Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2007 This moronic debate about "The Most Clutch Active Player". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Let me guess, it's between Jeter and Brady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Let me guess, it's between Jeter and Brady. Kobe was included. They mentioned a hockey player but forgot about him as it went into a full blown Jeter Vs Brady debate between Phillips and Salisbury. Phillips claim was "BUT BRADY WASN'T IN THE PRO BOWL" and Fat Boy replies "Well, who does Tom Brady have to play with" while some guy kept shouting "81 POINTS!" in support of Kobe and the mullet just sat there stunned he was on tv in the afternoon. It was a mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 11, 2007 They did it with all the sports? Heh. Salisbury, Phillips and hopefully Screamin' A? I must watch this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 They did it with all the sports? Heh. Salisbury, Phillips and hopefully Screamin' A? I must watch this. It wasn't Screamin' A. He wasn't swinging off Iverson's nuts. It was some retired player, I can't bother to remember who it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Hockey? ESPN mentioned hockey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I wonder who'd even be considering clutch in hockey now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 It was a Goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Brodeur? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I'm actually trying to figure out what exactly Brady has ever done that is SO clutch. He mostly led the Pats into some semblance of FG range so that Vinatieri could be clutch. The snow game vs. the Raiders, Super Bowl vs. Rams, SB vs. Panthers....I'd say any semi decent journeyman NFL QB could get a team into range for a FG. Wake me up when Brady actually leads them on an 80 yard drive for a winning score when the Pats are down 4. This is a more technical complaint than anything, but ESPN is really goofy when it comes to using HD. God knows EVERY single Duke game must be shown in HD as to not offend Vitale or Coach K. Last week they showed Duke squashing Temple in HD, while IU vs. OSU was flat. I mean WTF? Tonight of course they had Duke vs. GA Tech in HD, but I can at least see that one. Yet OK St. vs. Kansas was flat....meanwhile a trivial Pitt/DePaul game was in HD. Who the fuck comes up with this stuff? I'd say a notable Big 10 clash with IU/OSU is more important than a Duke squash, and certainly a top 10 Big 12 matchup is more HD worthy than a Pitt snoozer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy8271 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I love that on ATH today, Cowlishaw took his whole face time to mention the NHL all star game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I'm actually trying to figure out what exactly Brady has ever done that is SO clutch. He mostly led the Pats into some semblance of FG range so that Vinatieri could be clutch. The snow game vs. the Raiders, Super Bowl vs. Rams, SB vs. Panthers....I'd say any semi decent journeyman NFL QB could get a team into range for a FG. Wake me up when Brady actually leads them on an 80 yard drive for a winning score when the Pats are down 4. This is a more technical complaint than anything, but ESPN is really goofy when it comes to using HD. God knows EVERY single Duke game must be shown in HD as to not offend Vitale or Coach K. Last week they showed Duke squashing Temple in HD, while IU vs. OSU was flat. I mean WTF? Tonight of course they had Duke vs. GA Tech in HD, but I can at least see that one. Yet OK St. vs. Kansas was flat....meanwhile a trivial Pitt/DePaul game was in HD. Who the fuck comes up with this stuff? I'd say a notable Big 10 clash with IU/OSU is more important than a Duke squash, and certainly a top 10 Big 12 matchup is more HD worthy than a Pitt snoozer. Brady won 3 super bowls, and has proven to be one of the best QB's in the league. I hate using the term "clutch", and hate the Patriots and Massholes even more, but Brady deserves all the praise he gets. Except for the Pro Bowl, it was right to leave him out this year. Duke is the most popular and most successful team in college basketball. That's why they get all the perks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I love that on ATH today, Cowlishaw took his whole face time to mention the NHL all star game. He's the only one that gives a fuck. Everyone else faux falls asleep or he gets deducted points whenever he mentions hockey. I like the other guys, but that's one of the few things I hate about ATH, their anti-hockeyness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy8271 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 ESPN only hates hockey because they couldn't get ratings out of it. They only have Barry Melrose on what 2 days a week? And when he's on, they have him with Bill Walton so people won't change the channel. Is hockey even on NBC anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I for one am happy that ESPN got it right for once, as Tom Brady is the best NFL QB since Joe Montana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Is hockey even on NBC anymore? though I don't know the exact date, they've been advertising a "Game of the Week" during their Sunday night broadcasts to be starting soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Yeah, hockey on NBC starts back up this Saturday. I believe Philadelphia vs. Pittsburgh is the main game, but they also list two other games that I suppose will be shown in certain areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I know it's been said before, but hockey just isn't a good TV game...not for me anyway. However, I love going to local NCAA games featuring the University of Nebraska-Omaha Mavericks. Fun stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 *sigh* I thought "clutchiness" only applied to baseball. In basketball, it's basically whoever ends up with the ball last. In football, it would basically be a quarterback by default. Stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 nah, I'd lean more towards kickers than QBs...if Tom Brady fucks up a last minute drive, ah well, it's okay. If Mike Vanderjagt fucks up a last second field goal in the playoffs it's cutsville. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 nah, I'd lean more towards kickers than QBs...if Tom Brady fucks up a last minute drive, ah well, it's okay. If Mike Vanderjagt fucks up a last second field goal in the playoffs it's cutsville. Only because it's easier to find a good kicker than a good starting QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 nah, I'd lean more towards kickers than QBs...if Tom Brady fucks up a last minute drive, ah well, it's okay. If Mike Vanderjagt fucks up a last second field goal in the playoffs it's cutsville. Only because it's easier to find a good kicker than a good starting QB. I'm not so sure about the GOOD kicker part... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 The idea of clutch in football is stuff like Joe Montana driving the Niners down the field against the Bengals and scoring a TD. Or Vinatieri's FG in the snow vs. Oakland. Brady is a really good QB, but I haven't seen him do anything amazingly clutch, mainly because he hasn't had to all that often in big games. And Duke? This isn't 15 years ago, when Duke had all sorts of lame bandwagon fans, even where I live. What is this notion that Duke is the most successful team in college hoops? UCLA, UK, UNC, IU...all have more national titles than Duke. My point originally though was that if Duke is playing a quality opponent, then put them in HD (UNC, MD, GA Tech, etc.). If there is a better game on that night like IU vs. OSU, then put that game in HD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 11, 2007 Over the past 20 years (which is when college basketball grew most in popularity), Duke has been the most successful team by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I know that the ESPN Insider blows in general. But I just found the awesomeness that is Bill Simmons, and pisses me off to no end that I cant read an article of his more than a couple of months old without being an Insider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2007 I hate that the whole site now seems to be Insider Only. Especially chats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 12, 2007 Quite Frankly got cancelled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 12, 2007 ESPN still has coverage of the Aussie Open. C'mon, I know they want to give it up. And the Tennis Channel would take it in a heartbeat. And we don't have the fun of them hyping up Penis Williams and how SHOCKED they are when she's "upset" in the 1st week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2007 Quite Frankly got cancelled. No more Iverson updates... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted January 12, 2007 Screamin' should move to Denver. Then, ESPN could have another PTI-ripoff show with Screamin' and Woody Paige. Fun galore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites