Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Detroit at Cleveland Green Bay at Minnesota Indianapolis at Houston Kansas City at Miami New Orleans at St. Louis Pittsburgh at Cincinnati San Diego at Philadelphia San Francisco at Washington Dallas at Seattle Baltimore at Chicago Buffalo at Oakland Denver at N.Y. Giants Tennessee at Arizona Monday, Oct. 24 N.Y. Jets at Atlanta - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Much better lineup on paper than last week. Four good games, plus the Green Bay-Minnesota battle to take over the division lead at 2-4 should be amusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Actually, even if Chicago loses next week, they'll be in first since they're king of the shitpile (2-0 in division) EDIT: Oops, forgot Detroit has the same record... but Chicago would win a tiebreaker at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 At this rate, I think 5-11 will win that division. 6-10, tops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Here's some predictions: Detroit at Cleveland--Lions seem a bit better so I'll go with them by about 7. Green Bay at Minnesota--MN is BAD, real bad. Packers have mostly lost tough games, so I'll take them here as the lesser of two evils. Indianapolis at Houston--Colts usually have a tough game in Houston for some reason, but should prevail here against the hapless Texans. Kansas City at Miami--KC to get a decent road win here. New Orleans at St. Louis--Rams should get back on track in a wild, high scoring affair. Pittsburgh at Cincinnati--Big game for the Bengals. That said it's a bigger one for the Steelers, so if Roethisberger is healthy I'll go with them in a very narrow win. San Diego at Philadelphia--Eagles should get back on track as poor SD becomes the best 3-4 team in history. San Francisco at Washington--Redskins make every game interesting but should win here in easier fashion. Dallas at Seattle--Good one here. If this was in Dallas I'd take the Cowboys but it's in Seattle so they should win a tough contest. Baltimore at Chicago--What did the world do to deserve this? Bears since they have shown some signs of decency. Buffalo at Oakland--I have no idea how the Bills are 3-3, but if Moss is out they might well win here. Denver at N.Y. Giants--The Broncos SO need to come back down to earth and they likely will here. Eli does his brother a favor in the AFC home field race. Tennessee at Arizona--Bleh. I'll go with the Titans since they've been better of late. Monday, Oct. 24 N.Y. Jets at Atlanta--Falcons should win here but closer than expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Detroit at Cleveland - Detroit's D will probably carry them again. Green Bay at Minnesota - I honestly have no fucking clue why Tice is still employed at this point. I guess getting stomped at home against a division rival won't change things. Indianapolis at Houston - Colts will sack Carr 30 times and celebrate after each one like they just won the Superbowl. Kansas City at Miami - If only because I've picked too many road teams already. New Orleans at St. Louis - This is if Bulger is out. Pittsburgh at Cincinnati - A certainty if Ben is out, 50/50 if he plays. San Diego at Philadelphia - Close game, perhaps GOTW. San Francisco at Washington - Alex Smith might not survive the game. Dallas at Seattle Baltimore at Chicago - Final score: Orioles 6, White Sox 3 Buffalo at Oakland Denver at N.Y. Giants - Agreed with cabbageboy; Denver should have completely stomped NE, but they didn't. Tennessee at Arizona - Bleh. Why is Arizona of all teams getting multiple Sunday night games? Monday, Oct. 24 N.Y. Jets at Atlanta - The Jets quest to win the Matt Leinart Sweepstakes continues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I wonder, for the Cincinnati/Pittsburgh showdown Who needs the win more? Obviously, the records show that the Bengals being 5-1, can afford a lost more then the 4-2 Steelers but it's a mental issue here. Cincinnati has been called out on it's weak schedule (nothing they can do about that) and because they haven't played anyone this season aside Jacksonville (their lone loss). The belief was before the season, that Cincy needs to beat Pittsburgh to be "legit" and I believe that's correct on certain levels. Pittsburgh needs a win obviously to stay on track with the Bengals for the division race because it's a dogfight for the wild-card. Big Ben Vs Carson is a match-up that I believe we'll be following for years to come. This is essentially round one of the showdown (I won't consider last season, because Carson had yet to come into his own). To me, not just as a fan of the Bengals but rather a fan of football...Im most intrigued by this game above all the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 19, 2005 If Ahman Green can't rush for over 100 yards against Minne-ha-ha this Sunday, I don't think he ever will again. Green Bay's coming off a bye week and a 52-3 win over a decent team the week before, so I'd be quite disappointed if Green Bay can't pull off a sweep of the Viqueens, but then again it is a hell of a rivalry and the games have usually been close between them, so it could be better than most people expect. San Diego-Philly, Pittsburgh-Cincinatti, Denver-NY, and even Dallas-Seattle or possibly KC-Miami could all be great games as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 The Philly/SD game concerns me this week. There are two outcomes, IMO: a.) the Philly defense realizes that the season actually started and plays as a great, very pissed off unit and stomps them or b.) the pass rush still does not come around and LT and Gates have a field day. It is a very dangerous game as the Eagles have historically had a hard time covering quality TEs (I'm excluding the Chiefs game since Gonzalez hasn't done anything yet this season) and they are up against the best here. And LT in the openfield on passes against Jones or Adams will very likely make me want to cry. This needs to be the game where Philly comes out early and establishes momentum, the last thing they need after the Dallas debacle is another slow start at home. I'm seeing a shootout in this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 If Julius Jones is back, Dallas will win. If it's Anthony Thomas, they are screwed. The defense has actually finally found a way to stop people. Dallas needs a running attack, like every damn team in football. Losing Adams though is a huge blow to their offensive line but I don't see it being a big deal against the Seahawks. Should be a good game either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Flozell Adams has been playing like shit for the most part this season, so I'm not all that worried that his being out will be a terrible loss for the Cowboys. Julius needs to get healthy though. The offense was really out of sync without him against NY. They'll need to be sharp to win this week because Seattle is going to score a few points. The Dallas D, despite a couple inexcusable lapses, has been ferocious these last two weeks. 8 sacks, and they've kept two good teams in check. Demarcus Ware can play and Chris Canty looks like a big steal in the 4th round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 my apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere already, you can direct me to the appropriate link, but what's everyone's take on Tedy Bruschi? Personally, I think he should forget about this season and concentrate on next season...sure the NE season isn't a total wash and I still think they have as good a chance as anyone in the AFC not named the Colts to make the SB, but that chance is small, why risk something when it's not even surefire? Come back next season when injured key players return, offseason improvements are made, etc. etc. Sure, you love the game, but why risk it on THIS mess of a season? oh and even without Moss, the Bills will find some way to lose in Oakland, just like they did last season...speaking of which, how does the scheduling system work, how does Oakland get back-to-back home games against a non-divisional team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Lushus, people here (in Massachusetts, not TSM) are tripping over their dicks to rush and celebrate his return. Unless he can play CB, RB or O-line, he's not going to help the Pats fill their biggest holes. Yes, having him back will enable them to move Beisel to the bench and Brown to the bench and/or the OLB spot that fits him better ... but he's not going to turn around this D by any stretch of the imagination. As a Pats fan I'd much rather see Seymour or Harrison back in the line-up than Bruschi (yes, I know I'm comparing apples to oranges injuries-wise). My personal belief: he's healthy enough to come back (per his doctors) and obviously wants to come back, so I have no issue with him doing so. Having said that, though, I don't think he should come back ever. Only one pro athlete has ever come back and regained top form after suffering a stroke, and that 'athlete' was a rodeo guy. Bruschi's got a lot of living left to do outside of football. Coming back might be what he wants to do, but I don't think it's the right decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I suppose, if he's healthy and has been cleared, sure, but I can't help but go back to the visual of him playing on the practice field with his kids...why risk losing that, you know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I can only guess that he blames himself for the way that this season's gone ... and thus he's rushing back in as quickly as he can to try and salvage the season. While his being out is part of the problem (the aforementioned Beisel & Brown are killing the Pats when it comes to stopping the run) I can't see his return doing much to help the team. I'm with you, Lushus: being there to watch your kids grow up should take precedence over anything else. He's already guaranteed himself a spot as a Patriots legend (and there's really no chance that he's a HOF caliber player even if he comes back) ... why risk everything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Ben is 100% certain to start Sunday, so take that into account with your predictions. He's "probable" and both Cowher and he have said through the media that he's starting this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 after last week, I'd say Ben would have to be missing limbs before Cowher put Maddox back in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 after last week, I'd say Ben would have to be missing limbs before Cowher put Maddox back in... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Ben would have to be dead for Cowher to put Maddox back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Detroit at Cleveland - Cleveland has a real shot to win this one. Detroit still seems to struggle on the road. Green Bay at Minnesota - Green Bay is bad, but shows signs of life now and then and Favre can still go. Minny is just dead. I usually am not a fan of firing a coach mid-season, but it has to be done in this case. Tice has no control of that team on the field, forget off of it. Indianapolis at Houston - Hope Indy enjoys this undefeated run, 'cause they have brutal second-half schedule. Kansas City at Miami - Can this game even be played with Florida about to be levelled by Wilma? Good thing Tampa's on a bye. New Orleans at St. Louis - Saints can't win on the road. Pittsburgh at Cincinnati - Game of the week, if Roethlisberger is back at least. San Diego at Philadelphia - This matchup is also interesting. Philly has had struggled getting going all season, and a week off might fix the problem or make it worse. San Francisco at Washington - Its going to be a fantastic week for Santana Moss owners. Dallas at Seattle - Seattle is very good at home, and Alexander is fast becoming the second best player in the NFL behind Tomlinson, if he isn't already. Baltimore at Chicago - I'm hoping for a 0-0 tie. While that is unlikely, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bears get outscored by the White Sox. Buffalo at Oakland - Oakland is crap, but I have a feeling that the honeymoon is over for Holcomb this week. Denver at N.Y. Giants - Giants certainly have a shot, although Denver seems to be the media darlings right now. Tennessee at Arizona - By Monday, I'll have forgotten this game even happened. Monday, Oct. 24 N.Y. Jets at Atlanta - Monday Night Massacre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 after last week, I'd say Ben would have to be missing limbs before Cowher put Maddox back in... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Ben would have to be dead for Cowher to put Maddox back in. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know Maddox is back to bench warming and all, but come on, there was no excuse for that kind of performance last Sunday...the rest of the team kept them in it, literally HE was the one that lost it for them...all he had to do was wing it...he's been playing football far too long to look like Eli Manning V.1 out there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I'm fine with demolishing the current Vikings and starting anew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Oh shit, Bears play Baltimore? So much for enjoying a Bears game this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Oh shit, Bears play Baltimore? So much for enjoying a Bears game this weekend. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When is a Bears game ever enjoyable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Go away, Choken One. Not like you've never had a shitty team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 If you ever saw a Packers/Bears game from the 60's, those games were good and enjoyable. I think when Sweetness was playing, games were enjoyable and so it was when Gale Sayers was around. Yeah, there was some very exciting games, and I think the Bears made the playoffs more than once since 1990. The Bears have a chance this weekend since Baltimore has a horrible offense, and the defense lost Ed Reed. I think the Bears could beat them. Lets see who will be on the chopping block after the season: Tice, Capers, Brian The Brain and Maurici will be game after this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Yeah I am mystified at the suggestion some are making about the Colts running the table this year. Take a look at that 2nd half schedule...at NE, at Cincy, Pittsburgh, at Jacksonville, San Diego, at Seattle. If anything they'll be lucky to better last year's 12-4 mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 The Colts always seem to lose that one in Jacksonville. I think there's a chance at bettering last year's record, but no, they certainly won't run the table. And I laugh at anyone who tells me that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 20, 2005 If you ever saw a Packers/Bears game from the 60's, those games were good and enjoyable. I think when Sweetness was playing, games were enjoyable and so it was when Gale Sayers was around. Yeah, there was some very exciting games, and I think the Bears made the playoffs more than once since 1990. The Bears have a chance this weekend since Baltimore has a horrible offense, and the defense lost Ed Reed. I think the Bears could beat them. Lets see who will be on the chopping block after the season: Tice, Capers, Brian The Brain and Maurici will be game after this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Personally, I'd love to see Mariucci run out of Detroit and into Green Bay (fuck off Sherman), since Mooch grew up a Packers fan. Also because Detroit's problems have nothing to do with the coaching, that falls squarely on the shoulders on the awfulness of their quarterback, their defense just not playing up to what they should, and, well, I just can't think of anything else, but it's definitely not the coaching. Mariucci kicked ass in San Fran, and should've done the same in Detroit, but I'm afraid he's stuck with Joey "Black Hole of Suck" Harrington. Had Jeff Garcia not gotten hurt during preseason, I think we'd be seeing a hell of a Lions offense right now, with Harrington on the bench awaiting to become a future Vinny Testaverde somewhere else. Tice and Capers are definitely gone after this year. I feel bad for David Carr, I think he's got the tools necessary to succeed in the league, and to take the beating he has over the past couple seasons attributes to his toughness. Capers hasn't done shit with this team, and it shouldn't be forgotten he had one good season in Carolina before stinking up the joint for a while (and that one good season was a fluke as well). Tice, we already know HAS to be gone, especially after the awful start the team has had (if it continues anyways), and the fact he never should have been the long-term solution at head coach to begin with. But hey, that's the Vikings organization for you. Perhaps Jim Haslett would've been on the chop block as well had it not been for all the hardships his team has had to go through.. but hardships or not, the guy has been a fucking crybaby all season long, at times warranted, though most often not. He's taken a perennial underachieving team, and kept them that way, though at least they hover around .500 instead of 6-10 constantly like before. And who the fuck are you talking about with "Brian the Brain"? I just went through all 32 NFL head coaches off the top of my head and couldn't come up with who you were talking about. Then I realized, it's a bit sad I know that, but still frustrated I have no idea who you were talking about. EDIT- Whoops, guess I skipped over the AFC North because I figured.. wait a minute Marvin Lewis, Cowher, and they just hired Romeo Crennel, ah nevermind.. Thanks to bravesfan who pointed out Brian Billick. That's one I'm a bit iffy on. He's shown to be a hell of a good coach and keep his team in control- most of the time- but his "offensive genius" back with the most awesome offense that I'd ever seen over the course of one season (the `98 Vikings) has never shown through during his stint with the Ravens. Of course, it should be noted he's gone with the strengths of the team and done the best he could with that, but Billick hasn't been the kind of coach to put his stamp on a team, ala Mike Martz for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Dolphins/Chiefs was moved up to Friday night @ 7 PM to beat the hurricane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 And who the fuck are you talking about with "Brian the Brain"? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
