RIP Proof from D-12

[Hawk 34 0]

Funny...rappers make careers out of glorifying and talking about the "gangsta" lifestyle, and then when they die violently, people are surprised.

I know, lol, like when the average joe down the street dies of something like a common disease or one of a million daily car accidents, he was leading a normal life, he should expect a normal death, and people have the nerve to act surprised, lol, stupid people!

f'n idiot

 

 

I had a much longer and angrier rant to respond to this but then I chose to ignore it. That won't stop me from highlighting what you said though.

 

It's like when rock stars die of a over-dose, people make similar statements like that.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Not really. A rock star dying of an overdose is a self-inflicted death. Getting shot in a club isn't, unless you believe that all rappers run around threatening each other and having shootouts in the street. And if you believe that, you're way out of touch.

[Carnival 0]

Not really. A rock star dying of an overdose is a self-inflicted death. Getting shot in a club isn't, unless you believe that all rappers run around threatening each other and having shootouts in the street. And if you believe that, you're way out of touch.

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[Shooting Star 0]

Wow this is really sad....and what makes it more weird is that he got shot killed in the video for Like Toy Soldiers.

 

I really hope they edit future showings of the video...it would be too painful for family members to see that.

[Carnival 0]

ya damn i never thought about the video possibly being played again. I am the only one who think it's extra fucked up he was shot in the head? and the other guy was too, so i wonder how it was done? Did the dude have really good fucking aim or what?

 

Well if you haven’t heard yet the world has lost, in my opinion, a very special individual early Tuesday morning. His name was Deshaun Holton but most of you know him as “Proof” from the group D-12. He was unfortunately shot and killed in a club on eight mile in Detroit, Michigan. Me and Jamie want to extend our deepest regrets and condolences to his family, friends and relatives and know that we are truly saddened by this tragedy. A lot of you don’t know that we recently got to sit with him in the studio to do a song for our new record and we hit it off really well. He liked what we were doing so much that he said he wanted to go on the road with us and we were in disbelief. Let's not kid our selves here, Proof is a lot bigger than we even dream about being and that’s not taking anything from us I'm just keeping it real. He said he was seriously diggin' what we had going over at the Hatchet and said he was down for whatever. After long negotiations Monday night with him and his manager we finally had a game plan in place and at 12:30 a.m. we called it a night. I wake up to take my daughter to school and I'm hit with this unbelievable tragedy. Just know he had love for all of us and made it a point to try and show it in the little time we got to spend with him just how much. From the bottom of our hearts we thank him and all his peers for everything that we were able to do together before he was selfishly taken out of all of our lives. His memory will live with us forever. God bless him and his family.

[2GOLD 0]

More than likely the guy just walked either up behind them or walked by and turned. I'd have to say it was a close range shot, execution style. For all anyone knows, it could have just been a stick-up gone horribly wrong. I really don't think we'll ever know.

[Special K 0]

That was actually really nice from Monoxide Child.

[Carnival 0]

An altercation inside a Detroit nightclub led to the death of D-12 rapper Proof after an argument allegedly turned into a gunfight, leaving a bouncer wounded, according to sources.

 

A source that requested anonymity told AllHipHop.com that Proof was in the club after-hours when a heated verbal argument between Proof and a bouncer allegedly broke out and escalated.

 

Proof was shot and killed around 4:30 am on April 11 and the bouncer was seriously wounded, both with gunshots to the head.

 

"Proof knocked dude down and stood over him with gun in hand," a source close to Proof told AllHipHop.com. "Proof shot first. The bouncer on the ground didn't shoot Proof another bouncer did. Proof was shot 4 times. Twice in the head and twice in the chest/stomach area."

 

Police have identified the second man as 35-year-old Keith Bender.

 

Bender is alive, but is still in critical condition.

 

"Dude [bender] is on life support and not expected to live at all," the source continued.

 

Investigators are still trying to piece together details of the shooting but have stated they believe two guns were used in the shooting.

 

According to sources, Proof was licensed to carry his weapon.

 

Officers have frequently been called to the club, taking 18 incident reports since 1996.

 

The club was raided in December of 2005 for selling alcohol to minors and Proof's murder was the third time a shooting had occurred at or near the club.

 

"All this s**t is senseless and real f**ed up. Proof was a longtime friend who wouldn't stay the f**k out the hood. To many jealous people in the hood mad cause you made it.

 

"8 Mile [road] near Hayes on Detroit's Eastside at 4 am in the morning? That Triple C spot always has drama up there. Why was he there?" the source continued.

 

The police questioned one witness in the case and seek to speak to others to find suspects.

 

The club did not have a video surveillance system police, officers revealed.

 

Proof served as Eminem's best man in the rapper's short-lived wedding to Kim Mathers.

 

The rapper, whose real name is Deshaun Holtoon, leaves behind five children.

take with a grain of salt

[Guest NYankees]

The ap is also saying that proof shoot first. If that is the case good riddance, he wasn't a special individual that some would like you to believe.

[Guest The Satanic Angel]

Your grain of salt has become a big salt lick.

 

CNN.com

 

DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- Rapper Proof fired the first bullet in a Detroit nightclub shootout that ended his life, police said Wednesday.

 

The bullet hit Keith Bender, 35, in the head, critically injuring him early Tuesday at the C.C.C., a bar in a strip of businesses along Eight Mile, the road made famous in Eminem's movie of the same name.

 

Proof, whose real name is Deshaun Holton, was taken to a nearby outpatient treatment center by a private car, where he was pronounced dead.

 

Detectives are currently trying to figure out who shot Proof, said Detroit police spokesman Sgt. Omar Feliciano. He said his office was told by homicide detectives that Proof fired the first shot at Bender.

 

Feliciano said no further information has been released.

 

Proof, 32, was a member of the rap group D12 and was the best man in Eminem's January wedding. Eminem was seldom seen in public without Proof.

 

Police said officers responding to 911 calls about 4:30 a.m. Tuesday found the bar empty when they arrived.

 

Bender also was taken to a hospital by a private car.

 

Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings said Tuesday that detectives don't know what Proof was doing at the bar, which was operating outside of its licensed hours.

 

Investigators face a unique challenge because no victims were present at the crime scene, Bully-Cummings said.

 

Police have said that an argument between two parties at the club escalated into gunfire.

[2GOLD 0]

If all of this is true, he threw away his career and his life over an argument with someone at a cheap nightclub. There is nothing more you can say as it would rank as one of the stupidest things a person could ever do. You spend all that time working your ass off to make it and when you do, you flush it all to prove how much of a big man you are.

[MikeJordan23 0]

So you get one little report, have no idea the situation, and already coming to these conclusions? Slow down. You have no clue what predicament he was even in to begin with. It could've been self defense for all we know. Just cause he shot first, doesn't mean he pulled out his gun first.

[2GOLD 0]

So you get one little report, have no idea the situation, and already coming to these conclusions? Slow down. You have no clue what predicament he was even in to begin with. It could've been self defense for all we know. Just cause he shot first, doesn't mean he pulled out his gun first.

 

Being the first shot eliminates self defense. And I still said "IF" the account of the story is true. Everyone on the planet needs to learn that when an argument is reaching a bad stage, to just drop it and get the fuck out. Especially in the profession he is in and the area he was in.

 

I really really hope it's not true cause I thought Proof was a smart man. The last thing I want and I'm sure the last thing his family wants is for this to come down that their son tried to murder another man and lost his life in a situation like this.

[Guest NYankees]

Things happen when you carry a gun around and wave it around. You are bound to either kill someone or get killed yourself. Proof has a chance to be a murderer if the person they said he shot dies. When you live by the gun you die by the gun.

[MikeJordan23 0]

So you get one little report, have no idea the situation, and already coming to these conclusions? Slow down. You have no clue what predicament he was even in to begin with. It could've been self defense for all we know. Just cause he shot first, doesn't mean he pulled out his gun first.

 

Being the first shot eliminates self defense.

 

How you figure? If you're being physically attack, you are, by law, allowed to use what is deemed as "accessive force" to protect yourself. We still don't know anything aside from him shooting the guy first. The guy could've beat his ass and then pulled out a gun. And Proof reacted, and pulled out his gun and shot first.

[CBright7831 0]

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the evidence against Proof is coming out, and it's not looking good. From the looks of things, he got into a scuffle and shot a bouncer on the ground first before one of the bouncer's men shot Proof in the back of the head. Proof was a good MC and seemed like a cool person, but if that's what happened, then it's going to be hard to mourn over someone who did that.

[MikeJordan23 0]

Things happen when you carry a gun around and wave it around. You are bound to either kill someone or get killed yourself. Proof has a chance to be a murderer if the person they said he shot dies. When you live by the gun you die by the gun.

 

How are you jumping to conclusions he was "waving it around?" WTF? Where'd you read that?

[MikeJordan23 0]

Haha.

 

I just got banned from D12World ( I used to post there when I was a big Eminem fan) because I said:

 

Not only did he ruin his friends and family lifes by being stupid, but he may have ruined other lifes also.

I know that's where Proof used to post, but let's be real, if he did shoot first, then he got what was coming to him.

 

You're as ignorant as you were on SOHH.com

[ZGangsta 0]

So you get one little report, have no idea the situation, and already coming to these conclusions? Slow down. You have no clue what predicament he was even in to begin with. It could've been self defense for all we know. Just cause he shot first, doesn't mean he pulled out his gun first.

 

Being the first shot eliminates self defense.

 

How you figure? If you're being physically attack, you are, by law, allowed to use what is deemed as "accessive force" to protect yourself. We still don't know anything aside from him shooting the guy first. The guy could've beat his ass and then pulled out a gun. And Proof reacted, and pulled out his gun and shot first.

Dude, what the fuck is 'accessive force.' The word 'accessive' isn't in the dictionary. (Ok it's in some dictionaries, but it means additional)

Assuming you ment 'excessive force' that still doesn't make any sense because the 'excessive force' means you used more force than was necessary. And you're definately not "by-law" (as you put it) allowed to use it to protect yourself. That's why it's called excessive force.

 

And if cnn's report is the truth then this guy deserved it.

[Carnival 0]

Assuming you ment 'excessive force'

"meant" instead of "ment"

if you're gonna be a spelling nazi......

[2GOLD 0]

So you get one little report, have no idea the situation, and already coming to these conclusions? Slow down. You have no clue what predicament he was even in to begin with. It could've been self defense for all we know. Just cause he shot first, doesn't mean he pulled out his gun first.

 

Being the first shot eliminates self defense.

 

How you figure? If you're being physically attack, you are, by law, allowed to use what is deemed as "accessive force" to protect yourself. We still don't know anything aside from him shooting the guy first. The guy could've beat his ass and then pulled out a gun. And Proof reacted, and pulled out his gun and shot first.

 

Again, I say IF the story I'm hearing is true. And nothing really mentions much of anything other than argument, Proof pulled gun and fired. IF that is true, he's an idiot. If he was attacked in some way first, yes then I'll agree it was self defense. Excessive possibly but self defense. If he wasn't attacked, no I won't agree with self defense. I'm not sure what the law is in Detriot either.

 

I'm still holding out hope that this is just rumor and it was something else other than what is being reported. At the very least that the other guy fired first or jumped him as he was leaving and Proof reacted. The way they are framing it now, and I am not saying it's true cause I don't know all the facts but if it is then Proof fucked up.

[ZGangsta 0]

Assuming you ment 'excessive force'

"meant" instead of "ment"

if you're gonna be a spelling nazi......

Touche salesman...

[Ripper 0]

All I will say is this. Proof has been registered to have a gun since his altercation with Royce da 5'9 a few years back. They came to blows, straight up brawling and he didn't pull out his gun (which was on him) and try to murder the dude.

 

I don't doubt that the other bouncers felt they had to shoot him to save other dude, but when you have a guy with a history of getting in altercations, having his gun on him and never pulling it, you best believe there had to be some reason he was trying to take this guys life. I will wait till the whole story comes out, but I am going to guarentee it wasn't a case of "they were arguring and Proof started trying to kill muthafuckas.

 

On top of all this, if this story is true, if Proof just started shooting people in the head and he had to be shot to stop him, then why did whoever shoot him not turn themselves in? They hauled ass and the police are having to find witnesses to determine who shot him.

[Annabelle 0]

i like the story how he stood over top the bouncer laying on the ground then simply shot him in the head. thats gangsta.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Which all ties into what I said before...

[bob_barron 0]

That you're an idiot?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

No...that this guy made a living off this whole gangsta image, then tried to live it out and got killed, and for some reason people are shocked. These reports are all the Proof you need.

[Brett Favre 0]

You don't know what happened. Shaddup. If hes registered to have a gun, and never used it, like Ripper said, something must have been up. Let the whole story come out.

 

If the guy was acting in self defense, he would have been identified by now. Since he's hiding, he probably did some stupid shit.

[Annabelle 0]

No...that this guy made a living off this whole gangsta image, then tried to live it out and got killed, and for some reason people are shocked. These reports are all the Proof you need.

 

the invader3k should have a tea party with czech republic.

[CBright7831 0]

There are so many people in this thread that I wouldn't think of as rap fans or for matter know who the hell Proof is. It's surprising to say the least.

 

Anyway, the guy that shot him turned himself in...

 

(Detroit News - April 12th)

 

A suspect in the slaying of rapper Proof turned himself in to police for questioning Wednesday afternoon, authorities said.

 

The man, who police did not identify, was accompanied by his attorney, authorities said.

 

Proof, 32, was shot to death Tuesday morning at CCC, a private club on Eight Mile, after he apparently shot and killed an Army veteran in a dispute, police have said.

 

By the time police responded to the shooting, about 5 a.m., the club was empty and Proof and Keith Bender Jr. were both taken to area hospitals, authorities said. Each man had gunshot wounds to their head.

 

Bender, 35, was taken off life support on Wednesday morning but remained alive, a family member said. He is a former medic for the Army and a veteran of Operation Desert Storm. He left the military because of heart problems, his family has said.

 

He was at the club to celebrate news that his heart condition had improved, his sister-in-law told The Detroit News.

 

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...PDATE/604120440