Should TNA do away with Ultimate X?

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Ever since the first Ultimate X match, I've noticed an obvious flaw with the X falling down rather easily when the wrestlers try to grab it, then the ring crew has to make them wait so they can put the X back up on the cable before resuming the match. This takes up too much time and takes the crowd out of the match. Not only that, but it makes TNA look bush-league when something unplanned concerning a gimmick match happens frequently.

 

With the way BFG's Ultimate X match happened, especially when the X fell off the cable into Petey Williams' hand, in addition to the X falling off earlier, of course, it's been even more obvious to me that I think Ultimate X should be retired, and TNA should come up with a better X-Division match concept. Either that, or just do regular X-Division matches.

[2GOLD 0]

Just attach the X to an actual belt instead of the cheap ass tape or whatever they use. There are plenty of stronger things that can be used to hold the X up instead of just cutting out an entire match.

[Guest aural angel dust]

They should use a keychain (as pictured, couldn't really find a better one) to make sure the X stays up and allowing it to be easily unhooked when necessary. It'll probably be too small a device to notice on camera also. Which is nice.

 

At least Petey got Razor's Edged into something, I'm happy.

 

[Guest JesusJuiced]

Uh, it's fallen off once in the last seven matches. They do need to get rid of the red X though.

[Epic Reine 0]

Yea, that happened during the very first Ultimate X match too where the belt fell twice and they tried to cover it up.

 

I really just think they should do away with the big X and put something else up there like a briefcase holding a contract to an X title shot and use a steel cable to hold it up.

[Guest Jack Potts]

This is the first time I've seen an Ultimate X match. I wasn't too impressed. There's only so much to do while pulling yourself hand over hand across a cable. Also, there are only so many ways to knock or pull your opponent of said cable. I also think the big red "X" looks cheap.

 

They should rethink the event.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

Ultimate X is far too entertaining when pulled off well to do away with it after a few poor showings. It's just one of the drawbacks of being live, live television shows have bloopers and live wrestling shows have them as well. Shouldn't cancel a television show after a blooper, shouldn't cancel a specialty match after a blooper.

[Silence 0]

Ultimate X is far too entertaining when pulled off well to do away with it after a few poor showings.  It's just one of the drawbacks of being live, live television shows have bloopers and live wrestling shows have them as well.  Shouldn't cancel a television show after a blooper, shouldn't cancel a specialty match after a blooper.

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The only "really good" Ultimate X match I can think of is the one that had Daniels and Low-Ki in it a year ago.

 

Other than that, if TNA plans to continue Ultimate X, they should find better material to hold the X up, or do away with the X and replace it with some other object.

[Steviekick 0]

They should propably get one of the carabiner/mountainclimber clips to hang the X from.

[TNABaddboi 0]

The only "really good" Ultimate X match I can think of is the one that had Daniels and Low-Ki in it a year ago.

 

I like that match, but IMO, the one from this year with AJ, Petey Williams and Chris Sabin was even better. So that'd make at least two really good ones. And IIRC, there was nothing wrong with the AJ/Michael Shane/Frankie Kazarian one either, other than the non-finish. No technical screw ups though.

[RedJed 0]

Styles v. Sabin v. Williams was another excellent Ultimate X match.....

 

I certainly dont think they should do away with the concept, but if they keep it to only doing it maybe twice a year, that will help. If the guys are creative, which most are that would be in the match, it works.

 

Last night was a bad example of it all, rehash of the first Ultimate X when that happened. Still dont know if that was the real finish, as if it was, and it leads to a rematch at the Spike special, I guess I can see why they did it, but regardless it did certainly make them look bush league or at very best, made the match look unattractive to the masses.

[Magus 0]

hmmm... Keep it, but do it way less often. And only do it for the X Division Title Belt, or something other than a cardboard "X". Williams, Sabin, and Bentley could've had just as entertaining a match (or more) if it had been a normal 3-way without the Ultimate X gimmick.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

The only Ultimate X match I've cared for has been UX2, and that's because LowKi and Daniels were in it. It was also the ONE TIME where the match didn't come across as a 100% clusterfuck spotfest, mostly thanks to Daniels and LowKi again.

 

But yeah, just do away with it.

[Astro101 0]

I've always looked forward to Ultimate X matches and so do a lot of other people, so I don't think they should do away with it. I think that they should have a better way of hanging that X, though.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Better ways of hanging the X:

 

1. Cable ABOVE the criss-cross cables that hangs from the ceiling.

 

2. A better clip.

 

3. Padlocked chain wrapped around the intersection of the two cables that runs through a loop on the back of the X.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

You'd think after the first match it fell in, they'd find a safer way to hang it.

 

It's pure logic.

 

So... the only explination could be....

 

JARRETT IS USING HIS PULL TO MAKE SURE THE X IS NOT PROPERLY HUNG, AS HE WANTS THE X DIVISION STARS TO LOOK BAD!

 

But no, don't do away with the match, just hang the damn thing properly.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

You know a spot that I want to see done in an Ultimate X match?

 

Someone climbing on top of the cables of the X and doing a high move...like a 450 or a SSP...onto someone either in the ring or on the arena floor.

[slimm44 0]

You know a spot that I want to see done in an Ultimate X match?

 

Someone climbing on top of the cables of the X and doing a high move...like a 450 or a SSP...onto someone either in the ring or on the arena floor.

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March 2005 - Destination X, Christopher Daniels hit the Best Moonsault Ever on Elix Skipper and AJ Styles.

 

I thought the match was alright, it lost steam when it fell down the first time, then when it fell again to end the match, I had to think that was how it was supposed to go down because Bentley and Sabin left irate. Whether it was legit that the ending was botched or not, it was the only downside of the night IMO.

[qdes 0]

I hope they make the botch part of the storyline.

[Guest Coffey]

I think they should do away with the match. For the most part, it's never anything except disappointing. It was a bad idea from the get go. Stick with Six-Sides of Steel as the TNA gimmick match.

[Magus 0]

I think its pretty innovative actually. The only flaws are that not everybody can do it (ex: Joe), and the guys have to keep coming up with psycho spots to keep it fresh.

 

Monster's Ball, on the other hand, needs to go.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Yes...because any stipulation that gives us the best match of the show on TNA's "biggest" show to date SURELY needs to be gone with...

 

Monster's Ball is staying. It's really nothing more than a glorified hardcore match, but I dig the name. Get rid of the "locked in a room for 24 hours" bull, though. Hold it every now and then with the winner getting a World title shot, or something, or have it be a tournament, and voila.

[Magus 0]

Yes...because any stipulation that gives us the best match of the show on TNA's "biggest" show to date SURELY needs to be gone with...

 

Monster's Ball is staying. It's really nothing more than a glorified hardcore match, but I dig the name. Get rid of the "locked in a room for 24 hours" bull, though. Hold it every now and then with the winner getting a World title shot, or something, or have it be a tournament, and voila.

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That's pretty much why I think it should go. Locked in a room with no food/drink/light of day is a pretty stupid gimmick for a match. I'm all for hardcore weapons matches, but don't add an unnecessary gimmick to it.

 

I like the name, though, and they should always have it as a 3-5 man match.

[Guest SavageRulz]

Its strange. The Ultimate X matches are usually either totally spectacular, or a complete trainwreck. No in between.

[Cuban Linx 0]

Looking past whether the match is any good or not, TNA needs to put Ultimate X away for a while just due to the sheer overkill of the match. They're getting towards WWE 2001/2002 Ladder Match levels of overuse, it's TNA's special match so naturally they want to use it, particularly with the FSN/Spike TV restarts, but if they keep doing it so often it will quickly stop being special and just become 'another' gimmick match.

[Guest P-Any]

Ever since the first Ultimate X match, I've noticed an obvious flaw with the X falling down rather easily when the wrestlers try to grab it, then the ring crew has to make them wait so they can put the X back up on the cable before resuming the match.  This takes up too much time and takes the crowd out of the match.  Not only that, but it makes TNA look bush-league when something unplanned concerning a gimmick match happens frequently.

 

With the way BFG's Ultimate X match happened, especially when the X fell off the cable into Petey Williams' hand, in addition to the X falling off earlier, of course, it's been even more obvious to me that I think Ultimate X should be retired, and TNA should come up with a better X-Division match concept.  Either that, or just do regular X-Division matches.

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The X Division is what makes TNA! Its what it has to offer that WWE can't. Along with that, the Ultimate X match as well. What they should do is ONLY have an Ulitmate X match for X division Championship matches. This will make it even more important of a match and the belts don't usually fall off. Also, I like what Petey Williams did at Bound for Glory. If the X falls you let the heel take it cuz its keeps him over as a heel by cheating to win. Then you can run an angle where the match is in litigaton or whatever with the Championship Committee and you can ultimately end up with a match consisting of the heel that won the match and the contestant that was supposed to win it.

[Guest GoJoe]

Petey should have sold the win though. It doesn't matter if the match didn't go to plan, you've won the contest, you're on camera, you should be ecstatic.

[Guest SavageRulz]

Looking past whether the match is any good or not, TNA needs to put Ultimate X away for a while just due to the sheer overkill of the match. They're getting towards WWE 2001/2002 Ladder Match levels of overuse, it's TNA's special match so naturally they want to use it, particularly with the FSN/Spike TV restarts, but if they keep doing it so often it will quickly stop being special and just become 'another' gimmick match.

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I completely agree with that. Especially if they have plans to put the X Title on Samoa Joe. Can you see him attempting to cross the wire to get the belt? That would scream disaster.

[CanadianChick 0]

Do it WAY less often, and make it for the belt. It looks stupid having a big red X hanging from the ceiling.

[Dangerous A 0]

Petey should have sold the win though. It doesn't matter if the match didn't go to plan, you've won the contest, you're on camera, you should be ecstatic.

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This was also brought up by Meltzer in the latest Observer. Petey was slated to win anyways, but he should've been happy to get the win, even if it was cheap being that Petey IS a heel.