Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 12, 2005 1948 - Allies Found That No Camp Inmates Were Gassed Circular Letter No. 31/48 Vienna, 1 Oct. 1948 10th dispatch 12-9-5 1. The Allied Commissions of Inquiry have so far established that no people were killed by poison gas in the following concentration camps: Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Flossenbürg, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen and its satellite camps, Natzweiler, Neuengamme, Niederhagen (Wewelsburg), Ravensbrück, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Theresienstadt. In those cases, it has been possible to prove that confessions had been extracted by tortures and that testimonies were false. This must be taken into account when conducting investigations and interrogations with respect to war crimes. The result of this investigation should be brought to the cognizance of former concentration camp inmates who at the time of the hearings testified on the murder of people, especially Jews, with poison gas in those concentration camps. Should they insist on their statements, charges are to be brought against them for making false statements. 2. In the C.L. (Circular Letter) 15/48, item 1 is to be deleted. The Head of the MPS Müller, Major" Certified true copy: Lachout, Second Lieutenant Lachout testified (in a Canadian court case) that he had drafted this letter for Major Müller's signature and had watched him sign it. He had then had copies made in the office which he certified, signed and stamped. The letter was translated into three languages and confirmed by the controlling officer. Only then was it allowed to be issued. The letter was circulated to every military Kommando in the Russian zone to keep personnel aware of the state of investigations. No one was ever charged with making false statements because they withdrew their statements as soon as they heard about the letter. http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/29lachout.html Ever-Diminishing Official Numbers Of Auschwitz Dead 12-10-5 9,000,000 Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown to millions of school students worldwide. 8,000,000 Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945. 7,000,000 Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office. 6,000,000 Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians. 5,000,000 to 5,500,000 Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke. 5,000,000 Source: Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000. 4,500,000 Source: In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the aforementioned Höss trial. 4,000,000 Source: Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later on January 26, 1995, The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials. In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz museum officials in 1990 but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery. 3,500,000 Source: Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book, Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber. 3,000,000 Source: Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commander who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below). 2,500,000 Source: Cited by Rudolf Vrba (an author of various fraudulent accounts of events he claims to have witnessed at Auschwitz) when he testified on July 16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS official Adolf Eichmann. 2,000,000 Source: Cited by Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in Harvest of Hate; Georges Wellers, writing in 1973 in The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy; and Lucy Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in The War Against the Jews. 2,000,000 to 4,000,000 Source: Cited by Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, A History of the Holocaust. However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figure to 1,600,000. 1,600,000 Source: This is a 1989 revision by Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in 1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September 22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote "The larger figures have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public yet." 1,500,000 Source: In 1995 this was the number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish President Lech Walesa as determined by those at the Auschwitz museum. This number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time, thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official" figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities). 1,471,595 Source: This is a 1983 figure cited by Georges Wellers who (as noted previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. 1,433,000 Source: This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000. 1,250,000 Source: In the book, The Destruction of the European Jews, by Raul Hilberg (1985). 1,100,000 to 1,500,000 Source: Sources for this estimate are Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum in their 1984 book, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp. This estimate was later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The upper figure of 1,500,000 is (the new) "official" figure as now inscribed at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp. 1,000,000 Source: Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers. This is interesting since he wrote his book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at Auschwitz. 900,000 Source: Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New York. 800,000 to 900,000 Source: Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his book, The Final Solution. 775,000 to 800,000 Source: Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book, The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery, scaling down his earlier claim of 1,000,000 dead. 630,000 to 710,000 Source: In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000. 135,000 to 140,000 Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained by various interested parties. The estimate of 135,000 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989. The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz (each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name, profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence, parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)). The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000 individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 12, 2005 Auschwitz Museum Director Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax By P. Samuel Foner The Spotlight Volume XIX, Number 2 5-31-4 In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin. What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive 1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz. With this admission by none other than the respected head of the Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations since WWII are based. It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United States has poured into the state of Israel since its inception in 1948 - amounting to $16,500 for every man, woman and child in the Jewish state and billions more paid by Germany in 'reparations' - not to mention the constructing of Israel's national telephone, electrical and rail systems...all gifts of the German people. It is the basis for the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for housing its immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans sleep on the streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands. (Note - As of 2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the state of Israel by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed) Germany is paying 'reparations' - the the United States is making major contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and elsewhere. If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were unnecessary, and were based on fraud. The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12 years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really happened at Auschwitz. Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the 'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable - was 4.1 million. Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to 1.1 million). As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued. Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the official 4.1 millon 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an anti-semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million. No mention was made of the missing 3 million. The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while officials knew that 'original state' is a ie. The political, religious, fiancial and historical ramifications of this proof of no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz cannot be measured. Coupled with the Leuchter Report, the Cole interview with Dr. Piper on videotape proves that what Western governments have taught about the Auschwitz gas chamber since WWII is a lie. It proves that what televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have been telling their flocks is simply not true. No one, regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin was gassed to death in any building so designated at Auschwitz. And without 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz, where is the reasoning for the special treatment of the state of Israel? Note - This is excerpted from the orginal, much longer article by P. Samuel Foner. The Jews And The Concentration Camps: A Factual Appraisal By The Red Cross. There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948. This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value. No Evidence Of Genocide One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83). Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable. Wow. Just Wow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 No Evidence Of Genocide Well, where *did* all those Jews go, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 12, 2005 All over the world, Auschwitz has become a symbol of terror, genocide, and the Holocaust. It was established by the Nazis in 1940, in the suburbs of the city of Oswiecim which, like other parts of Poland, was occupied by the Germans during the Second World War. The name of the city of Oswiecim was changed to Auschwitz, which became the name of the camp as well. Over the following years, the camp was expanded and consisted of three main parts: Auschwitz I, Auschwitz II-Birkenau, and Auschwitz III-Monowitz. It also had over 40 sub-camps. At first, Poles were imprisoned and died in the camp. Afterwards, Soviet prisoners of war, Gypsies, and prisoners of other nationalities were also incarcerated there. Beginning in 1942, the camp became the site of the greatest mass murder in the history of humanity, which was committed against the European Jews as part of Hitler's plan for the complete destruction of that people. The majority of the Jewish men, women and children deported to Auschwitz were sent to their deaths in the Birkenau gas chambers immediately after arrival. At the end of the war, in an effort to remove the traces of the crimes they had committed, the SS began dismantling and razing the gas chambers, crematoria, and other buildings, as well as burning documents. Then there's this lovely quote: "From the above account, it would appear that those in charge of the barbarous Allied civilian bombing of Germany, thus attacking the civilian infrastructure (which is a war crime), are primarily responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of gays, gypsies, political dissidents, Jews, etc. in the concentration camps of wartime Germany due to disease and starvation." And, I would suggest, deliberately. There is no way Allied command could have been ignorant of what the effects of bombing supply lines would be on prisoners dependent on those supplies for food, disinfestation supplies, and medicines. Those piles of dead bodies were mighty useful for selling the genocide claim and setting the stage for the Nuremberg witch trials and later "reparations" extortion (not to mention the creation of the criminal state of Israel). and this: The mother of all conspiracies. The second world war was the mother of all conspiracies. For the first time in the anals of our planet, the Zionist Leaders of six leading nations conspired to create a bogus war designed to kill 50 million Gentiles. The aim of the war was to create a Jewish stampede towards Palestine and ceate the Zionist State of Israel. The war was planned, coordinated and executed by wealthy Zionist Germans. The reward for their efforts was the looting of tons of gold and silver from the occupied European Banks. The estimated total of Jewish deaths is approximately 150,000. Most of those Jews died of Typhus, disentry, inmate violence, old age and a variety of diseases Charming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 Well, where *did* all those Jews go, then? Vacation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 "Uh, this tour guide mentions nothing about Germany from 1939 onward..." "EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 No Evidence Of Genocide Well, where *did* all those Jews go, then? Israel and to take over the banks with their evil Jew plans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 My grandfather fought in the European Theater and brought back many photos that remain in my family (most, currently in my possession). Most of the photos are mundane stuff of fellow troops and various military vehicles and such. But to of the photos depict the scene inside a concentration camp after Germany had surrendered to Allied Forces. These photos clearly show grotesquely malnourished and beaten bodies in heaps and piles. The fact that 'conspiracy theorists' feel these photos are proof there wasnt a holocaust is proof enough to me that they are completely braindead. If you believe this shit didnt happen - You are either truly sick or plain retarded...probably both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 Apparently Himmler was just lying on all those status reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 Apparently Himmler was just lying on all those status reports. He was actually working on his sci-fi novel, he just never got to add the part about the aliens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 It was one giant magic trick. Seriously. Hitler made them all disappear, we're just waiting for him to cheat death and come back to bring them out of the chambers alive and unharmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 It was one giant magic trick. Seriously. Hitler made them all disappear, we're just waiting for him to cheat death and come back to bring them out of the chambers alive and unharmed. Only if he reveals them to "The Final Countdown". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 Were those quotes from this site? Oh yes, I went there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) Good lord this is crazy Do people honestly believe that so many people would be caught up in this lie and that every single person involved, which would be a huge amount of people, have kept it a secret for over 60 years? Edited December 13, 2005 by Prime Time Andrew Doyle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 Were those quotes from this site? Oh yes, I went there. His movie on it is going to be great. Just great. I mean really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 *starts listening to Slayer* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Duke_The_Dog Report post Posted December 13, 2005 Anne Frank is currently living under an assumed name in Vietnam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 The bodies burnt at Auschwitz were infact aliens the Nazi's were fighting against. They just used the Jew cover up to protect the public from the truth. Yes people, the Nazi's saved us from an alien invasion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 Anyone who denies the Holocaust happened is simply a anti-Jewish racist bigot, plain and simple. To say that 6 million people weren't murdered by the Nazis, when their own writings state that is what they aimed to do, is one of the lowest forms of evil. But, if you want to cast your lot with the president of the greath and just nation of Iran, that is your call. You'll have to answer for it someday, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 The historical school of holocaust denial- cases where historians working with anti-semitic or pro- Nazi agendas seek to dilute or just plain deny the events that occured during the Nazi regime in Germany is based on clever manipulation of documents by the historians making the claims. Whilst the historians claim that their theories are validated by the original primary documents, you can just look at the actual original documents and see that the historians have either taken the quotes totally out of context, have subtly changed the information contained in the documents, oh have manipulated the original text/stats in a way that what was originally said goes on to take a whole new meaning. Either way the use of holocaust denial is a twisted distortion of history and the so called 'historians' who have claimed that the holocaust did not take place should be seen as nothing more than criminals- especially when they are able to dupe people into believing what they are presenting is the truth..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 The bodies burnt at Auschwitz were infact aliens the Nazi's were fighting against. They just used the Jew cover up to protect the public from the truth. Yes people, the Nazi's saved us from an alien invasion HOLY SHIT!!! ... Do you write for the Pravada? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 The Holocaust is probably one of the most document events in human history, with no shortage of official documents from the Nazi government, photos, physical evidence, eye witness accounts, and dead bodies to back the the events up. Plus, you have Hitler's pre-war writings to go by, which clearly indicate his intentions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Today on the AP Wire: Iran leader: Holocaust a 'myth' TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday the Holocaust is a "myth" that Europeans have used to create a Jewish state in the heart of the Islamic world. "Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad told a crowd of thousands in the southeastern city of Zahedan. Six million Jews were killed in Europe during the Nazi Holocaust of World War II. Ahmadinejad said it was the Europeans who committed crimes against the Jews and they, the United States or Canada should give part of their land to the Jews to establish a state. Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcry in October when he called Israel a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map." Last week, he suggested that Israel should be transferred to Europe, drawing further condemnation. (Full story) "If you (Europeans) committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?" Ahmadinejad asked rhetorically Wednesday. "You (Europeans) have to pay the compensation yourself. "This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them (Jews) so that the Jews can establish their country," he said. Ahmadinejad said the West had harmed Muslims, invaded their countries and plundered their wealth. "If your civilization consists of aggression, making oppressed people homeless, suffocating the voices of justice and bringing poverty to a majority of the world's people, we say loudly that we hate your hollow civilization," he said. The president's views sharply conflict with those of his predecessor Mohammad Khatami, a political moderate who used to call for a dialogue among civilizations and promoted a low-key understanding with the United States that stopped short of diplomatic relations. Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/...l.ap/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest clockworkraven Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Reading this is a fucktastic voyage. Those piles of dead bodies were mighty useful for selling the genocide claim You have to admit, it wouldn't have worked as well if they were alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 14, 2005 I am impressed that they have alot of the "yeah but what about..." arguments accounted for, even if this is all malarkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 No Evidence Of Genocide Well, where *did* all those Jews go, then? Having actively studied this last year for a paper, I can tell you in all seriousness they believe that many moved to New York. I recommend the book "Dening the Holocaust" it's one of may favorite books, it's about those that deny the holocaust and goes to great lengths to show the utter ridiculousness of the enite thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 I think that Iranian dude has at least one point; it wasn't really right (in my opinion) for the Allied nations to tell the Palestininans to get out of their own country, because the Jews are moving in. I mean, yeah, I know that they *used* to live there, but in my eyes, it's the same as like, Germany telling everyone in Texas to move out, because they're giving the land back to the Natives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 The funny thing is, before the establishment of Israel, there wasn't really a group identifying themselves as "Palestinians." They're all Arabs. And the UN didn't kick out the Palestinians either...they were allowed to stay, along with the many Jews that already lived there. It's not like there was actually an independent country of Palestine before Israel was established. It had been a British mandate territory since World War I's end. Further, there are plenty of Arab nations in the greater region at large, yet they begrudge the Jews from having one nation to call their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 its total bullshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites