gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Today in my speech class (high school) I wouldn't stand up for the pledge and I was took to the dean's office were I was called unAmerican and told I should move to Canada. They didn't seem to understand that I don't legally have to stand up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Damn You Helmsley Report post Posted October 17, 2005 The brochure for Guantanamo Bay is on it's way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Canada's pretty much better anyway. Take that advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Provided you don't mind shitty medical care, snotty citizens who are convinced they're funny, and a military that would get routed by a stiff breeze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Why would you not stand up for the pledge anyway? Was it for any particular moral reason, or were you just doing it to stand out as the rebellious kid in the class? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I believe in the seperation of church and state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Provided you don't mind shitty medical care, snotty citizens who are convinced they're funny, and a military that would get routed by a stiff breeze. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Personally, I'd call you a whiny little bitch. Those are real unAmericans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I believe in the seperation of church and state. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do realize that standing for the pledge has nothing to do with this, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 When it directly refers to and thus endorses Christainity it does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I think I just saw an ACLU lawyer lurking around here. Just don't say "under God." Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I'm not asking to ban it, just asking to be allowed to quietly sit with out being told I MUST stand up. What's wrong with me sitting quietly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 No, it doesn't really. First of all, I'm calling shenanagans on your story, because no principal would be dumb enough to subject himself to the shitstorm something like this would cause. Second, standing for the pledge is simply a sign of respect for your nation, and it has nothing to do with separation of church and state. Separation of church and state has nothing to do with the pledge, really, either; maybe they shouldn't have "under God" in it, but that doesn't make it necessarily religious anyways. You're just being an ornery, snotty brat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Tyler, the dark side is calling you: I'd make fun of him for the fact all he would have to do in regards to his defense of "I believe in the seperation of church and state" is to NOT SAY THOSE WORDS DURING THE PLEDGE, but alas I was one of those snot-nosed commies that refused to stand for a time in high school. When it directly refers to and thus endorses Christainity it does. What makes you think "God" means Jesus? Allah doesn't like it when "God" doesn't refer to him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I just called the Indiana branch of the ACLU and they informed that the school can not make me stand and that they would get back to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 You were within your rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Yeah, who needs new textbooks when the school district has more important matters to tend to like UNDER GOD. Oh, and like I said before, I'm defending you on this just because for a week or so in school I refused to say the pledge. Wasn't for religious reasons though; I just wanted to be a rebel. Don't worry, when you grow up you'll understand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Why should he have to stand!? He's not causing a ruckus sitting there. I didn't like to stand during "OH CANADA" and it was stupid when someone made me. You HAVE to stand and pay your country respect? Patriotism is so stupid sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Quit being such a bitch you cock sucking asshat. I hate organized religion, but i hate little shits like you even more. It does not hurt anyone to just stand during the pledge, it will not be the downfall of our society, just suck it up and do it. Eat donkey shit you rimjob giving rectal wort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Quit being such a bitch you cock sucking asshat. I hate organized religion, but i hate little shits like you even more. It does not hurt anyone to just stand during the pledge, it will not be the downfall of our society, just suck it up and do it. Eat donkey shit you rimjob giving rectal wort. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does not hurt anyone for him to sit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I just called the Indiana branch of the ACLU and they informed that the school can not make me stand and that they would get back to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I call someone caught in a lie and trying to back himself up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Cock sucking Asshat...I think I'll use that. Secondly, who is to say that the God in "under god" has to refer strictly to the Christian version of God? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 *clears throat...* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Don't worry, when you grow up you'll understand... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's right. Mike was banned for a reason for Christ sake's, let's stop allowing him to find these loopholes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I don't buy the "just don't say under god" part. It's part of the pledge. If you say "the pledge" then you say "under god". I can't understand for the life of me why we can't replace that with something like Justice or Liberty. There isn't a rule about using the same word twice in pledges I don't think. And remember, the most american thing you can do is exercize every little freedom you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Just mumble it, that's what I did in high school. Of course, that's because school started at 7:30 in the morning and I was only about 1/4 awake. Seriously, it's two little words. Once you graduate, you probably won't have to recite it ever again so just deal with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 I got kicked out of a football game in the eighth grade for refusing to stand up during the national anthem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted October 17, 2005 When it directly refers to and thus endorses Christainity it does. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How does "under god" directly refer to christianity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tekcop 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2005 Man, KKK and Tyler have been great in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
