SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 http://www.variety.com/article/VR111794181...10&cs=1&s=h&p=0 J.J. Abrams is becoming the next Gene Roddenberry. Paramount is breathing life into its "Star Trek" franchise by setting "Mission: Impossible III" helmer J.J. Abrams to produce and direct the 11th "Trek" feature, aiming for a 2008 release. Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, Abrams' producing team from "Lost," also will produce the yet-to-be-titled feature. Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto OrciRoberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission. Deal reflects Par's bullishness on "MI3," which launches worldwide next weekend, and underlines the goal of Paramount chief Brad Grey and prexy Gail BermanGail Berman to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Par brand with top-tier talent such as Abrams. "MI3" is the first pic to be released that's been greenlit by Grey. "Star Trek" has been Hollywood's most durable performer other than James Bond, spawning 10 features that have grossed more than $1 billion and 726 TV episodes from six series. Decision to relaunch "Star Trek" comes less than a year after UPN pulled the plug on "Star Trek: Enterprise" amid dismal ratings following a four-season run and four years after "Star Trek: Nemesis" turned in the worst performance of the 10 films with $43 million domestic. Original series created by Roddenberry launched in 1966 on NBC and ended in 1969. During the following decade, the original 78 episodes of "Trek" became staples in syndication and helped mobilize the fan base along with conventions, books and merchandise. Paramount released "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in 1979 and saw domestic grosses hit $82 million. The next three films grossed a combined $263 million domestically, so Paramount started the second TV series, "The Next Generation," in 1987, with Rick Berman and Roddenberry co-exec producing. Under Sherry Lansing's tenure, Rick Berman had been teamed several years ago with Jordan Kerner and Kerry McCluggage to develop an 11th feature set in the early days of Starfleet Academy. Even as a fan, my feelings about this are mixed. As cool as it'd be to see a new Trek movie (there's universal agreement that's been at least a decade since there was a good one), prequels have proven time again to not be the best way to go creatively. However, as bad an idea as this is, its probably the only way Star Trek will ever be resurrected. Whether or not that's a even a good goal is debatable. In the last decade, Star Trek has gotten incredibly unpopular due to over-saturation and the perceived over-zealousness of its fans. Nobody's really clamoring for new Trek adventures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 So Spock and Kirk crash on a mysterious island and the movie intercuts flashbacks with the present day? "Spock... What do these numbers... mean? FOUR?.... EIGHT? .... FIFTEEN??" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 Wait until they become roommates. I'mm just waiting for it turning into Animal house in space "They're the original odd couple! What whacky adventures will they get up to next". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 "James, you forgot to flush the toilet." "Jesus, Spock, don't you see the sock on the door knob. I'm gettin my Kirk on here." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 I'm hesitant about a prequel. It may work as a series but it HAS to be set during TOS or TNG/DS9 timeframes for fans to be familiar with it or AFTER TNG/DS9 but not so far that there is massive changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 We better get a Starfleet Dorm Scene where Spok uses his vulcan mind-melding skills to bring obscene amounts of pleasure to some red-shirt slut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2006 Maybe the best way to bring the series back from the dead is to stop making new movies that are really bad. Star Trek needs about a 5 or 10 year break away from the public and from it's own fans. Not a prequel movie that will end up doing more harm than any possible good it could do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I never got the hate Nemesis got. I thought it was a decent movie with the best effects out of all of the movies. Sure, the Data subplot was kind of stupid (B4- really, enough already), but I never got why it waranted so much hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I mentioned this over at DVDVR, but Nemesis seemed like a good 2 parter for the TV show and that's about it. It was kinda weak on the plot-side (ditto Insurrection) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I actually quite liked Insurrection, it was my favorite of the Next Gen movies. Nemesis had stuff that completely screwed with the established facts of Star Trek. Enterprise did it too, which is why I abandoned it pretty quickly. Romulans look like Vulcans, and there was never anything I recall about one planet absusing the other. I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan, and admittedly I haven't seen a ton of the original series, but I'ver seen all the movies and a fair chunk of Next Gen and DS9 and some of Voyager, I disliked 7 of 9 and sometimes just plain dumb stuff happened. If they can get Patrick Stewart, maybe they could do something with him on the Stargazer, I'd like to see one more Next Gen movie, it was by far my favorite crew, but I don't know how everyone's looking, and Stewart isn't getting any younger, so I'd live with him getting most of a movie, he's got a lot of stuff that hasn't been probed yet, I think. Ad I'm beginning to ramble, so I'll end it here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Must we forget that First Contact was actually pretty good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Must we forget that First Contact was actually pretty good? I wasn't a fan, myself. Also, the thing with the needle piercing his eye in the dream and the Borg queen's spine being like a tail grossed me out when I saw it. Insurrection was the only Next Gen movie I liked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I'm mixed about it myself. While I love Trek movies, they really misstepped with Nemesis. I was thinking that a DS9 movie would have been a better bet, but I have to agree about Trek needing a serious break. Not to mention that Paramount is trying to carve more meat off that dying carcass every chance they get. The DVD box sets are still over $100 apiece, and now they;re coming out with compilations of classic, TNG, DS9, and Voyager episodes based on a theme. They know that they have their fans by the short and curlies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I'm mixed about it myself. While I love Trek movies, they really misstepped with Nemesis. I was thinking that a DS9 movie would have been a better bet, but I have to agree about Trek needing a serious break. Not to mention that Paramount is trying to carve more meat off that dying carcass every chance they get. The DVD box sets are still over $100 apiece, and now they;re coming out with compilations of classic, TNG, DS9, and Voyager episodes based on a theme. They know that they have their fans by the short and curlies. I'm actually glad about the compilations. I decided a while ago that, while I was a trek fan, I wasn't going to pay upwards of $160 for 20-something episodes of a TV show. With the compilations (like they used to do with the VHS tapes) I can get my favorite episodes for a hell of a lot less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 The Trek sets are now down to like $50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Must we forget that First Contact was actually pretty good? I wasn't a fan, myself. Also, the thing with the needle piercing his eye in the dream and the Borg queen's spine being like a tail grossed me out when I saw it. Insurrection was the only Next Gen movie I liked I think that was the last Star Trek movie I saw. How could that not be everyones favourite: It was basically zombies in space! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Reasons I hated Nemesis: -The villian was a clone of Capt. Picard that look, sounded, and acted nothing like him. -The Remans, who've been oppressed for hundreds of years by the Romulans, get their revenge by attacking the Federation. Huh? -Suddenly the Federation and the Romulans are buddies at the end of the movie, despite the fact that the Romulans brought that shit on themselves by oppressing the Remans for hundreds of years. -Everything about B4= oh so very ghey. -The dune-buggy chase. Not only are we now using 20th century automobiles, but we're shooting at primitive species who get in our way. -Data flying a shuttlepod through the hallways of a Romulan spaceship. -Thank you for reminding us we'd rather be watching a different movie by ripping off the ending to Wrath of Khan. I thought First Contact was good, even if it did steal heavily from the even better movie Aliens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 First Contact was the last movie that was any good (even that did some have lameness and formulaic elements to it, but it had charm which carried it through). Nemesis was a boring piece of formula crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I went and saw Nemisis in the theaters and the first thing I said once I walked out was "KHAAAAN!!!!" Nemisis was horrible it was the Final Frontier of TNG. However, I'm waiting for the Free Enterprise sequel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 If they do attempt the Star Trek prequel movie... Will they be wearing the "Enterprise" style jumpsuits or Original Series style outfits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 If they do attempt the Star Trek prequel movie... Will they be wearing the "Enterprise" style jumpsuits or Original Series style outfits? I'd imagine it'd be close to what was worn in the episode "The Cage". Speaking of which...Its a shame Paramount never decided to use that series again. As much as I enjoyed Enterprise's final season (and especially the characters of T'Pol and Trip Tucker), I think a Capt. Pike show would've been preferable to Enterprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I think if anything, they should have done a prequel/sequel inbetween TOS and TNG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I think if anything, they should have done a prequel/sequel inbetween TOS and TNG. That could have been good. Either a voyage of the Enterprise B or the Enterprise C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2006 The Enterprise C would have been interesting as in the Series Finale for that they could tie it into the TNG episode when they go through the time warp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2006 http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/703/703157p1.html I couldn't get the article to copy, but it basically takes issue with some of the things reorted about the plot of the next movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Lame. They should have made a DS9 movie instead. I always liked it better than TNG myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Lame. They should have made a DS9 movie instead. I always liked it better than TNG myself. First they'd need to explain how Sisko gets released by the prophets, and what makes Odo to decide to come back if they decide to use the whole cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2006 Must we forget that First Contact was actually pretty good? I have a friend who hated that film because he felt it was "too much like an action movie" and was "too unrealistic" in terms of its science. I'm still not sure exactly how a film about alien cyborgs taking over the earth breaches the apparently razor thin line 'realistic' sci-fi and becomes unrealistic nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigeraid 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2006 I'm really, really worried about this movie, should it come to pass. I'm a bit of a purist as far as Star Trek though. I've read and am reading every novel, and follow the "complete" canon as it were. Kirk, Spock, and/or McCoy never met at Starfleet Academy. Kirk met Spock when he first came on board the Enterprise (Vonda M McIntyre's novel Enterprise) and while he knew McCoy previously, it was not from the Academy. I just hate that they might throw out 25-some years worth of canon for a new movie. They did it in Nemesis, ignoring their OWN canon from the TV show. Picard HAD hair in the academy, and up through the time he commanded the Stargazer, and ended up in his bald state towards the end of the Stargazer run. They showed him with hair in a couple of occasions during flashbacks in TNG. Just plain sloppy. Personally, I'd like to see one of two movies: 1 - A movie based around the new Titan movies, with Riker in command of the U.S.S. Titan. It'd be a chance to show off some GREAT special effects, since have of his crew are wacky-ass aliens made of jelly, one that has to live in water, one that looks like an elephant or some shit... 2 - Something to do with "The Lost Era" of novels, with the Enterprise C, or possibly Sulu on the Excelsior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) 2 - Something to do with "The Lost Era" of novels, with the Enterprise C, or possibly Sulu on the Excelsior. The Excelsior would be awesome, but I'm not sure if they'd be too afraid of backlash since Takei came out. I know Star Trek is generally a liberal show, but we know that anti gay forces can be rallied at a moment's notice Edited April 28, 2006 by Masked Man of Mystery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites