MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 The As signed Joe Kennedy...........Kennedy to a 1 year deal. Hmm, thats all I got is the Mr. Kennedy ripoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Tony Graffanino is apparently going to accept the Red Sox arbitration offer. I'm surprised the Cardinals didn't show interest in him as he would have fit their team very well. I ain't complaining. Great insurance policy for Loretta and perhaps a small piece of trade bait if Loretta is healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Well somebody is going to get traded. Right now they have Loretta, Graffanino, and Alex Cora. I would think Graff gets traded as Cora can play SS and right now he would be the starting SS. I wouldn't be surprised however if they traded Lorretta to upgrade at SS or should Damon not resign, bring in a CF. He would have the most value out of the three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 I'll punch myself in the face if Graffanino has anywhere close to the year he had last year with the Sox again this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) Texas-SD deal: Texas gets: Adam Eaton, Akinori Otsuka, minor leaguer SD gets: Chris Young, Adrian Gonzalez, Termel Sledge http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2266394 I don't quite get this deal for Texas. Eaton is going to be much more expensive than Chris Young, but not an upgrade in production (possibly a sizable downgrade taking the parks into account). I like Otsuka, but I think Gonzalez, Sledge and the Eaton-Young money difference is too pricey there. Edited December 20, 2005 by the pinjockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 I agree. This is not quite a good deal for Texas. It doesn't hurt them too much though. Adrian Gonzalez was blocked, and Terrmel Sledge is an average player. What really makes it odd is Chris Young for Adam Eaton. Eaton had a 4.27 ERA compared to 4.26 for Young. That's before you make any park adjustments. Adam Eaton hasn't posted an above average ERA since his rookie season. Good job for the Padres for turning Eaton's winning streak into a better pitcher. Adrian Gonzalez is a great young hitter who demolished AAA, and he gives the team a fine young hitter. Losing Otsuka may hurt, but a good first baseman is better than a good reliever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Terrible trade for Texas. They could have gotten alot more for Adrian Gonzales. There's been no news at all on Jeff Weaver. With the amount SPs are getting this off-season he may come across as a fairly good bargain for some team. Some relievers that seem to be flying under the radar too are... Shigetoshi Hasegawa Kerry Ligtenberg Scott Sullivan Jim Mecir I wouldn't mind seeing Jim Mecir on the Red Sox. There are no good left-handed relievers left on the market, yet he gets lefties out pretty well thanks to that Screwball of his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 At this point most teams are likely holding off until after midnight to see who gets non-tendered. No need signing the lower tier players when the market might get restocked tonight. And if Branyan gets non-tendered, Gillick needs to be on the phone with his agent at 12:01. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Red Sox Co-GM Jed Hoyer confirms they will be non-tendering Wade Miller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 and now Manny wants to stay in Boston according to some Sports Memorabilia guy that did bussiness with him. Its all they've talked about on WEEI today. Link to the article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Terrible trade for Texas. They could have gotten alot more for Adrian Gonzales. There's a rumor that the Padres may now flip Gonzalez to the Red Sox for David Wells. There's been no news at all on Jeff Weaver. With the amount SPs are getting this off-season he may come across as a fairly good bargain for some team. Weaver's agent is Scott Boras. Boras knows the market, and he's going to squeeze every penny. Remember Kevin Millwood, another Boras client, hasn't signed either. Some relievers that seem to be flying under the radar too are... Shigetoshi Hasegawa Kerry Ligtenberg Scott Sullivan Jim Mecir I wouldn't mind seeing Jim Mecir on the Red Sox. There are no good left-handed relievers left on the market, yet he gets lefties out pretty well thanks to that Screwball of his. Mecir retired. Don't feel bad, Rob Neyer made the same mistake. Hasegawa received some poor reviews for his performance this season. He's a finesse pitcher and I don't think he has much left. Ligtenberg has performed poorly in the Majors the last two years, but he did strike out a batter an inning at AAA Tucson. He's worth an NRI. And Scott Sullivan missed all but two innings in the minors due to injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Terrible trade for Texas. They could have gotten alot more for Adrian Gonzales. There's a rumor that the Padres may now flip Gonzalez to the Red Sox for David Wells. If that's true then the Red Sox have to pull the trigger NOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Yanks are close to signing Dotel to a 1 year deal. This worked with Lieber, and I hope it does again. I'm predicting hes setting up Mo by August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gathering Moss Report post Posted December 21, 2005 The Cubs have apparently signed Jacque Jones to a three year dear worth 16 million. Since the outfield is now set with Murton, Pierre, and Jones, what will become of poor old Corey Patterson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I thought the Cubs wanted players who get on base? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I thought the Cubs wanted players who get on base? No, they have a fixation on guys who are perceived to be better than they really are. Signing him isn't the end of the world, but I'm less crazy about the idea of having him around for three years. Cubs will really get nothing for Patterson if they try to dump him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Honestly, is Jacque Jones that much better than Corey Patterson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 he'll still be a better value than Jose Cruz Jr. Especially since he only costs a little over $5mill a year. Do the Cubs have any middle infielders right now besides Neifi Perez? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Honestly, is Jacque Jones that much better than Corey Patterson? Well, his OBP actually breaks .300. Other than that, who knows. I wonder how his numbers will be affected by the move from the Metrodome to Wrigley. Do the Cubs have any middle infielders right now besides Neifi Perez? Neifi can play short and second at the same time. Ask Dusty. We still have Walker, don't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Honestly, is Jacque Jones that much better than Corey Patterson? Well, Jones at least has a career OBP higher than .300, something which Patterson cannot claim to have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I love how within the same minute, there was more than one person citing Jones having an OBP above .300 as the only noticeable upgrade from Jones to Patterson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Some players have already been non-tendered RHP Wade Miller RHP Chad Bradford (kinda surprising) RHP Ramon Ortiz RHP Dewon Brazelton Devil Rays also designated RHP Joe Borowski for assignment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Jacque Jones is definately an upgrade. He's got seven seasons of league average production under his belt. For a team that had the league's worst outfield, that's a tremendous benefit. The only question is whether Jones was the best option at right field. He's not the worst. As for park factors, Wrigley and the Metrodome come out about even for lefties. Oddly, the Cubs tendered Corey Patterson. If they don't trade him, he might make a reasonable fifth outfielder, since he's still a decent glove man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Yanks tendered Chacon and Small, but thats not suprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Patterson's a real Catch 22. I don't want to see him regulated to being a deep bench player this early in his career, but at the same time, don't want him to go elsewhere and become the star everyone's been waiting for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Is Dotel going to be ready to pitch by the start of the year, or what? I like this signing, over who I thought was going to be Julian Tavarez. Phew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 No. He's not suppose to be ready until May or June. God knows how effective he'll be too since it usually takes 12-18 months to fully make it back from TJS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 according to radio in Seattle, the Mariners non-tender Ryan Franklin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 While tommy john surgery works for a lot of pitchers, it did basically kill any effectivness Steve Karsay had for the Yankees. Hopefully Dotel is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Is this real? Bostonians? http://cbs4boston.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
