Your Paragon of Virtue Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 Actually I was saying that I haven't seen a good article there yet, so I assumed he was a part of the pond. Do you have link, to show?
Lei Tong Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 Check for his recent SHOOTO preview by Jordan Breen.
Guest Brian Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Cro Cop is unofficially out, as there is a rather large contract dispute that PRIDE couldn't settle financially. What it seems to boil down to is PRIDE wants to pay its competitors for one night, whereas Cro Cop wants to be paid for two fights. Why pull out now? Leverage. Cro Cop supposedly has a strong offer from WFA, which has to be in excess of 150,000 (yen) he's been receiving per fight.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 It's gotta be more than 150 000 in yen, isn't that like, well, not a lot?
Guest Brian Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 There was supposed to be a '?' there after the yen because I wasn't sure from reading everything.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Well, it's official: http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/sport...604977/index.do I don't know Croatian so I can't post a translation, but it's on Sherdog a bunch. Oh well, apparently they only wanted to pay him for one fight? If he lost the final he would get nothing? I don't know how it works but if that is the case I can't say I blame him.
Lord of The Curry Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Is Cro-Cops case unique compared to Nog, Wandy and Barnett or is he just choosing to be a bitch on this one?
AboveAverage484 Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Is Cro-Cops case unique compared to Nog, Wandy and Barnett or is he just choosing to be a bitch on this one? He's just being a bitch; probably doesn't want to get bitched down by Fedor again.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 That really sucks because I really was looking forward to Cro Cop Vs. Silva 2. Anyone have any idea who will replace Cro Cop?
Lord of The Curry Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Roman Zentsov would be the case, as he beat Gilbert Yvel in the opening round alternate match.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 I'd laugh pretty fucking hard if Roman won. I mean he knocked out two guys who people said Wanderlei would be deathly afraid of on the feet (years ago that is) so I guess anything is possible.
Lord of The Curry Posted August 6, 2006 Report Posted August 6, 2006 Bottom line being that somebody isn't making it out of the first 5 minutes of that fight concious. I imagine Wandy will be looking for the kill early with the forsight that Nog/Barnett can easily go the distance.
Hawkius Maximus Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 That or DSE paid out their ass. The reaction to Cro Cop maybe, possibly not fighting online was odd...It was a strongly anti-Cro Cop which was surprising, with people all over the world accusing him of stabbing PRIDE in the back, and turning his back on the fans. I doubt it was what they were expecting.
Lei Tong Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 MMA fans are all about seeing fighters getting paid, until it adversly affects a match-up they want to see. lawl
AboveAverage484 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 MMA fans are all about seeing fighters getting paid, until it adversly affects a match-up they want to see. lawl Or until it happens a month before the show, when shit like this should have been worked out by the managers before the tourney even started. Or when Cro Cop says it's not about the money, only the belt, then when he gets fucked in the ass by Fedor and realizes he'll never sniff it, then it's about the money.
Lei Tong Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 See, I don't give a shit about this tournament. So this is all fucking hilarious to me. Besides, as MMA gets bigger, does anyone honestly expect not to see more of this? It happens in pretty much every sport once the athletes start gaining leverage, and assuming MMA can near some measure of overall success, expect to see fighters giving promoters and/or fans the finger for any number of reasons. BIGGER THAN BOXING!!!111
Hawkius Maximus Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 The timing was what got me. - In the past, Cro Cop has been 100% behind PRIDE, basicly saying he'd fight for them no matter what. - They go through the Yakuza scandal, and are completely in desperate straits. They need some huge months to get back to shape completely, and that means alot of the fighters are getting paycuts/being let go. - WFA capitalizes and sends Cro Cop an offer to fight for them for reportedly as much if not more then PRIDE gives him. - NOW Cro Cop wants more money when everyone else is getting the same amount, or he flat out wont fight for PRIDE. I dunno, I like some loyalty myself. I think Benoitrulz is right. Cro Cop has realized that in PRIDE, he'll never win the title, so isn't willing to risk as much. The other three accepted the same exact conditions to my knowlege. It just makes Cro Cop look greedy and petty. Then again, I am a PRIDE fanboy, so I'm biased.
AboveAverage484 Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 See, I don't give a shit about this tournament. That's nice, let the people who do talk about it.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Lei Tong should be banned for spamming.
Hawkius Maximus Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Hope that was a joke, this folder needs Lei. We're like...the only subfolder part of this forum that has any real activity of meaning. We gotta keep it going damnit.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Hope that was a joke, this folder needs Lei. We're like...the only subfolder part of this forum that has any real activity of meaning. We gotta keep it going damnit. Of course it was a joke. Lei Tong is my brown brother, even if he hates on Canadians.
Guest DRH 502 Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but since Fedor Emelianenko is out of the tournament, will the GP Champion get a shot at Fedor's strap??
Lord of The Curry Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 I don't know if anything official has been announced but it's pretty much been a known thing that when Fedor pulled out that the winner of the GP would be his sacrificial lamb on NYE.
Adam Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Just saw Critical Countdown Absolute, my very first PRIDE show ever. To say I was excited would be accurate, because I really wanted to see Wandy, Cro Cop, Barnett, Hunt and Nog. My thoughts... - I want to kill the ring announcer at the beginning. He/she sounds like someone is choking her throughout the introduction of all the fighters. Expect an example if we ever do another radio show. - heh, Frank Trigg on commentary. His entire commentary schtick includes acting as if someone just died after every knockdown. - Vitor with the KO in 2 seconds. I'd like to see him back in the LHW mix again in the UFC. There's still money to be made. - Nog was the least impressive in victory out of all the final four, but he was probably in the toughest fight. As I say, I don't know much about any of these guys, but from what I saw, these two were quite evenly matched. - That Wanderlei Silva video was fucking awesome. The fight was great too. Fujita is a tough mofo. - I'd only heard about Hunt and Barnett before, and I wasn't sure what to expect. Impressive victory to Barnett, he was money on the ground. - And then, there's Cro Cop. I saw the sig, and I wanted to see the fight for myself. That guy made me want to learn how to do leg kicks. Damn. I've never seen a guy win a fight purely on leg kicks before. In summation, I'll definitely be downloading more PRIDE very shortly.
Lord of The Curry Posted August 28, 2006 Report Posted August 28, 2006 *BUMP* The card is pretty much full and goddamn if it might be the Card of The Year. Openweight Semi-Final #1- Mirko Cro-Cop vs Wanderlei Silva Openweight Semi-Final #2- Josh Barnett vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Openweight Final Openweight Reserve Bout- Aleksander Emelianenko vs Sergei Kharitonov Mauricio Rua vs Cyril Diabate Allistair Overeem vs Ricardo Arona Kazuhiro Nakamura vs Yoshihiro Nakao Evangelista Cyborg vs Yosuke Nishijima
Guest DRH 502 Posted August 28, 2006 Report Posted August 28, 2006 Damn. I'm very interested in Arona/Overreem and Silva/Cro Cop...I hope Aleksander gets beat up. He is a disgrace to his brother.
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