Austin Walks Out Again

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I guess I was a bit mixed up, but I knew Christian had some role in the "What" invention, even if it was an answering machine. ANyhow I didn't really think the two instances were related but I'm just looking for SOMETHING here. I just can't fathom why WWE would want to jeopardize what they view as their current money match (Hogan/Austin) for the sake of not bringing back JR and putting over Mark Henry.

[cabbageboy 0]

The unexplored aspect of this is why are they even bringing back Mark Henry? Has anyone besides me wondered why they would want to do that? It's just weird. The guy's contract is up next year and only a retarded crackhead would dare to try to sign him again. I figured they would just keep him on the shelf until his contract was up next year and release him.

[Guest *KNK*]

The unexplored aspect of this is why are they even bringing back Mark Henry?  Has anyone besides me wondered why they would want to do that?  It's just weird.  The guy's contract is up next year and only a retarded crackhead would dare to try to sign him again.  I figured they would just keep him on the shelf until his contract was up next year and release him.

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Vince always wanted to justify the contract, after he realized that Henry wasn't going to give in and quit, The last couple years he has wanted to justify the contract as best he could. Also, Henry is a big guy and that alone tells you why he wanted to bring Henry back in. Vince won't admit he fucked up with Henry and that contract.

[KingPK 0]

If anything Carlito could've gotten Vader to be on his side just for the whole Jack/Vader history. I guess that was too logical to do.

 

Ah, but that was in WCW. You think Vince would ever acknowledge ANY angles to come out of that place (excluding the NWO)?

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

The unexplored aspect of this is why are they even bringing back Mark Henry?  Has anyone besides me wondered why they would want to do that?  It's just weird.  The guy's contract is up next year and only a retarded crackhead would dare to try to sign him again.  I figured they would just keep him on the shelf until his contract was up next year and release him.

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Vince always wanted to justify the contract, after he realized that Henry wasn't going to give in and quit, The last couple years he has wanted to justify the contract as best he could. Also, Henry is a big guy and that alone tells you why he wanted to bring Henry back in. Vince won't admit he fucked up with Henry and that contract.

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In the ten years Henry has been with the fed if you add of all the time he's been on WWE TV and PPV's I have a feeling it would barely add up to half of that. Cause it seems like he spends more time off TV then on.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah but there is no need to admit anything. Look, the Hand of God couldn't get Mark Henry over, not in a million years. It's not going to happen. Vince doesn't have to admit he was wrong about Mark Henry, just keep him on the shelf for another year and bye bye.

 

It's not like the Big Show, who signed a similar 10 year deal. He actually has some kind of value, so I can see the repeat attempts to get him over.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't want to lose to a B-level announcer. Damn him and such.

[Gary Floyd 0]

I don't blame Austin for not wanting to job to Coach. There's no point to it. That out of the way, I'm kind of glad he's gone, as I didn't like having to see Austin vs. The McMahon Family again.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I can't believe some people are actually attacking Austin over this one, they were going to have him lose the Coach on PPV!!! There is no justifiable reason for that happening!

[Guest *KNK*]

I can't believe some people are actually attacking Austin over this one, they were going to have him lose the Coach on PPV!!!  There is no justifiable reason for that happening!

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The only thing I can attack Austin for is even agreeing to work this program to begin with. He was willing to job to Coach if he got Ross his job back but when Austin finally figured out they werent going to do it, he had nothing to gain.

[cabbageboy 0]

The silver lining in this is that at least now this McMahons on TV crap seems to be put down for the time being. Without Austin there I can't think of any reason why Vince or Steph need to show up on Raw (Cena's issue is with Bischoff, not the McMahons). Besides, having the McMahons around seriously killed Bisch's credibility as a heel character and thus in a roundabout way hurt John Cena since he is feuding with guys like Angle and Jericho (Bischoff's toadies), when Bisch himself is a toady with no real power since the McMahons are all over TV running things.

 

Does anyone know if the WM match with Austin/Hogan is still on?

[cameron chaos 0]

I can't believe some people are actually attacking Austin over this one, they were going to have him lose the Coach on PPV!!!  There is no justifiable reason for that happening!

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The only thing I can attack Austin for is even agreeing to work this program to begin with. He was willing to job to Coach if he got Ross his job back but when Austin finally figured out they werent going to do it, he had nothing to gain.

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I think the whole point is he walked out because he didn't want to do the job and not have his buddy return. Had it been booked so he had won JR would have returned and there would have been no problems.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

When is WWE going to realize people are sick of seeing announcers and other non-wrestlers in matches and major angles on TV? I mean, what possible good could have come from Austin laying down for frickin' Coach???

[Guest jackie fargo]

Austin should stay at home and stay gone-he's a negative for the WWE product as a whole-everytime he comes back he walks out on an angle or refuses to job to someone-

 

But, he'll be back for Suvior Series..

[dubq 0]

Austin should stay at home and stay gone-he's a negative for the WWE product as a whole-everytime he comes back he walks out on an angle or refuses to job to someone-

 

But, he'll be back for Suvior Series..

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Right, like any angle with the Coach going over arguably one of the three biggest WWF/E stars in history isn't already a friggin' negative in and of itself.

[chaosrage 0]

Austin should stay at home and stay gone-he's a negative for the WWE product as a whole-everytime he comes back he walks out on an angle or refuses to job to someone-

 

But, he'll be back for Suvior Series..

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And there certainly would never be a good reason for him to walk out on an angle, would there? Because WWE does everything right and always makes sense.

[Vyce 0]

The only thing left to do with Austin, really, is to build up to a Hogan / Austin match.

 

That's about all he's good for still. If he could still work a semi-regular schedule, I'd suggest maybe having him work with some of the younger guys, like Cena or Orton or Batista.

 

As it is, having him wrestle an announcer, let alone JOB to him, is fucking crazy. I'm not going to criticize Austin for walking. He doesn't need the money, he doesn't need this bullshit.

[BruiserKC 0]

I understand the angle is flat out ridiculous and the idea of one of the biggest draws in wrestling history jobbing to a 5th-rate announcer is just not a good idea.

This I can accept. I can also accept that just because the McMahons find it entertaining doesn't mean I'm not going to change the channel to Iron Chef re-runs.

 

But Austin walking out again (keep in mind this isn't the first time or even the 2nd time Austin has done this) is just unacceptable. Austin's not doing this to make a statement towards bad booking or senseless storylines. He's doing this because he's upset at having to job and his own ego can't stand for it. I'm fed up with having my intelligence insulted in this capacity. If Stone Cold wants to go...there's the door, you know where it is, hurry it up as I hate long good-byes.

 

As for Vince...when is the man going to realize it wasn't funny the first time to see Kane pulling stuff out of Triple H's BUTT...why would he think it funny again? He'd be better off asking Coach and Bischoff to pull his finger. That'd be way more entertaining.

[cabbageboy 0]

I can see the argument that Austin should have stayed and gotten the booking changed. I've always thought that while Vince enjoyed making money off of Austin he never really viewed Austin as a serious star but just as someone who caught fire for a while. What I mean is that during the Austin/McMahon feud Vince was playing off his very real feeling that someone like Austin was not someone he wanted to build his company around. Guys like HHH and Shawn are. Thus Vince listens to them and caves in to their demands while Austin ends up walking.

 

I actually did get on Austin's case in 2002 when he walked, feeling he should have at least shown up and if he didn't like it just have the booking changed to a DQ or whatever vs. Brock. Yeah the booking then was slightly foolish but nowhere near the level of stupidity of this Coach/JR debacle.

 

I mean what is Austin going to do? Should he job to the Coach, seriously hurt his own drawing power for WM against Hogan, and not even get JR rehired to boot? After that if I'm Austin I just tell Vince to fuck off and never even call again.

[bob_barron 0]

Austin's not doing this to make a statement towards bad booking or senseless storylines. He's doing this because he's upset at having to job and his own ego can't stand for it.

 

Again, you're ignoring the fact that they're dicking him around about hiring his best friend back.

 

If Stone Cold wants to go...there's the door, you know where it is, hurry it up as I hate long good-byes.

 

That's kind of what he did.

[Guest Fishyswa]

^Only his best friend never lost his job, so he doesn't have to get it back.

 

Is it stupid to have him lose to Coach in anyway? Yes, people complain about him coming in to randomly beat people up, and Coach is the perfect person to do that to, there's no credibility at stake. Instead they book for him. Just dumb.

 

But what's even stupider is what ends up on TV after you walk out. Leaving the other guys high and dry like that is just fucked up, regardless of the situation.

[bob_barron 0]

JR's no longer the announcer on RAW. Austin did the angle thinking they'd give JR back his job.

[Dangerous A 0]

Goes both ways. Austin shouldn't leave everyone to hang, at the same time though, they needed to let Austin know from day one where this was all going. It's bad on Austin's part for agreeing and not following through, no matter how moronic. It's even worse on WWE for not telling Austin the plan or, worse, changing the plan on him in the middle of the storyline.

 

Oh well, I wasn't buying the show whether Austin was on or not.

[Caliban 0]

Totally on Austin's side.

 

Mark freaking Henry?!?

 

Vince has lost his mind....

[BruiserKC 0]

Austin's not doing this to make a statement towards bad booking or senseless storylines. He's doing this because he's upset at having to job and his own ego can't stand for it.

 

Again, you're ignoring the fact that they're dicking him around about hiring his best friend back.

 

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Not overlooking that fact...but also can't overlook the fact this isn't the first time he's taken his ball and went home because they won't play ball the way he wants.

I tend to take him a little less seriously like that.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

That's about all he's good for still.  If he could still work a semi-regular schedule, I'd suggest maybe having him work with some of the younger guys, like Cena or Orton or Batista.

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Austin is a little over 4 years older than Batista.

[Enigma 0]

THE REAL REASON STEVE AUSTIN ISN'T AT TABOO TUESDAY

by Wade Keller

 

Steve Austin was not in a car accident, but a source tells the Torch he did suffer a back injury moving furniture. Saying "car accident" sounded more serious and palatable for television. As one WWE source noted, though, if Austin were enthusiastic and motivated about this angle and the planned finish, he may have taken a pain pill and found a way to make it through a gimmicky low-exertion match with Coach. As it is, though, he apparently is severely immobilized at this point from the back strain.

[Guest P-Any]

The original plan going into the PPV was that Coachman would defeat Austin after interference from Mark Henry. When Austin (who would have been wrestling his first official match since Wrestlemania XIX vs. The Rock) learned of the plan, sources indicated he was extremely upset over the creative direction, which had led to issues between he and WWE. Issues could not be resolved to Austin's liking, so Austin has walked out of WWE again and his match at Taboo Tuesday is off.

 

credit: PWInsider

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Figures. You know people argue that Austin is the "Hogan" of the current times. I guess the comparision is accurate if you look at it from the persepctive that neither wants to job, wants creative control over their characters and will only work for a big pay day.

[RedJed 0]

Austin's not doing this to make a statement towards bad booking or senseless storylines. He's doing this because he's upset at having to job and his own ego can't stand for it.

 

Again, you're ignoring the fact that they're dicking him around about hiring his best friend back.

 

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Not overlooking that fact...but also can't overlook the fact this isn't the first time he's taken his ball and went home because they won't play ball the way he wants.

I tend to take him a little less seriously like that.

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Cmon man - its not that they wont play ball the way "he wants," its the principle that they bait him back into storylines to play into the Ross storyline (which logically should lead to Ross returning and naturally, Austin beating Coach), and then go and then job him out instead, when there is no question they should not be doing so considering the Ross situation and in that this is his first match in years and you dont drop the ball like that, no fuckin way. Plus ITS COACH he would be doing the job for. It's the simple principle, and additionally, Vince should know better from all of the dealings with Austin in the past that you can't expect him to put up with this - its like kicking someone in the nuts and not expecting them to at least squint.

 

The fact that he has left before (and when he left, it was understandable terms for the most part) should be reason enough for a situation like this to not happen again. Vince should know better.

[BruiserKC 0]

Austin's not doing this to make a statement towards bad booking or senseless storylines. He's doing this because he's upset at having to job and his own ego can't stand for it.

 

Again, you're ignoring the fact that they're dicking him around about hiring his best friend back.

 

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Not overlooking that fact...but also can't overlook the fact this isn't the first time he's taken his ball and went home because they won't play ball the way he wants.

I tend to take him a little less seriously like that.

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Cmon man - its not that they wont play ball the way "he wants," its the principle that they bait him back into storylines to play into the Ross storyline (which logically should lead to Ross returning and naturally, Austin beating Coach), and then go and then job him out instead, when there is no question they should not be doing so considering the Ross situation and in that this is his first match in years and you dont drop the ball like that, no fuckin way. Plus ITS COACH he would be doing the job for. It's the simple principle, and additionally, Vince should know better from all of the dealings with Austin in the past that you can't expect him to put up with this - its like kicking someone in the nuts and not expecting them to at least squint.

 

The fact that he has left before (and when he left, it was understandable terms for the most part) should be reason enough for a situation like this to not happen again. Vince should know better.

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And Austin at first did agree to do this angle...if he felt funny about it he should have spoken up in the first place. Not to mention he bails on the whole thing less than 24 hours before the show, leaving the fans, wrestlers, and everyone in a lurch.

 

And if this was the first time he walked out than I can see giving him the benefit. He's done this several times before...how many times would most of us get the chance to walk out on our work if things weren't going right? Chances are once only.

 

Yes, the angle is outrageous and someone clearly has no clue what they're doing...but I under no circumstances can I justify Austin walking out...AGAIN. This is the little Steveweiser-swilling shepherd that cried WOLF too many times.