This week in the NBA

[JHawk 0]

He's 21. He has attempted to take the last shot before. He did vs the Lakers this year in LA and came up short. Give him a chance. Kobe and T-Mac weren't taking and hitting game winners early on either. They had the luxury of being on good teams and weren't being called upon to be the #1 option from the start of their careers.

 

LeBron will be there. Trust me.

 

What about his draftmates Carmelo and Wade? They are two of the best at closing the deal. They've both taken teams singlehandedly to the playoffs. That's all I'm saying, if LeBron is so "great" why can't he do the things necessary to win games and take his team to an 8 seed in the weak Eastern Conference? I think Kobe tried taking game winners early on and failed, but LeBron doesn't seem to WANT to have that pressure on his shoulders, and much like Yao Ming I don't think you can teach him to break his passive style of play because that's who he is. It's not like LeBron's ever going to play with another guy who is the primary scoring option so if he's not going to do it now, when is he going to start? He had five chances to get it done yesterday in the final minute and change and passed it 4 times and avoided the ball a fifth time. There were a bunch of bums relatively speaking wearing Cavs jerseys on the court, and he didn't drive all the way to the hole (where you KNOW he'd get the call anyway) or pull up and take a big shot, he passed it to a guy in a bad position or 20+ feet from the hoop each time, that's not a coincidence to me.

 

Maybe I missed the memo, but the last I knew basketball was still considered a team sport. And as much as I love the Cavs, I'd be stupid to think they've got this incredibly deep lineup to support LeBron.

[Ripper 0]

Game on the line...Tim Duncan kicks the ball to Avery Johnson to hit a jumper and win the game when he was triple teamed by the Knicks.

 

Game on the line, Jordan kicks the ball to Steve Kerr for the jumper when he was doubled by the Jazz.

 

Game on the line, Jordan kicks the ball to Scottie Pippen (who was then doubled and kicked the ball to Horace Grant who had a better shot, who then kicked it to John Paxon) for the game winner against the Suns.

 

Game on the line, Lakers down one and they inbound the ball to Derek Fisher. Not Kobe, not Shaq, but Derek Fisher who hit the shot to beat the Spurs.

 

The difference between being a superstar and being a all time great player isthe ability to realize that your greatness sets up teammates. Are you actually arguing that Flip Murray's jump shot was a worse shot than anything Lebron could have come up with? It was the BEST PLAY.

 

Look at ALL of Carmelos or Dwayne Wades winners. Notice something? They are wide the fuck open. They took the best shot. That is what basketball is. This isn't a video game where you see who has the best rating and say he will shoot no matter what. Flip Murray should hit a wide open 3. Guys should hit wide open 20 footers. This is the NBA.

 

Anyone that would ignore wide open teammates to take contested difficult shots is never going to amount to anything in the league. Kobe is the only guy that MAY do it, but do we really want to start counting how many last second fuck ups Kobe has.

 

Its always easy to see the game winners, but you have to notice the misses too.

[Dangerous A 0]

Its always easy to see the game winners, but you have to notice the misses too.

 

 

I remember a commercial during the Bulls second 3 peat run where they even mentioned MJ taking x amount of game winning shots and failing. Guys like MJ and Kobe have earned their respect as clutch players no doubt, but no one ever remembers the games where they took the last shot, one on one, and still missed. People only remember the winning shots.

 

 

Again, LeBron is 21 years old. Once he starts hitting those game winners, everyone will forget about this stretch as well. Well, everyone except naiwf.

[naiwf 0]

The difference between being a superstar and being a all time great player isthe ability to realize that your greatness sets up teammates. Are you actually arguing that Flip Murray's jump shot was a worse shot than anything Lebron could have come up with? It was the BEST PLAY.

 

Look at ALL of Carmelos or Dwayne Wades winners. Notice something? They are wide the fuck open. They took the best shot. That is what basketball is. This isn't a video game where you see who has the best rating and say he will shoot no matter what. Flip Murray should hit a wide open 3. Guys should hit wide open 20 footers. This is the NBA.

 

Anyone that would ignore wide open teammates to take contested difficult shots is never going to amount to anything in the league. Kobe is the only guy that MAY do it, but do we really want to start counting how many last second fuck ups Kobe has.

 

Its always easy to see the game winners, but you have to notice the misses too.

 

I am arguing that setting up FLIP MURRAY for a 3 pointer when LeBron was two dribbles from the hoop is not the best play because if he draws contact he will get 2 free throws. If Flip misses the 3, and the Cavs blow a 25 point lead last night, who gets the blame? Flip Murray for missing the shot instead of LeBron for giving it to him to take in the first place, and that's bullshit. The average 3 point shooter only makes about 35% of their attempts, wide open or not, if that's the "best" percentage shot in the game, then please tell me what's the worst.

 

Wade delivering a facial to 'The Prince of the Palace' in Miami didn't look wide open to me. There was also the matter of D-Wade going off for the last 17 against Detroit of all teams to win a game. LeBron might do that against the Bobcats, Hawks or Knicks, but there's not a chance in hell he'd take over a meaningful game because he is not that kind of player. Also, Wade broke him down off of the dribble and hit the J, something a superstar should be able to do. Carmelo's hit many contested game winners too. If LeBron can score 31 a game, but only average like 2.5 points per in the 4th quarter during a critical losing streak something is WRONG with his game.

[Rendclaw 0]

I'm going to reverse my earlier staement about LeBron because of the last second play. He did the right thing and said the right thing afterwards, too.

 

Everyone is so hard up to see the next Jordan its ridiculous. To wit, Michael scored a ton of points at the age LeBron is now, but the Bulls didn;t do shit. Why? Because he needed the right players around him, and secondly, he had to learn to get his teammates involved and make them better. Of course he could and did take over games when he needed to, but he needed to learn not to when he wanted to. There is the difference.

 

LeBron is going to get better at taking and making the big shot. We are watching him mature before our eyes, and he is just now learning to walk. Trying to say "he should be running now" is ridiculous.

 

And nawif, are you God that you can make that guarantee that he would have gotten the foul had he gone to the hoop? He did the right thing by passing to a wide open teammate in the corner. You have to be able to trust your teammates as much as they trust you. That's Team Basketball 101. And by him saying in the interview afterwards that he isn;t going to force anything, he was right on. Cleveland fans booing him is just pathetic. They are such a desperate town, and if they don;t watch it, he is going to leave.

 

The only town I think in sports that is more desperate is Buffalo. That little ESPN claymation commerical was so on the money, it made the commercial funnier than it already was.

[Ripper 0]

What people don't mention is that Andre Miller takes most of Denvers big shots, and when he gives it up, its because Andres fucking Millers set them up.

 

And two, you CAN"T double team Dwayne Wade, the same way you couldn't double team Kobe when Shaq is on the floor. If you are doubling the man with the ball, you are going to be out of position to double Shaq. Who exactly does anyone fear on the Cavs court. He gets doubled and tripled. Until someone makes people pay for doing that, then they are going to be able to slow down Lebron from scoring in the big game moments.

 

Mark Cuban did this thing where he had people study the NBA and saw that players hit close to 65% of uncontested jumpshots. Something to do with trying to stress gettig your hands up to your team. WIDE OPEN players in the NBA seldom miss if they are a good shooter. You don't hope the refs make a call in the final seconds of a game over a wide open shot. That is just ridiculous.

 

And once again, you are only pointing out positives for other players and negatives for lebron. Why is it when Wade has only 14 against the same Chicago team and looked like trash the entire game, not just the 4th, its was okay. Or when he was simply looking lost against Dallas the other week when he scored 16 and almost none in the second half.

 

Or when Carmelo has dropped his 11-12 point games this year. He wasn't exactly 2nd half hero then.

 

At the same time, you don't bring up Lebron bringing the Cavs back from 17 down against the Suns...TWICE. He was carrying the team on his back in the 2nd half LAST WEEK, he has a couple of tough games and now something is wrong with his game and he is overrated?

[naiwf 0]

What people don't mention is that Andre Miller takes most of Denvers big shots, and when he gives it up, its because Andres fucking Millers set them up.

 

And two, you CAN"T double team Dwayne Wade, the same way you couldn't double team Kobe when Shaq is on the floor. If you are doubling the man with the ball, you are going to be out of position to double Shaq. Who exactly does anyone fear on the Cavs court. He gets doubled and tripled. Until someone makes people pay for doing that, then they are going to be able to slow down Lebron from scoring in the big game moments.

 

Mark Cuban did this thing where he had people study the NBA and saw that players hit close to 65% of uncontested jumpshots. Something to do with trying to stress gettig your hands up to your team. WIDE OPEN players in the NBA seldom miss if they are a good shooter. You don't hope the refs make a call in the final seconds of a game over a wide open shot. That is just ridiculous.

 

And once again, you are only pointing out positives for other players and negatives for lebron. Why is it when Wade has only 14 against the same Chicago team and looked like trash the entire game, not just the 4th, its was okay. Or when he was simply looking lost against Dallas the other week when he scored 16 and almost none in the second half.

 

Or when Carmelo has dropped his 11-12 point games this year. He wasn't exactly 2nd half hero then.

 

At the same time, you don't bring up Lebron bringing the Cavs back from 17 down against the Suns...TWICE. He was carrying the team on his back in the 2nd half LAST WEEK, he has a couple of tough games and now something is wrong with his game and he is overrated?

 

65% of shots from what distance? A corner 3 is one of the hardest shots to make in the game even though it's the closest of the 3 point shots because you don't have much if any rim or backboard to work with. Most importantly, Flip Murray is not Reggie Miller or Ray Allen.

 

The Cavs were 30-20 last year and leading the division. . . they went 12-20 down the stretch and didn't make the playoffs. Sounds like a chokejob to me.

 

The Cavs had the same record, or maybe it was 30-21 that they mentioned, and were in the midst of a 5 game losing skid, and nearly choked a 25 point lead away just last night. They're under .500 w/o Hughes, and he's not coming back in the regular season. The numbers are there to say that they could very well miss the playoffs AGAIN even when being 10 over with about 30 to go.

 

'Melo and Wade haven't gagged away surefire playoff spots yet. When they do, I'll shit on them for playing poor down the stretch. When the "King" carries his team to a playoff spot on a good run instead of trying to backdoor his way in on a losing streak I'll praise him.

[Brett Favre 0]

So James made a bad play? Flip Murray was open as fuck, that was a nice pass.

[naiwf 0]

That was a good play because of the outcome. If Murray misses the shot, or the final play is his pass that was 3 feet behind Varejao, I'm sure you guys would still praise him because apparently LeBron can do no wrong. On the four previous possessions he could have iced the game but passed it up 3 times and didn't even touch the ball on the fourth one. He's scored 14 points in the last five 4th quarters (Flip had 11 yesterday) and his team nearly gave up a 25 point lead in the midst of a playoff push, but I forgot the rules of criticism do not apply to the anointed one. My humblest apologies. If there's anyone in the league needed to make the play that wins or loses it all, I'm now going with LeBron because that's what I've been instructed to do, and statistics be damned.

[Brett Favre 0]

The reason the outcome was good, was because the play was good. I don't see the reason to force up a shot with 3 guys all over you. Is that a good play? Because he's a star, he should shoot the ball with 3 defenders all over him? Explain this to me how it's a good play. I understand that he let them comeback or whatever, but the last time I checked, he made the game winning play. Great pass, end of story.

[Guest]

I hate jumping in this conversation, but no young player has the ability to make game winning shots at the beginning of his career. All you have to do is look at Kobe's airballs against Utah as proof, and those ones were wide open. Sometimes, the best play is the passive play, and only the best are able to do that.

[naiwf 0]

I hate jumping in this conversation, but no young player has the ability to make game winning shots at the beginning of his career. All you have to do is look at Kobe's airballs against Utah as proof, and those ones were wide open.

 

Carmelo and Wade have done so fairly consistently. My point is that I'd rather see someone like Kobe try and fail miserably, than not see a guy even attempt to put the team on his back when it really matters. LeBron is like Sammy Sosa or A-Rod, they put up huge stats but come up really fucking small when the team needs someone to make the big play. Flip Murray and Anderson Varejao shouldn't be taking game winning shots if LeBron has the ball in his hands most nights, and from what I've seen he's less likely to keep the ball and shoulder the blame than he is to be the one his franchise lives and dies by, which doesn't bode well for the Cavs should they ever make the playoffs.

[Adam 0]

Basically, you guys are arguing that LeBron's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He saw an open teammate, he passed away, Murray made the 3. They won the game. Get the fuck over it.

 

 

If he had driven to the basket and drawn contact, if he had set up a three point play, if he had missed it completely and got nothing, if he had missed both free throws. If my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle. The result is there, the Cavs won. That can't be debated.

[Brett Favre 0]

'Melo and Wade went to college, and had offenses structured around them for them to take those game winning shots. It's easier when you've done it before in tougher settings than high school ball. But that doesn't matter. Like it's been said, LeBron and the Cavs won the game, and if he passes the ball 10 out of 10 times for 10 game winning shots, i'm sure all Cav fans would take that.

[Brett Favre 0]

Stackhouse is pissed off at Dick Bavetta. Funny quote.

 

"Just call the fucking game. Fuck Dick Bavetta."

 

It's easy to tell what Jerry Stackhouse thinks is worse — official Dick Bavetta's bark or Robert Horry's bite.

 

According to a report in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Stackhouse had some unkind words for the veteran Bavetta after Thursday night's game between the Mavericks and the Spurs.

"Somebody saw Bavetta get off the bus (Wednesday) night and I thought, 'Oh, (expletive).' I knew what was coming," Stackhouse said.

 

"Every time we see him, he wants to grandstand the whole game. It's supposed to be about the Mavs and the Spurs. It's not about him. Just call the (expletive) game. (Expletive) Dick Bavetta."

 

Stackhouse was less forthcoming about a fourth-quarter altercation with Horry. While not conclusive, replays of the episode — which landed Stackhouse a double technical — seem to show Horry biting Stackhouse on the arm.

 

But when asked whether Horry bit him, Stackhouse would only say, "I didn't see that. But ask Dick Bavetta. He thinks he sees every-(expletive)-thing else."

 

According to Dallas owner Mark Cuban, the Mavs have already filed a complaint against Horry with the league. Cuban expects the Spurs reserve forward to be suspended for his role in the altercation.

[naiwf 0]

'Melo and Wade went to college, and had offenses structured around them for them to take those game winning shots. It's easier when you've done it before in tougher settings than high school ball. But that doesn't matter. Like it's been said, LeBron and the Cavs won the game, and if he passes the ball 10 out of 10 times for 10 game winning shots, i'm sure all Cav fans would take that.

 

Carmelo played one year of college ball (35 games), LeBron is now in his 3rd NBA season with almost 220 games played in an offense structured around him to take the game winning shot, what's the point there? Is he a slow learner or is 'Melo just more advanced? If Cleveland has to rely on Flip Murray and role players of that ilk to win all of their big games they won't ever be able to get out of the first round of the playoffs. But then again, I'd enjoy that so pass the ball LeBron, pass it all of the time.

[Brett Favre 0]

Didn't you see the King James commercial? Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. King James is an unselfish player. I don't understand how he made the wrong decision when they won the freaking game.

 

'Melo has played in playoff type atmosphere before. He's played in games where he was forced to take big shots. James never has till the NBA, and it isn't something you develop overnight. It takes years; I don't see the rush.

[Ripper 0]

I can't even believe that this conversation is even still going on.

 

Lebron has in the past and will in the future come up big in clutch situations. Both games agaisnt phoenix this year are examples of this. He will make great plays and he will make bad ones. Just like every other player in the league. The guy isn't overrated because of 2 or 3 bad games, which is what you are basing all this on.

 

You can't deny 31 7 7. You can't. A bad string of games doesn't make him some normal player.

 

And lets pretend that this is real life basketball for a second. Carmelo Anthony and Dwayne Wade have something that Lebron doesn't have. Teammates that people will stay at home on. Carmelo taking a contested shot from one guy isn't the same as James having 2-3 guys on him. There is a big difference between being the only viable offensive option and being one of many options. He is THE guy. He is the only guy. They send everything at him.

 

The guy made a play that led to them winning the game. Yet you are critisizing him for that. Then you are glossing over the fact that the other people you are mentioning have just as many bad games as he does...more actually. But they are above critisism? Is Lebron held to a higher standard for some reason? No one is saying that you can't call the guy on something, but you are only calling one guy on something that ALL your examples do. Plus you are lobbying for him to be, from your description, a pretty bad player (with the ignoring wide open teammates to take heavyly contested bad shots so he can be Mr. Hero)

 

I am just not understanding your logic that to be a great player Lebron has to play like a bad one.

[naiwf 0]

I can't even believe that this conversation is even still going on.

 

Lebron has in the past and will in the future come up big in clutch situations. Both games agaisnt phoenix this year are examples of this. He will make great plays and he will make bad ones. Just like every other player in the league. The guy isn't overrated because of 2 or 3 bad games, which is what you are basing all this on.

 

You can't deny 31 7 7. You can't. A bad string of games doesn't make him some normal player.

 

And lets pretend that this is real life basketball for a second. Carmelo Anthony and Dwayne Wade have something that Lebron doesn't have. Teammates that people will stay at home on. Carmelo taking a contested shot from one guy isn't the same as James having 2-3 guys on him. There is a big difference between being the only viable offensive option and being one of many options. He is THE guy. He is the only guy. They send everything at him.

 

The guy made a play that led to them winning the game. Yet you are critisizing him for that. Then you are glossing over the fact that the other people you are mentioning have just as many bad games as he does...more actually. But they are above critisism? Is Lebron held to a higher standard for some reason? No one is saying that you can't call the guy on something, but you are only calling one guy on something that ALL your examples do. Plus you are lobbying for him to be, from your description, a pretty bad player (with the ignoring wide open teammates to take heavyly contested bad shots so he can be Mr. Hero)

 

I am just not understanding your logic that to be a great player Lebron has to play like a bad one.

 

No, I just find it ridiculous that everyone is acting like LeBron not wanting to take the big shot is a good thing when someone else hits the game winner, but then talk out of the other side of their mouth and say he plays with a bunch of scrubs when they lose because someone else missed the big shot. I'm not denying his statsheet stuffing ability, I just don't think he's a good leader or a clutch player. 14 points in the last 5 4th quarters and not wanting to take a shot on the last 5 possessions yesterday is not something I expect from a guy people still want to talk about as an MVP candidate, especially when the team is sliding yet again. I'm not saying that he should jack up a shot just to get it up, but he cannot rely on a bunch of no names to bail him out all of the time because they are no names for a reason. As the only good player on the team he gets all the praise, but he should also get some criticism for the glaring holes in his game, but it seems like he's bulletproof because he's "only 21" or "only in his 3rd year", but 99% of the hype is BECAUSE he's "only 21" or "only in his 3rd year". I'm just tired of seeing the fucking guy everywhere, except coming up big in the 4th quarter of critical games.

[Brett Favre 0]

No one is saying he's the MVP.

[Dangerous A 0]

One thing being glossed over as far as LeBron being a clutch player are shots he's hit in the 4th quarter with 1-2 minutes left that put the nail in the coffin of a game. That can be seen as clutch as a last second game winner.

 

This year in Minn, LeBron scored the Cavs final 7 points in the last 2 and a half minutes, including the "nail in the coffin" driving layup to put the game out of reach. Those kind of clutch plays you don't hear a lot about (not just LeBron, but everyone in the NBA) on Sportscenter.

[Precious Roy 0]

No, I just find it ridiculous that everyone is acting like LeBron not wanting to take the big shot is a good thing when someone else hits the game winner, but then talk out of the other side of their mouth and say he plays with a bunch of scrubs when they lose because someone else missed the big shot.

 

WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING THIS?! WHO!!?? NOBODY SAID THIS! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?

 

We're saying he's playing with a bunch of players who defenses, at this point in time, don't respect. That's the same whether they win or lose last night's game. There's no Andre Miller, K-Mart and Camby who're demanding defensive attention, there's no Shaq collapsing the defense....it's "fuck you LeBron, you're not beating us tonight, we'll take our chances with Eric Snow and Flip Murray." If Flip Murray starts making those shots every night defenses start showing him more respect, and it makes LeBron's life easier, but if LeBron never puts him in that situation when Flip is open why should the defenses ever start to respect him? LeBron is trying to find his way and develop a winning team here. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. He's realized the right way to play at a young age, while some guys never do.

 

This is just common basketball sense. When the defense puts all it's attention on one player it's up to the other 4 guys to make them pay for it. LeBron, while he struggled with this, continued to attack in the proper manner. I'm sure if LeBron could get easy 1-1 looks he would take them, because that's the best play, but he wasn't getting them last night. It's amazing that LeBron is playing the game the right way and gets criticized for it. If you want to say he's passive and doesn't have what it takes to be a clutch player, fine, you can believe that. I'm sure the Cavs would have been much better off if he'd start jacking up 25 footers and forcing up acrobatic shots with 3 guys in his face. Be more like Kobe, because Kobe is such a great leader of men!

 

I'm glad Ripper came in today and cleaned up this bullshit naiwf is spewing. When I started on it last night I was hoping he'd come in here with his 2 cents, since he actually knows what he's talking about most of the time and won't jump on or off a bandwagon just to be contrary.

[naiwf 0]

WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING THIS?! WHO!!?? NOBODY SAID THIS! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?

 

Almost every sports analyst in the country. Within the last hour to be specific, John Saunders, Scottie Pippen, Tim Legler and Greg Anthony. Is that clear enough?

[Precious Roy 0]

 

WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING THIS?! WHO!!?? NOBODY SAID THIS! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?

 

Almost every sports analyst in the country. Within the last hour to be specific, John Saunders, Scottie Pippen, Tim Legler and Greg Anthony. Is that clear enough?

 

Who gives a fuck? What did I say in the first response I made to you?

 

"the media has unrealistic expectations, don't buy into that crap"

 

Notice something about all those guys you named? THEY'RE ALL ON ESPN!!!

 

ESPN drums up controversy to get ratings. They do this with all the major sports. It's all, "what have you done for us lately." Criticizing LeBron is sexy.

[naiwf 0]

None of those guys were criticizing him. They ended up criticizing Danny Ferry for not giving LeBron the pieces needed so that he's not a one man show. They fit in the camp that never get on LeBron. Wilbon is the only ESPN guy I see who goes after LeBron and says that Carmelo and Wade are better.

[Precious Roy 0]

None of those guys were criticizing him. They ended up criticizing Danny Ferry for not giving LeBron the pieces needed so that he's not a one man show. They fit in the camp that never get on LeBron. Wilbon is the only ESPN guy I see who goes after LeBron and says that Carmelo and Wade are better.

 

So what's the issue then? I agree that the ESPN guys talk out of both sides of their mouth, these are the same people who were praising Danny Ferry in the offseason for resigning Z and bringing in Hughes/Marshall/Jones. But, I don't see why you should be concerned with it or let it affect your perception of LeBron James. The reality is, right now they're getting absolutely nothing from those three FA signings, and the rest of the team isn't very good. Z is Z, he's solid but not a worldbeater. Snow is steady, nothing more. Flip, who just joined the team is already their 2nd most dangerous perimeter player.

 

This is the same kind of discussion that takes place regarding any superstar player who's the dominant personality on a team. Remember Jordan & The Jordanaires? That was the entire basis of the Detroit Pistons dominance of the Bulls. They said, "Jordan, fuck you, you won't beat us," and he didn't....until the rest of the Bulls, Scottie Pippen especially, stepped up around him. Part of the reason for all this, if you go by books like the Jordan Rules, was that early on Jordan was so strong willed, and often abusive of his teammates in practices, he was so demanding of them, because he was so demanding of himself, that they wilted under the pressure of playing with him. Eventually Jordan realized that his tough love needed a little more love and a little less tough...he started deferring to Pippen, trusting him more, he blossomed...the rest is history.

 

LeBron's a smart kid, he's not even trying to go through Jordan's growing pains of finding balance between dominant and deferrant, he's jumping right into picking spots and having complete trust in the guys on the court with him. That's going to pay off in the long run and will probably make him a winner earlier into his career than Jordan ever was, and it's why comparing LeBron to Magic Johnson is more accurate (or really more like a cross of Jordan and Magic). And right now, Kobe is guilty of pretty much everything that Jordan was guilty of, guys just standing around because they know they won't see the ball, Lamar Odom talking about how it's like "playing with god" etc. etc.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

28-30. We're movin' on up!

 

Go Clippers!

Go Warriors!

[Ripper 0]

The Suns get 20 points in 20 minutes out of Tim Thomas in his debut. Good...GOOOD.

[Precious Roy 0]

This Clippers-Jazz game has been really fucking good

 

Oh yeah, and FUCK Tim Thomas. Lazy motherfucker

[Brett Favre 0]

Tim Thomas will do well with the Suns. I always liked his game, even though he was inconsistent as hell. He can hit the 3, put the ball on the floor, and when he's feeling it, he'll post up. He'll thrive in that offense.

 

The Knicks blew the game today, but on the bright side, Franbury seems to be working well, problem is, we need to defend, and can use like 2 more big guy defenders.