Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I think one of the main reasons why the world of wrestling, in particular WWE, isn't so palatable and engaging any more is because of the fact that it is World Wrestling Entertainment, and not the storied and legendary World Wrestling Federation. World Wrestling Entertainment Champion. That will never, ever sound right. I know they avoid that by constantly saying the "WWE champion," but it's still downright lame and illegitimate. In reading the Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels autobiographies, I've come to notice that both wrestlers refer to events prior to 2002 as occuring in the World Wrestling Federation; they never say WWF, always the World Wrestling Federation... Anyway, my argument is this: Vince McMahon should go back to calling his company the World Wrestling Federation and go back to using a modern version of the block logo (no scratch variations). No announcer, interviewer or wrestler is allowed to utter the letters WWF; only the words World Wrestling Federation can be said. Now, if you think that always referring to the brand as the World Wrestling Federation is repetitive, I'd like to take you back to several years ago, when many wrestlers -- like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels -- would always refer to the company as the World Wrestling Federation. Eventually, I can see the the company making the natural and eventual transition to being called the WWF, as well, without repercussions from the World Wildlife Fund. What do you guys think?
bob_barron Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 It's a horrible idea that will not have any effect on the product and will probably get them sued again
Vern Gagne Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I'm suprised the WWE hasn't used this as an excuse for their horrible product.
BUTT Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I think one of the main reasons why the world of wrestling, in particular WWE, isn't so palatable and engaging any more is because of the fact that WWE has abysmal writing, awful acting, brings up talentless "studs" from OVW who can't do anything more basic than a full nelson, forces their wrestlers to have slow boring matches and shows their fans no respect at all.
Jericholic82 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 well considering we are still in the split era, they never had to change the initials, they could have referred to the titles as raw and sd champions. "The WWE" is a broad term right now considering there are two "seperate" brands. anyway this wont happen n or will it have any effect on the product.
Guest JoeJoe Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 This is hilarious on so many levels.
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 It's a horrible idea that will not have any effect on the product and will probably get them sued again You can't get sued for not breaking any rules. And, it will have a HUGE effect on the product. I know lots of people who thought "WWE" was so lame that their interest in the product waned irrevocably. One reason for why John Cena gets booed is because he signifies World Wrestling Entertainment. The modus operandi of professional wrestling is to seem legitimate and galvanize the masses in such a way that the people watching it forget that it's predetermined. By telling people that what they're watching is Entertainment, it undermines the masculine brawn, virility, and viciousness that is emblematic of professional wrestling. This is none more apparent than when you're seeing two guys battle it out in the ring and then notice the word ENTERTAINMENT printed in BIG letters on the apron; it takes you out of the moment, the match, and the presentation. Get my drift? Going back to calling the promotion World Wrestling Federation will legitimize the product -- at least from bell to bell -- and will allow fans to once again immerse themselves in a world of fiction where wrestling seems real. Like Vince McMahon said, Perception IS Reality. The wonderment of wrestling happens in those moments where you perceive wrestling to be real; and, that's how the nexus between fan and performer is engendered.
CanadianChris Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 On the list of things I'd change about WWE, this would be right around the bottom.
Si82 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I honestly don't think it would help the company at all. A name change is the least of their problems. They should concentrate on making the product watchable again. Besides, the product put out by WWE these days isn't wrestling is it entertainment. Crappy entertainment but it certainly is not wrestling.
Guest Chrisly_2005 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 This has got to be one of the worst ideas i have ever heard in my life.
iliketurtles Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) Unless if the World Wildlife Fund's offices exploded and they went out of business, then I sincerely doubt you'll see a name change any time soon. Edited December 3, 2005 by HartFan86
Foshi Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I rarely ever think of the fact that it's called WWE. I still refer to it as WWF out of habit and honestly changing the name would have no effect on my life or my opinion of the overall product. I don't think you can say the WWE name is what started the crap. The horribly horribly written Invasion angle happened in the WWF days. I think it's the poor writing and (to the company's knowledge or not) their poor relationship with the fans that's hurting the product, not the name.
Karc Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Losing the WWF name was the WWE's fault, period. The first post made was more or less the original conditions of the settlement before WWE got arrogant. And WWE only sounds lame because the PRODUCT is lame. If they were producing great TV, no one would care.
razazteca Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 On the list of things I'd change about WWE, this would be right around the bottom. Raw needs a new set....
dubq Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I never understood why they just didn't legally change their company name to "World Wrestling Federation, Entertainment" to avoid the lawsuits. They keep their old identity, but are known as something else legally. Oh well.
Jericholic82 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I never understood why they just didn't legally change their company name to "World Wrestling Federation, Entertainment" to avoid the lawsuits. They keep their old identity, but are known as something else legally. Oh well. that was the name of the company at the time of the lawsuit, they changed from Titan sports sometime in the late 90s
Jericho2000Mark Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 On the list of things I'd change about WWE, this would be right around the bottom. Raw needs a new set.... ...and a new opening song. I mean it worked for SmackDown...
SuperJerk Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 As much as I hate the name WWE, I don't see how changing it back to WWF would improve anything substantial. Maybe it might improve company morale for a couple of months, but that's it.
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 In other news, the reason for Vince McMahon's red-faced, rancorous rage for Randy Savage is because the Macho Man had sex with a 15-year-old Stephanie McMahon back in the day. And before you say, "OMG!!! Savage is a Statutory Rapist," let me say that the age of consent in Connecticut is 15, unlike the other 49 states. credit: wrestlingclassics message board
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Here's what the renowned Gangsta Geek says about this startling revelation on the WrestlingClassics board: "One of my favorite all-time McMahon family saga moments was when Stephanie revealled that Vince had used her as a bartering chip to get certain deals done with certain people. Maybe the Macho Man was one of them!"
Jericho2000Mark Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 We know. What does that have to do with the topic?
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 We know. What does that have to do with the topic? I meant to post it in the comments that don't need a thread thread. OOpsy daisy.
haVoc Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 In other news, the reason for Vince McMahon's red-faced, rancorous rage for Randy Savage is because the Macho Man had sex with a 15-year-old Stephanie McMahon back in the day. Bullshit.
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I just thought of something really cool: If/When any of you are going to a live event soon and happen to witness Kurt Angle come down to the ring with that whole "censor gimmick" that they do on television, hold this sign up: CENSOR THIS
haVoc Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I went to a concert the other night and the arena still had the WWF scratch logo up in the hallway.
Cheech Tremendous Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 In other news, the reason for Vince McMahon's red-faced, rancorous rage for Randy Savage is because the Macho Man had sex with a 15-year-old Stephanie McMahon back in the day. Bullshit. Yeah I know. She was 14.
Jericholic82 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) I think someone should go to a raw or sd taping and sit in the front or close to the front rows and wear the scratch wwf logo from head to toe,even paint it on your face, so then theyd have to have a constant blur going on the whole night from tthat camera view. Edited December 3, 2005 by Jericholic82
Adam Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I've heard the Steph/Macho Man myth around as well.
haVoc Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I think someone should go to a raw or sd taping andf site in the front or close to the front rows and wear the scratch wwf logo from head to toe,even paint it on your face, so then theyd have to have a constant blur going on the whole night fromt ehat camera view. They wouldn't go through all that. They'd kick you out.
Guest tony manero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I think someone should go to a raw or sd taping andf site in the front or close to the front rows and wear the scratch wwf logo from head to toe,even paint it on your face, so then theyd have to have a constant blur going on the whole night fromt ehat camera view. And then watch 7 security guards tackle the shit out of this poor fan in 0.4 seconds.
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