TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Jeter is too jealous to be respectful of A-Rod. Damn Mr. Potato Head. What kind of leader forces the greatest SS of all-time to move to 3B. Let's not go nuts here. And when your national team is obsessed with playing the worst fielding CF in the majors, they're going to allow some runs. Who's that Al? Damon, Griffey? Haven't been watching much WBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Damon hasn't even been starting, he's been coming off the bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Who's that Al? Damon, Griffey? Haven't been watching much WBC. Griffey. Baseball Prospectus rated him 18 runs below average last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Griffey's the only bat that has produced for the US, so blaming him for bad fielding is a bit silly. If Griffey was riding the pine we'd have been out in the 1st Round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Hey Al, isn't the US squad a faily poor fielding team on the whole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Griffey's the only bat that has produced for the US, so blaming him for bad fielding is a bit silly. If Griffey was riding the pine we'd have been out in the 1st Round. I don't think so. Games are won and lost on both ends. All I think is that Griffey should be moved out of center in favor of one of the better CFs already on the team. Since he's a productive hitter, DH him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Hey Al, isn't the US squad a faily poor fielding team on the whole? I think so. Jeter's seen by some as below average. Chipper Jones is awful, as is Michael Young. Those guys along with Griffey play prime defensive positions. The 1B slot is excellent however, as is catcher defense with Brian Schneider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Although I don't see hardly any of their games, I thought that Chipper and Young were good with the glove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Griffey's the only bat that has produced for the US, so blaming him for bad fielding is a bit silly. If Griffey was riding the pine we'd have been out in the 1st Round. I don't think so. Games are won and lost on both ends. All I think is that Griffey should be moved out of center in favor of one of the better CFs already on the team. Since he's a productive hitter, DH him. Buck in his infinite wisdom has used Chipper (2x), A-Rod, D. Lee and Teixeira as his DH's so he can keep the secondary guy at the corner spot in the lineup throughout the game instead of putting in some defense. I just saw that Teixeira is 0-12 with 3 K's which is beyond pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Also, for people wondering about the US in this tournament. Japan plays Mexico today, and Korea tomorrow. If Japan wins both of these games, and the Korea game isn't like 8-7, or some high scoring shootout... the US is eliminated before even taking the field against Mexico on Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Although I don't see hardly any of their games, I thought that Chipper and Young were good with the glove. Young is awful, ranked at or near the bottom of shortstops in almost every defensive metric. One poster at BTF says his range best resembles a traffic cone. That the Rangers' pitching is always bad would seem to support this. Griffey has declined considerably in the field since his injuries. He used to be very good, but not any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2006 Dominicans/Venezuela tonight at 7pm ET, live on ESPN2. This is a strict elimination game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 VAMOS VENEZUELA!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Check local listings for Mexico/Japan. UPN 9 is airing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Let's go Nippon!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Memo to Gary Thorne, the Dominicans being a man short of a 30 man roster will probably not effect the outcome of the game. I'm sure they can finish a game with a measley 29 players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 You never know. That reminds me of that 20 something inning game like 20 years ago where Fernando Valenzuela had to play 2nd base. That was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 You never know. That reminds me of that 20 something inning game like 20 years ago where Fernando Valenzuela had to play 2nd base. That was great. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B06030HOU1989.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 It was 1B... well, I was close. I just remember the little tubby feebly making an attempt to jump for a ball going to right field. Oh, and why couldn't Mexico save Loaiza until the US game? :anger: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Daniel Cabrera looked awesome tonight. Hopefully he can carry some of that into the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Man, the ump's strike zone sure has tightened up this inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Man, the ump's strike zone sure has tightened up this inning. I thought he was making good calls, honestly. VERY tense game, came down to the wire. Can't wait for PR vs. Cuba tomorrow, and Korea vs. Japan is gonna be a good one (Can Korea remain undefeated in the WBC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Dominicans advance with a 2-1 victory over Venezuela. Tomorrow is PR/Cuba and Korea/Japan. Both games will be televised somewhere besides English language television. PR/Cuba is another straight up elimination game. The United States almost entirely need a Korean victory in order to have a shot at advancing. However, the U.S. could also have a chance to advance if Japan truly clobbers Korea to the tune of eight runs allowed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Man, the ump's strike zone sure has tightened up this inning. I thought he was making good calls, honestly. In that last inning, definitely. I was more commenting on the fact that in every other inning, his strike zone seemed ridiculously loose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 In that last inning, definitely. I was more commenting on the fact that in every other inning, his strike zone seemed ridiculously loose. Well then I'd agree with you 100% there. I was mostly just listening to the first 7 innings of the game, but the 7 k's by Daniel Cabrera seemed a bit odd, and I did see some of those pitches. ...I REALLY want to see Korea vs. Japan tomorrow...wish they'd broadcast the game thing live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Japan beats Mexico, 6-1. Just need a 4-3ish win over Korea tomorrow, guys. Plus, Korea basically has nothing to play for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Are they going to change up the brackets for the next tournament? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Nope. The top 2 teams in each group play each other in the SF's. This format was not created to give the US the advantage of playing none of the Hispanic teams until the final. Of course not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Nope. The top 2 teams in each group play each other in the SF's. This format was not created to give the US the advantage of playing none of the Hispanic teams until the final. Of course not. Actually considering the geographic locations of everywhere, the brackets were chosen pretty smart (Other than italy, south africa, and netherlands, they weren't going to win anyhow) All the latin teams WANT to play each other. That's BIG down there. If you take the usa (and maybe even mexico then) out of the bracket we're in, that makes it WAY too heavy on one side with quality teams (And it already is pretty heavy to the latin side) I think it's just fine, I mean the u.s. isn't even likely to MAKE the semifinals at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 15, 2006 I agree about the Latin teams wanting to play each other... but, I don't see why it couldn't be A1 vs. B2 and A2 vs. B1 in the semifinal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
