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Yes...because everybody that watches TNA or is a fan of AJ Styles (who, again, has had better matches in the past 6 months than most WWE workers have had in their whole careers) is automatically a TNA mark, and is taking it to your champ, Batista.

 

Shut up, rookie.

 

Rubin:

The people outside of WWE who say it fall into two groups, with one being those that have only seen clips (at the most) of the product, and the other being those that have watched it and aren't interested. Nobody has a real problem with those that have watched it and aren't interested, it's the other group - which Batista readily admitted he was in, mind you - that's annoying. It's similar to people that have never seen a full wrestling match in their life, or never even heard of all of the injuries associated with the business, going "how can you watch wrestling, it's SO fake and they can't act." Only, you know, it's worse, because it's a man who's apparently only had two matches above "eh" in his whole career who's saying other people, who have had MANY matches that have been in the running for MOTY, can't work.

 

It's like HHH saying Rey Mysterio Jr. can't work because he's acrobatic. Sorry, wrestling isn't about fake punching either, but yet they all get away with saying that those that try to entertain the fans the best way they can simply because they're in the business.

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Pretty frank way of saying dude's got stroke. Cool.

 

Guy makes about 99 good points, doesn't make it a full hundred because of an uninformed stance, speaks honestly, and is probably the closest we'll get to a real interview with anyone employed currently. Let's pounce him!

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A good read. Seems honest enough.

 

About the TNA/AJ stuff, he didn't go off like he could've. He sort of shot himself a little with saying it's not his thing, but admitting to not having seen any of the matches and just some clips. Still, he was diplomatic enough to where he didn't outright trash everyone. I just think he singled out AJ because he's the face of the X Division. The bit about storytelling is funny though because the stories Batista tells in the ring aren't very good.

 

Still, he's a company guy and no way he praises TNA, even if he did think they were putting on quality matches.

 

I like Batista and hope he keeps the title at least until after WM22 for the simple fact that he's one of the best guys who works better holding the title rather than chasing it.

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lmfao

 

am i the only one noticing these TNA marks are taking it to our champ Batista?

 

I can't speak for the actual TNA marks... But, yes, you are the only one noticing this. However, I'm certainly not the only one who thinks you can join Dave in the "please piss the fuck off" lineup. :)

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What did you TNA marks expect him to say? "Yeah, TNA is awesome. I love AJ Styles, and Jeff Jarrett is a great world champion. Vince McMahon is really scared by this new competition on Spike TV. I'm probably going to sign with TNA after my WWE contract is up, if they'll take me."

 

All he said was that he didn't care for AJ's type of matches. Get over yourselves.

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Guest Gary Busey

He grew up watching the WWE main event style, was mentored in the business by WWE main eventers and now he has a higher regard for that type of match because he works the WWE main event style? SHOCKING!

 

He spoke what he feels is the truth and seems like a very nice and reasonable person. I can see where he is coming from on all points even if I don't agree with everything.

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Guest Fishyswa

Wow, good to see no one's overly defensive about TNA.

 

I know 5 other people who I told to watch Impact who said the same thing, it seemed really fake and really contrived. It's not some out-there opinion that's total bullshit, it's a realistic opinion people have about the product.

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Guest Fishyswa

He said he saw clips and commented on the clips. I don't understand the problem.

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I remember after the ECW PPV this year Batista said he didn't care much for the ECW style either...then proceeded to do a violent Hell in a Cell match.

 

Batista is a mark for The Warlord...Chris Masters does his finisher. I'm telling you, The Warlord had an unreported effect on the young hosses of America. Is it wrong that I am a mark for Bulldog/Warlord matches?

 

Fishyswa, I agree about the criticism of the X division. I remember when they had that 1 cent PPV of X division highlights and my friend Chris called during it and said something like "This stuff is bullshit. It's all just guys doing wild spots, but not much to it beyond that."

 

Mind you, I actually like the X division matches when they are at their most insane and spotfest oriented. I'm sure Christopher Daniels and AJ Styles will have a fun match on this PPV coming up....but why should I care who wins? There's no real dramatic tension in most TNA stuff, no investment in who wins or loses. It's cool looking, I like it, and then I forget about it right after I see it.

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After watching Impact on SpikeTV last night it was confirmed: AJ Styles has the worst punches going in wrestling today. Angle and Mysterio have NOTHING on him.

 

Oh please, he still has to compete with Jeff Hardy. The only person who comes close to beating Hardy in that race is, surprise surprise, Lita. AJ will just have to settle for 3rd.

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Wow, good to see no one's overly defensive about TNA.

 

I know 5 other people who I told to watch Impact who said the same thing, it seemed really fake and really contrived. It's not some out-there opinion that's total bullshit, it's a realistic opinion people have about the product.

 

So are these people WWE marks? Because the WWE is about as fake and contrived as they get. Oh wait, the fake and contrived WWE matches get praised as MOTYCs. I'm sorry.

 

What's with this trend of guys trashing other workers, even if those workers are superior? First it's Triple H and CM Punk, now Batista and AJ. When does Kurt Angle start slamming Samoa Joe for not being able to work?

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When Samoa Joe becomes the NWA World champion and the 'Net is all about "how amazing would an Angle/Joe match be?!"

 

Invader:

No, we're not expecting him to praise TNA, or even just one of their workers. But we are expecting him to be a little smarter in his choice of words, considering he ADMITTED he'd only seen clips (and, most likely, these clips will have been the HIGHSPOTS of his matches) and said that the guy can't tell a story. I got a better story from the whole Styles/Lynn feud in '02 (and I'll readily admit that those matches were pretty much just spotfests) than any feud in WWE that didn't involve Benoit, Angle, or Eddie in the past few years. Of course, I readily admit to being a mark for AJ Styles, and have been since July '02 when I first saw his work on a steady basis, so hey.

 

Fishy:

Again, your friends saw the actual matches, not just clips of his work. Would you form an opinion on whether or not you thought some girl was hot because she has a cute nose? No, of course not. It's basically the same thing going on here: Batista saw the girl's hands and said she wasn't hot without seeing her whole body.

 

Also, I wouldn't say AJ has the worst punches. Definitely bad, though. The only time his punches look even half decent is when he does the springboard flying punch, and that's only because he has his whole body behind him to make it look somewhat decent. He's one of the guys that should stick to forearms, since he throws those good.

 

But yeah, let's talk about Batista again, since there's a TNA folder next door.

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So are these people WWE marks? Because the WWE is about as fake and contrived as they get. Oh wait, the fake and contrived WWE matches get praised as MOTYCs. I'm sorry.

 

No, boom casuals. The average american fan will buy into a fued more for the intensity and drama then the flashy-ness of what they can do in the ring. It's why people will react more to Matt and Edge slugging for a minute straight than Spanky and London quickly trading reversals.

 

What's with this trend of guys trashing other workers, even if those workers are superior? First it's Triple H and CM Punk, now Batista and AJ. When does Kurt Angle start slamming Samoa Joe for not being able to work?

 

I can totally understand the viewpoint, the only gauge they'll use is business, when they're so far up it's easy to just say "I make more money so I'm better".

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Guest Fishyswa

"Would you form an opinion on whether or not you thought some girl was hot because she has a cute nose?"

 

I think it'd be more like seeing her shake her ass, because he had to of seen wrestling in these clips, and I don't see how it's unfair to form an opinion on that. It's not like he saw a clip of AJ walking down the ramp and came to the conclusion.

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After watching Impact on SpikeTV last night it was confirmed: AJ Styles has the worst punches going in wrestling today. Angle and Mysterio have NOTHING on him.

 

Oh please, he still has to compete with Jeff Hardy. The only person who comes close to beating Hardy in that race is, surprise surprise, Lita. AJ will just have to settle for 3rd.

Scotty 2 Hotty has some horrendously bad punches.

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I've tried watching TNA the past couple weeks to see what the fuss is about. From what I've seen it sucks.

What, in particular don't you like, maybe we can agree or disagree with you, but saying something sucks does not contribute to a conversation very much.

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Guest MikeSC
Yes...because everybody that watches TNA or is a fan of AJ Styles (who, again, has had better matches in the past 6 months than most WWE workers have had in their whole careers) is automatically a TNA mark, and is taking it to your champ, Batista.

 

Shut up, rookie.

 

Rubin:

The people outside of WWE who say it fall into two groups, with one being those that have only seen clips (at the most) of the product, and the other being those that have watched it and aren't interested. Nobody has a real problem with those that have watched it and aren't interested, it's the other group - which Batista readily admitted he was in, mind you - that's annoying. It's similar to people that have never seen a full wrestling match in their life, or never even heard of all of the injuries associated with the business, going "how can you watch wrestling, it's SO fake and they can't act." Only, you know, it's worse, because it's a man who's apparently only had two matches above "eh" in his whole career who's saying other people, who have had MANY matches that have been in the running for MOTY, can't work.

 

It's like HHH saying Rey Mysterio Jr. can't work because he's acrobatic. Sorry, wrestling isn't about fake punching either, but yet they all get away with saying that those that try to entertain the fans the best way they can simply because they're in the business.

Really? No problem at all?

 

And maybe, just maybe, Batista is a fan of power, high-impact work and not of high-flying.

 

To quote Cornette --- a well-done punch will have more impact with a fan than any high spot you can hit.

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Guest MikeSC
What, in particular don't you like, maybe we can agree or disagree with you, but saying something sucks does not contribute to a conversation very much.

Again, the treatment of me rather significantly disproves that assumption.

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Well, one thing I don't particularly care for about TNA is the actual look of the show itself on basic levels. I preferred the old Nashville shows since it had a more gritty venue that seemed like a more polished ECW Arena and of course because they had a real ring and not this 6 sided thing.

 

In regards to TNA are there any actual storylines going on right now aside from the Jarrett/AMW against whoever? Their PPV on Sunday looks very promising on paper but then I look and don't really see a whole lot of heated issues or angles. Jarrett/Nash? I don't really understand why Nash even HAS a title shot in storyline terms and the announcers even seem at a loss. The most heated issue is between the Dudleys and AMW from what I've seen, but do you want a tag match to have the most heated feud? Daniels/AJ should be a very good match but I have zero investment in either guy so the winner doesn't really matter much. And will someone please explain to me the continued push of Michael Shane (Matt Bentley)? I know he's Shawn's cousin but it's like he's getting a nepotism push when his famous relative is in another promotion. He's the easy weak link in that Ultimate X match yet why do I have the ominous feeling he'll win?

 

Those are just some thoughts I've had about the first few weeks of the Spike show. I'll give the PPV a chance since it looks good matchwise, not sure about future PPVs after that though.

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I think it'd be more like seeing her shake her ass, because he had to of seen wrestling in these clips, and I don't see how it's unfair to form an opinion on that. It's not like he saw a clip of AJ walking down the ramp and came to the conclusion.

The problem with making judgments based on clips alone is that for the most part, these clips are taken out of context of the actual matches. When you're trying to sell the in-ring product, of course you're not gonna focus on the overall story being told in the matches, you're gonna focus on specific highlights/highspots. WWE does the same thing, and based on clips alone you could make the same statement about them, and for the most part we know that's not true. I don't think anyone's expecting him to put TNA over, but if you're gonna criticize, it'd be nice to have something concrete to base that criticism on.

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He really should have picked someone other than AJ to be his blast on the X division.

 

It seems like AJ has become the buzzword for what WWE thinks of lesser wrestling in TNA.

 

He's seen clips...and decides that AJ doesn't know how to tell a story in the ring?

 

This will go right up with the "CM Punk can't work" stuff from last month.

 

WWE is lame and boring 99% of the time...so anything that is different from that is inherently bad.

 

...

 

And the Boogeyman debuted on Smackdown this week.

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"That AJ Styles doesn't know how to wrestle."

 

**Watches AJ Styles vs. LowKi from July 17th, 2002. Watches Batista vs. anybody.**

 

Hahaha...rriiiiiight...

 

Also, I'll have to reiterate:

If you've seen a full TNA show and aren't impressed? Hey, that's cool. It's definitely a different style, and Impact doesn't showcase the best work of the roster since they have to condense all of their matches into under 10 minutes to fit more than 2 on there. The PPVs usually have very good matches all throughout the card (save for those that we all know are going to be terrible, but it's the same with any promotion) with enough time to develop a flow to the match.

 

Mike:

The reason you're not treated with respect in the TNA folder is that you're CONSTANTLY being a prick about a lot of things. Most of your issues you know I agree with you on (Jarrett, the handling of the more over members of the roster that aren't X-Division, certain matches, etc.), but stop trying to just flat-out say "I'm right and you're wrong" all the time. It's all in the attitude and not in the content, man.

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