sometimes take precident? Yes. I wish contributions and feedback were more excessive, but sometimes you have to handle the reality that people may not have the time. Personally when it comes to feedback I'd rather have some outside sources look at our shows and critique them, because while I appreciate the feedback of everyone here, we're all out to push ourselves to do better, but an impartial, unbiased point of view would push us that much more. Maybe a "feedback swap" with the SWF or something would be possible. At any rate, with AS gone (hell, when AS was still here), this became my baby. This is not the critical situation it's been positioned as, and it's certainly not the end of an era. I don't agree with the OMG SHOOT COMMENTZ and I stand by my decision not to put that segment up. We know how he feels. All that promo was was a case of transference where his character was telling us how Hoff the person felt. It's unfortunate and I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm not letting two, possibly three mindsets ruin something that everyone else enjoys and has agreed to work out a story with. As for the mention of me being busy and taking a step back, or stepping down, well hell no. I doubt anyone else wants that either. I promised you guys a long time ago I was in it for the long haul, come hell or high water. Well hell's not that hot and the water's not too high, so there's definitely no danger of me jumping ship. I promise you that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I say, use the segment. In all impartiality, Hoff has done more than his fair share for the fed. It seems a little petty to say 'oh no, you can't put this on the show' to anyone Besides, if people want to shoot, then you'd better believe shoots will be shot back. It's the OAOAST way. I give it two weeks before someone's squashing 'Hodd' and 'Beck Sloane' anyway. I agree with this. Uncensored -- and I put the emphasis on uncensored -- Drek Stone interview. He's going to answer all the questions of his whereabouts. And be rest assured, he's going to offend people. Even people he's close with. Absolutely nothing will be held back. I would just like to have the opening slot of the show, and I ask that not one single word be removed from the interview. It would mean a lot to me. Yeah, fuck it. If Hoff's promo isn't going to be posted, I ain't wasting my time. So, if Drek is no longer a mod, how did he know we were considering not posting this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony149 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) So, if Drek is no longer a mod, how did he know we were considering not posting this? From Zack's earlier post: I know Adam (NGA) talks to them, and you can kindly feel free to let them know this if you'd like. Their actions bear no burden on our friendship, but I'm hoping you weren't brainwashed too. Edited October 6, 2005 by Tony149 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 It's up to you guys. Either we leave the segments off and deal with the whining, or we put the segments up, use the suggestion for damage control next week (that someone managed to get them to sacrifice themselves in hopes of embarrassing the company/Zack...this is a play on what Cornette did when he came back to OVW after Johnny Ace suspended him) and carry on from there, or we don't put up the segments and fight the whining over it. Either way, you know we've got something to deal with from that side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 High Road. The high road is that we air their promos, and work that into the angle, and let everything else fall where it may. Over time, I think they'll realize how much of a low road they took by airing grievances and complaints this way. Like you said Zack, the OATTOAST became yours a long time ago. I'll support any decision. The above is just my current thinking on the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I wanna see what Mr. Drek Stone had to say before anything goes up, so whoever he sends his segment to, please post it here. I'll finish the GPX/Usual Suspects segment accordingly. Also, I figure that when Hoff "leaves" and the belt is lying in the ring, that a pissed Calvin comes out, picks up the belt and berates Hoff for breaking the lineage of the belt. Cal, if you see this and you wanna write it up, go for it, otherwise I can do it and I know you trust me with your character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Umm, I know Eski wrote the dan black vs. prl match with the title shot stip already in. so maybe we should do that at the beginning? some of my segments might make more sense too... lemme know, i still got 2 hours left to write stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 We can just do that as the opening for next weeks show then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Ok, so Hoff sends me a copy of the PM he sends Zack....and doesn't bother to tell ME to my (virtual) face why he left me dangling about Dirty Deeds all month? Fuck him. "It isn't fun anymore" doesn't cut it. He could have at least talked to me and, if he didn't want to stick around, drop the belt to PK to avoid all this crap. I honestly don't care about feedback a whole lot. We never really critique each other anyway, so yeah, I'd rather have someone that isn't involved with the fed telling me how my match reads. It is true that the whole Civil War angle could have been planned out a bit better, but if you have a problem with that, you talk to people and not hide in a cave for a few months. I really have no personal issues with anyone here, but if you act like a bitch, I'll call you out on it. Seriously, it seems like some people are either too fucking proud or afraid to just send a PM or find the person on AIM and say "Hey, I've got a problem with something." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 PK's got the same main gripe the most of us do, so I think we can all agree that Hoff and Drek could have been men about this. As for the Civil War, I'll be the first one to admit things could have went better, but I think it was more of a case of people willing to do it, plus cramming other things on top of it. Too much at once. Then with the loss of CC, and now these two, well, it put a damper on things. So, here's my plan, starting with tonight: Damage control is the name of the game. If those segments air tonight, so be it. I'll have the GPX come out and cut a promo on the tag champs as planned, but I'll have them reveal that Drek is "a ringer" as planned. This will start the basis for the "who is motivating the Upstarts" angle. PK already has the segment planned for the tension between he and I, so that's fine. From this point on, we go on with what's been discussed, unless there is a problem with it (and I don't mean a petty one like OMG POPICK SHOULDN'T BE CHAMP). SJ will capture the gold and move into the Drek role for now, with the GPX flanking him. There will be turmoil in The Originals yet again, as now Black T are both vying for the World belt, sort of putting cracks in the foundation of that team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Okay, so im going to go ahead and write up Popick being told hes in a match next week for a shot tat the title Zack, are you going to have Cal explain why PRL/Dan is happening and the other match?(es)? Thanks man, just trying to get a handle on what I need to contribute post haste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 OH TEH DRAWMUH~! Hoff PMed me and I replied back pretty hostilily. But he probably won't see it for the next month, so whatever. For what it's worth, honestly, I see NGA's POV here. I don't think if I were in Zack's position that I'd reccomend Popick to be World Champion, because if we go on writing ability there's better options. But I have no big problem. SJ as champ is a quick fix. I think he'll admit that as much as anyone. If it weren't for Drek and Hoff's actions, we wouldn't be in this state. So, hopefully if Adam's still unhappy about this, he'll vent his anger at them instead of Zack who's damage limitating as fast as his preppy little legs will carry him and SJ who's benefitting. I would have volunteered gladly to be World Champion, but it doesn't make sense. That's the case for a lot of characters and people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Here's a bit of an idea to vent your feelings about Drek or whatnot in a somewhat useful way: Have Crystal show up from out of the blue, and let GPX yell at her about not being there, ect., and mention that her and so-called Upstarts like Drek aren't true to the movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
