Ice Cube to star in urban remake of Welcome Back, Kotter

[spman 0]

http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html&ref...69&ref_type=101

 

While this isn't nearly as egregious as last summers Honeymooners film, it's still pretty bad. Imagine the uproar in the African American community if a movie producer decided he was going to make a Sanford and Son film starring Ben and Jerry Stiller, or The Jeffersons with Steve Martin and Goldie Hawn? It really is a double standard if you ask me.

[Damaramu 0]

This makes no sense. What is with the urbanization of old TV and movies?

Like Blackerella or the Wizard of Black or whatever those remakes of Wizard of Oz and Cinderella were.

[Damaramu 0]

And how does Washington become the token black guy if Mr. Kotter is black!?

[Special K 0]

"You've been watching Blackenstein, and Blacula. Up next, the Blunch Black of Blotre Blame."

[Dangerous A 0]

Throw out the black/white racial part.

 

 

This sounds like a stupid idea, period. WBK shouldn't be remade no matter who is doing it.

[spman 0]

Throw out the black/white racial part.

 

 

This sounds like a stupid idea, period. WBK shouldn't be remade no matter who is doing it.

 

I could see them doing like a TV Movie or something with the original cast showing what their characters are doing today, and attending a class reunion or something, but not a feature film.

[Ravenbomb 0]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!

 

 

On the bright side, the best sitcom ever might finally get season sets put out

[Guest NYankees]

Hey dont forget that Cedric the entertainer is doing the remake of Back to School.

[LivingLegendGaryColeman 0]

And how does Washington become the token black guy if Mr. Kotter is black!?

 

I'm thinking Washington will be the token Wigger, but that's just my speculation.

[Angle-plex 0]

This will be a huge blackbuster.

[Ripper 0]

Everytime a remake starring black people get made, the same stupid ass thread comes up.

 

We get it. Them hollywood blacks need to stay in their place and leave the white folks movies alone.

[Damaramu 0]

No how about they come up with their own damn ideas instead of creating an urbanization of every damn classic TV show. Welcome Back Kotter was urban enough anyway dammit.

It's just more evidence for the "Hollywood can think of nothing original" argument. Next thing you know there'll be a Latino remake of Dick Van Dyke. How about a white remake of the Jeffersons?

[Ripper 0]

So you really don't realize how what you just said was stupid.

 

"They" make a remake of a URBAN COMDEY into another URBAN COMEDY.

 

Honeymooners was also a URBAN COMEDY about a broke ass busdriver and his brokeass friends living in the broke ass side of town.

 

These concepts are not built upon race.

 

I will ignore the dumb as Dick Van Dyke comment...

 

But the Jeffersons was about a black family making money and moving into the all white upper class side of town. How the fuck can you remake that without the people being black?

 

Black 70's sitcoms were completely built upon the race of the characters because they had to be. Other sitcoms were not. A "white" remake of the Jeffersons or Goodtimes makes no fucking sense. The struggles of the white man trying to make it out the ghetto is fucking stupid.

 

And last but not least, white people have been remaking the Cosby show every since that fucker premiered and you don't hear anyone bitching about that.

 

 

My problem with this stupid ass thread is it isn't bitching about another remake that will probably suck, its that you guys are bitching because black people are remaking it thus meaning it will be bad and a disgrace to the proud whites that made it originally. Be proud of making a racist thread all you want. You still look like a bunch of idiots for it.

[2GOLD 0]

Ice Cube is better than this. That's my only problem with it. He can do so much better.

[Damaramu 0]

There's nothing racist about it. The shows were about white characters just as the Jeffersons was about black characters. They're remaking it into a movie with black characters now b/c of one of the several 1,000 idiotic hollywood reasons such as:

-People pay more to see black people b/c they're hip

-They were oppressed so we have to kiss their ass now or else they'll go all black panther on us

-Black people are cooler than white people b/c of their skin color

And other assorted dumbass reasons hollywood has for this shit.

 

Besides why would anyone accept your ideas on race Ripper?

I could be shot by a black man. I could be looking at him the entire time he shoots me and when it goes to trial you'd be screaming about how the white man is holding the black man down and I'm a racist. Seriously look at yourself. Anytime race is brought up no matter how wrong we can all expect for Ripper to run in an champion the cause even when he doesn't need to, such as in this case.

[Special K 0]

Wow, overreaction. EDIT: Wow, even bigger overreaction, Dama.

 

I hate that they're making all these remakes of fucking sitcoms in the first place.

 

TV remakes, video game remakes, foreign remakes and sequels seem to comprise just a huge part of Hollywood movies nowadays.

 

And remaking the Jeffersons with a family of white rednecks is about as faithful to the original as remaking The Honeymooners with Cedric the Entertainer, who I do think is funny (though I haven't seen the movie). Ralph Kramden has pretty much become a white working class 50's stereotype. The character and the actor are comic classics.

 

I think Welcome back Kotter can work. But yeah, remaking the Honeymooners with anyone but Jackie Gleason is pretty much heresy, as much as making Sanford Son with anyone but Redd Foxx would be. Jackie Gleason was the shit. They're both iconic comic figures. You wouldn't remake I love Lucy without Lucy, you wouldn't remake the Cosby show without Bill Cosby.

[Gary Floyd 0]

I honestly could care less. It's not like I'm going to see it. Also, if you go to see it just to complain about it, then you automatically fail at life.

[Damaramu 0]

Well why don't we remake I Love Lucy with Beyonce as Lucy? And The Cosby Show with Steve Martin?

[Annabelle 0]

leave these classic shows alone. kotter is amazing. doesn't the black community already have highschool high, anyway? they're gonan turn kotter into boston public. please lord, NO.

[Special K 0]

I honestly could care less

 

OH NO YOU DIDN'T.

[Angle-plex 0]

Dama is ready to riot over this.

[Damaramu 0]

Well if black people can get all up in arms over something they perceive as a slight against their race then so can I!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I hope Ripper doesn't bring any open-lid drinks into a library anytime soon.

 

Wait a second, Ripper don't read no books.

 

Honeymooners was also a URBAN COMEDY about a broke ass busdriver and his brokeass friends living in the broke ass side of town.

 

What sums up my feelings on this remake was a clip of "Ed" and "Ralph" hanging on a fire escape, and "Ed" said something about how he's had "thoughts" of "Ralph's wife." (Can't remember if they used these names in the shitty remake.)

 

Coming from a longtime fan and someone who has the Honeymooners series on DVD, that scene tells me all I need to know about how horrible this abortion of a remake is.

 

And when are we going to have a whites-only remake of "Homeboys in Outer Space"?

 

EDIT: Oh, Ripper, I just checked out that hippie throw-back-t's Web site; do you design those, or are they fenced?

[Dangerous A 0]

So you really don't realize how what you just said was stupid.

 

"They" make a remake of a URBAN COMDEY into another URBAN COMEDY.

 

Honeymooners was also a URBAN COMEDY about a broke ass busdriver and his brokeass friends living in the broke ass side of town.

 

These concepts are not built upon race.

 

I will ignore the dumb as Dick Van Dyke comment...

 

But the Jeffersons was about a black family making money and moving into the all white upper class side of town. How the fuck can you remake that without the people being black?

 

Black 70's sitcoms were completely built upon the race of the characters because they had to be. Other sitcoms were not. A "white" remake of the Jeffersons or Goodtimes makes no fucking sense. The struggles of the white man trying to make it out the ghetto is fucking stupid.

 

And last but not least, white people have been remaking the Cosby show every since that fucker premiered and you don't hear anyone bitching about that.

 

 

My problem with this stupid ass thread is it isn't bitching about another remake that will probably suck, its that you guys are bitching because black people are remaking it thus meaning it will be bad and a disgrace to the proud whites that made it originally. Be proud of making a racist thread all you want. You still look like a bunch of idiots for it.

 

 

I hope to God you were not talking about me. Just saying.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Yes he was.

[chaosrage 0]

Black 70's sitcoms were completely built upon the race of the characters because they had to be. Other sitcoms were not.

 

Sanford and Son? You're the idiot here if you think people wouldn't be bitching just as much if Sanford and Son was turned to an all white cast.

 

The sad thing is if Sanford and Son did have a white remake, you would probably be on the other side complaining about how racist it is and calling everyone that defended it a racist.

[Special K 0]

I want an all-white remake of Blacula.

[Ripper 0]

Wow, overreaction. EDIT: Wow, even bigger overreaction, Dama.

 

I hate that they're making all these remakes of fucking sitcoms in the first place.

 

TV remakes, video game remakes, foreign remakes and sequels seem to comprise just a huge part of Hollywood movies nowadays.

 

And remaking the Jeffersons with a family of white rednecks is about as faithful to the original as remaking The Honeymooners with Cedric the Entertainer, who I do think is funny (though I haven't seen the movie). Ralph Kramden has pretty much become a white working class 50's stereotype. The character and the actor are comic classics.

 

I think Welcome back Kotter can work. But yeah, remaking the Honeymooners with anyone but Jackie Gleason is pretty much heresy, as much as making Sanford Son with anyone but Redd Foxx would be. Jackie Gleason was the shit. They're both iconic comic figures. You wouldn't remake I love Lucy without Lucy, you wouldn't remake the Cosby show without Bill Cosby.

 

 

A: Not a overreaction.

 

B: SEE what you did there. If you have a problem with remakes, then fine. I Hate all these shows being made into remakes. FINE. But this thread isn't saying "wow another crappy remake" its "Those damn blacks making movies that white people need to star in". Its stupid and since this is like the 3rd thread of its kind, its 3 times as stupid.

 

C: Remaking the Jefferson with white rednecks would be the Beverly Hillbillies, which is pretty much the concept the Jeffersons were ripping off anyway.

 

D: I don't deny that Jackie Gleason was the shit. So was 90% of the people that were the stars of most of the original sitcoms that are being remade (not on the level of Gleason but still).

 

I never said I like the idea of the movie. I have no intrest in ever seeing the Honeymooners remake or this (despite thinking Cedric and Mike Epps are hilarious that movie looks like trash). My point is instead of bitching about the dozens of remakes made every couple of years, the best thing that could be come up with for the topic of this thread was the race of the people making this particular movie. Blacks didn't have sitcoms way back in the day so if black actors are going to rip off old sitcoms, they are going to star white people.

 

Heresy was making a crappy movie and putting the name Honeymooners on it, not the amount of melanin in the skin of the actors who made it. I mean, was Blues Brothers 2000 or whatever the fuck it was okay because of white people in it?

[Ripper 0]

So you really don't realize how what you just said was stupid.

 

"They" make a remake of a URBAN COMDEY into another URBAN COMEDY.

 

Honeymooners was also a URBAN COMEDY about a broke ass busdriver and his brokeass friends living in the broke ass side of town.

 

These concepts are not built upon race.

 

I will ignore the dumb as Dick Van Dyke comment...

 

But the Jeffersons was about a black family making money and moving into the all white upper class side of town. How the fuck can you remake that without the people being black?

 

Black 70's sitcoms were completely built upon the race of the characters because they had to be. Other sitcoms were not. A "white" remake of the Jeffersons or Goodtimes makes no fucking sense. The struggles of the white man trying to make it out the ghetto is fucking stupid.

 

And last but not least, white people have been remaking the Cosby show every since that fucker premiered and you don't hear anyone bitching about that.

 

 

My problem with this stupid ass thread is it isn't bitching about another remake that will probably suck, its that you guys are bitching because black people are remaking it thus meaning it will be bad and a disgrace to the proud whites that made it originally. Be proud of making a racist thread all you want. You still look like a bunch of idiots for it.

 

 

I hope to God you were not talking about me. Just saying.

 

 

No, you are one of the only people to get it right. Fuck black/white, these remakes are fucking stupid.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

For anyone that saw the Honeymooners movie, does Cedric promise his wife the moon, or something of the sort?