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from Meltzer's No Mercy Preview:

 

*Bob Holly vs. Ken Kennedy - Vince loves Mr. Kennedy, being that he gave him his name (Kennedy being Vince's middle name). He's talked about Kennedy being in a main event level position at Wrestlemania, so that pretty well guarantees the result here

 

Let the mega push commence

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They are insane. Why do they feel the need to over expose the fuck out of ANYTHING that catches on the tiniest bit? I have no problem with Ken Kennedy, but to even CONSIDER him for a main event position six months after he debuted is lunacy.

Guest Fook_Theta
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Here's to hoping Nick Dinsmore comes back as "Mr. Linda McMahon."

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I like the guy. But I tend to hate these mega pushes for a guy as soon as they debut.

 

Brock Lesnar was a mega-push, this hasn't felt quite the same just yet. He's still in unimportant matches with Holly to go over.

 

But the hype and push machine is gearing up for Kennedy and that'll be irritating.

 

It's not like Kennedy is the worst option, he's better then most other new workers such as Lashley or previous workers still truing to figure it out (i.e Tomko)

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There's nothing wrong with pushing someone new, it's just that whenever anything even slightly catches on, they think they're on to the next Austin and proceed to shove it down the fans' throats.

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There's nothing wrong with pushing someone new, it's just that whenever anything even slightly catches on, they think they're on to the next Austin and proceed to shove it down the fans' throats.

I can't really say anything else that hasn't been said already, but if they wany Mr. Kennedy . . . kennedy to get over by saying over and over that so and so's announcing sucks, good luck trying.

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I like Kennedy a lot but he's not ready to headline WM yet. We need to see him in an extended match, maybe hang in the US division for a while.

 

His act is amusing but right now a bit one note, to main event he'd need to move beyond just announcing himself.

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He's overall better than pretty much every other new guy they've introduced over the past few years. I have no problem at all with them pushing him hard and fast. I usually hate it, like how they did so with Carito, Orton, etc... However, the difference here, is that I actually see something special in Kennedy. It's been years since I've seen a new guy with that "it" factor.

 

I'm more shocked that they aren't going to bury the guy than anything, since that's what they usually do to guys that I think could be something big.

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That's because nearly everyone they have introduced, in a similar position, has sucked. It's not an accomplishment to be better than Masters, Carlito, Morgan, O'Haire, etc.

 

Like I said, Kennedy's ok with me. He's slightly better in the ring than he's getting credit for, and he's decent on the mic. He could get over. HOWEVER, how the Hell can they consider him for the main event? One month after he's debuted, they get read to push to the top of the card. Screw that. There are better options. Pushing someone new doesn't have to be pushing someone whos's just debuted. How about acutally giving a decent push to Benoit, Eddie, Rey, Jericho, etc or any of the dozens of guys who would look like stars uf they were actually used right. Kenny may look like he has "it", but that's because he's put in a position to look like a star (kinda).

 

I don't know what I'm getting at here, but he shouldn't be near the main event.

 

I love Kennedy's theme music.

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Kenny may look like he has "it", but that's because he's put in a position to look like a star (kinda).

 

That's most certainly not the reason I say it looks like he has "it". All of the other guys have been put in positions to look like stars, and I don't see it in any of them so far.

 

Give it a years time. Most people here will be saying that Kennedy is the type of star that only comes around every 5-10 years.

Guest Thrashist
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I totally agree with those who say it's too soon, but let me just say that if there's a new talent, they might as well run with the momentum. The reason I say that is because I always think of a guy like Jericho, who was amazingly over and talented, and they decided they would go the traditional route of easing him into the midcard and then giving him a sure main event slot 'later'. Problem was, by the time WWE did decide to run with him, it was way too late (at least compared to his original momentum) and he had no main event credibility in the eyes of the fans. Same thing happened to RVD and a couple of others. But by contrast, look at a guy like Angle who got the mega push right away, and he has always been viewed as a top guy.

 

Now I'm sure you could think of a bunch of counterexamples so who knows. I will say I'd rather Kennedy in the main event than JBL again.

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"That's most certainly not the reason I say it looks like he has "it". All of the other guys have been put in positions to look like stars, and I don't see it in any of them so far."

 

Carlito has the "it" factor in spades ... maybe not as a wrestler but as a sports entertainer and a TV personality, absolutely.

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Carlito has the "it" factor in spades ... maybe not as a wrestler but as a sports entertainer and a TV personality, absolutely.

 

This is true, but that's not the complete overall package that I'm talking about. I love the Carlito character, but the guy is far too bland in the ring. On the other hand, Kennedy has the character and the skill, from what I've seen so far.

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Kennedy should become a long-term US Champ to help strengthen the belt first. He seems like a perfect fit for that role, and Benoit still seems too good for that division. Let Kennedy have a nice 5-6 month US run, then let him work some more midcard programs, occasionally flirting the ME (Like Cena facing Lesnar at Backlash 03), then ease him into a full time upper midcarder. These writers have no idea how to build anyone up without a mega push. It's sad, really. I think Kennedy has potential, but pushing him to the ME now would produce an Orton-like effect. Go slow, and let him get comfortable along the way.

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I totally agree with those who say it's too soon, but let me just say that if there's a new talent, they might as well run with the momentum. The reason I say that is because I always think of a guy like Jericho, who was amazingly over and talented, and they decided they would go the traditional route of easing him into the midcard and then giving him a sure main event slot 'later'.

Are you comparing Kennedy to Jericho or RVD? Because that's just wrong. Jericho & RVD were HUGELY over when they came into the fed. Kennedy is doing OK w/ a humorous schtick, but he's not nearly as over as RVD or Jericho were. He doesn't have this huge surge of momentum behind him that warrants them shooting him to the top of the card right now.

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Ok so since Orton is probably tier 2 and Kennedy is maybe tier 1, then Kennedy/Batista at WM? Then again since supposidly he has top star potential should they remove him from Jokedown and put him on Raw like they did with Carlito (even though he isn't considered as tier 1).

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Oh great. Here's the next guy who will get every accomplishment the company can pile on him in months then leave because he doesn't need them anymore.

 

Unlike Lesnar, where exactly can Kennedy go beyond the WWE? It seems more like Kennedy is getting the Kurt Angle debut push.

 

Arrogant mouth who has an undefeated streak going and they'll likely give him the US Title sooner or later...He'll be main eventing by Summer Slam just like Angle.

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Are you comparing Kennedy to Jericho or RVD?  Because that's just wrong.  Jericho & RVD were HUGELY over when they came into the fed.  Kennedy is doing OK w/ a humorous schtick, but he's not nearly as over as RVD or Jericho were.  He doesn't have this huge surge of momentum behind him that warrants them shooting him to the top of the card right now.

 

 

You can't even compare Jericho/RVD to Kennedy in that way. They were more over when they first debuted because they had a long term past, where they already had huge followings where they had been previously. This is Kennedy's first time on the big stage. I'd say he's doing pretty well in the being over department for what little time he's been around.

 

Kennedy should become a long-term US Champ to help strengthen the belt first. He seems like a perfect fit for that role, and Benoit still seems too good for that division.

 

I agree with that. I'd have Kennedy win the US title sometime pretty soon, maybe at SS, and have him just dominate the division from now until WM, where maybe we can get a champ vs. champ match. Meanwhile, go ahead and bump up Benoit to the main event level for now until WM...or hopefully beyond.

 

I don't think Batista will be the world champ come WM, I really don't. I see him in some sort of RAW vs. SD match instead of defending or going for the world title.

Guest Thrashist
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I didn't mean to directly compare the talents of Jericho/RVD and Kennedy, as of now they're not even close. But when I think about it, in a RELATIVE sense, the comparison still stands. Jericho and RVD had to go up against Austin, Rock, Foley, Angle, and Triple H for a spot at the top. Kennedy has to go up against the likes of Batista, JBL, Guerrero, Orton. Given the relative overness/talent of the first batch with the second batch, subtract that and you get the difference between Kennedy and Jericho's overness/talent. So considering Batista vs Orton is the only combination that has any WM potential, maybe Kennedy wouldn't be that bad of a choice.

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I hope this story isn't true. Kennedy shouldn't be anywhere near the main event until, maybe, SummerSlam of next year.

 

I like the idea of him as U.S. champ. I'd give him a feud with someone....someone other than Bob Holly.....then move him into a feud with Benoit over the U.S. strap. But main event by Mania? No. He should only just then be cementing his status as an upper-midcarder.

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Kennedy's one of my favorites on SD right now, but yeah, he should definitely win the US Title first and have the lengthy reign. He needs a secondary finisher, though. The Rolling Samoan Drop is too predictable. Anytime his opponent decides to go to the top rope, you know it's coming, especially when it's uncharacteristic of the opponent to go up in the first place (How often does Holly go there these days?)

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I think he does a swanton as well but haven't seen it much on OVW. Anyway I can think of a match for WM that would be a much bigger draw than Batista/Orton:

 

Batista vs. UT. It'd have all sorts of intrigue: Can Batista retain and end the streak? Can UT get that one last title run? It has more appeal to me than "Evolution also rans explode!"

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Orton/Taker was a pretty big draw as far as "Can the Streak End" goes, and Batista going in as a DEFENDING one year champ would definitly make it a bigger draw than Orton/Taker. If they can't do Brock/Batista, which looks like it's not happening, then Taker/Batista is the next biggest Smackdown! draw IMO.

Guest Andrew J.
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I predicted Kennedy would win the Royal Rumble; it's gonna happen, just you wait.

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