Anyone See the X3 7 Minute Preview...

[NoCalMike 0]

If you read the reviews at AICN, they are hating on it a lot basically because they think the Dark Phoenix saga defers too much from the comic book version, and that it is too big of a storyline to be sidetracked with the cure storyline at the same time. They said that the Dark Phoenix saga should have been saved for if they planned on making a second trilogy. While I kind of agree with that sentiment, I also have a hard time seeing the Dark Phoenix Saga(Comic Book Version) actually working on the big screen. I am no X-MEN expert or historian or whatever, but I have read up a little on the Dark Phoenix saga, and I think if they tried to make it like the comic book did, it would get laughed right out of the theater by 90% of the audience, while the 10% who are comic book geeks would still find to many differences to be happy.

 

Seriously, just like Wolverines yellow costume, not everything in the comic books works on the silver screen. Plus parts one and two derided from the comic book PLENTY and these same guys hating on Part 3, didn't seem to care much for the first 2 installments.

[ZGangsta 0]

If you read the reviews at AICN, they are hating on it a lot basically because they think the Dark Phoenix saga defers too much from the comic book version, and that it is too big of a storyline to be sidetracked with the cure storyline at the same time. They said that the Dark Phoenix saga should have been saved for if they planned on making a second trilogy. While I kind of agree with that sentiment, I also have a hard time seeing the Dark Phoenix Saga(Comic Book Version) actually working on the big screen. I am no X-MEN expert or historian or whatever, but I have read up a little on the Dark Phoenix saga, and I think if they tried to make it like the comic book did, it would get laughed right out of the theater by 90% of the audience, while the 10% who are comic book geeks would still find to many differences to be happy.

 

Seriously, just like Wolverines yellow costume, not everything in the comic books works on the silver screen. Plus parts one and two derided from the comic book PLENTY and these same guys hating on Part 3, didn't seem to care much for the first 2 installments.

Exactly.

It's the same point I made in the Superman Returns thread about Darksied. You can't get too sci-fi with these movies. How is a movie about alien mystical forces, imperial trials, and space battles going to fit in with the themes of the first 2 movies about human persecution and loneliness. It would be laughable to include the Shi'ar at all. And besides, all these superhero movies are adaptations of general concepts and themes from comic books. They don't need to follow the plots at all if it's not going to work. In fact, if they stuck exactly to the comic books it would be incredibly boring because you'd know what was going to happen all the time. Unless it's an artistic experiment like Sin City.

After reading the negative reviews at AICN it all seems so pretentious. Like they're acting as if they're smarter than everyone else because they know how the plot should go. Although, I actually don't buy any of those reviewers from AICN as actually having followed any of these comics. It seems like they just claim to be 'huge fans of the source material' at the beginning of every review to up their credibility. If you go to any actual comic book review/insider web sites, the people who actually know all the material never seem to have a problem with changes being made.

 

I've been hating on X3 for quite some time, but now I find myself really psyched to see it.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

I'm psyched as hell to see it, man.

 

There's a thread in this folder now, and it's a bad review as well.

 

Fuck it, I'm sure I'll still be markin' the fuck out for Beast, Juggernaut, and a bunch of other things I've heard about it.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I've been worried for awhile, since let's face it, Ratner is a huge downgrade from Singer. But as far as it not being accurate to the comics, I'm couldn't be happier. All of those ridiculous space battles, aliens and so forth completely ruined the original point of both the comics and the 90s series. X-Men was always and will always be about the conflict between races, and I'm glad to see that be the main focus of the films.

 

We'll be hearing about it again if they ever do Venom's story in a Spider-Man movie, because his origin in the comics would never work on screen either.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Yeah, but Venom's origin sucks in the comics, anyway.

 

Bendis did a much better job with it over in Ultimate Spidey, if he ever leaves that title Ultimate Venom will probably become as fucked up, stupid and convulted as the regular one.

 

But I don't give a fuck if the sybiote is Peter Parker's radioactive shit that he rejects.

 

I just think Venom would look cool as fuck on the screen, and there's a chance to tell Venom's story in one single story, and do it right. That's something the comics can never do. Well, for damn near any character, really.

[BorneAgain 0]

Spider-Man cartoon did it easily. Jameson's son brings the symbiote from space. Spider-Man has to rescue him, gets exposed to it, and thus the beginning of the Venom saga.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Yeah, the 90's cartoons were good about the way they translated the comic stories they were inspired by, most of the time.

 

Sidenote: I always thought it was cool when the original creator's of the comics would get credited as writers, or something similar in the 90's Marvel cartoons.

[NoCalMike 0]

After reading the negative reviews at AICN it all seems so pretentious. Like they're acting as if they're smarter than everyone else because they know how the plot should go. Although, I actually don't buy any of those reviewers from AICN as actually having followed any of these comics. It seems like they just claim to be 'huge fans of the source material' at the beginning of every review to up their credibility. If you go to any actual comic book review/insider web sites, the people who actually know all the material never seem to have a problem with changes being made.

 

I've been hating on X3 for quite some time, but now I find myself really psyched to see it.

 

Yup. I also don't quite buy into the fact that just because you read the comic books, that you have a vested PASSION into making sure the movie follows the comic book. I was never a HUGE comic book geek, but I did read some as a kid, and enjoyed them, but it never once translated into me now as an adult giving a shit about the movie following plot lines to the "t" because anyone with half a brain knows there is so much liberty given to comic book writers to make extroidinary plots that they would NEVER WORK in a movie.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Exactly.

 

Comic Books are the one medium that you can do anything your imagination can dream up.

 

 

It's just when they make non-sensical changes just because they can, or if they totally miss the point of the original stories that they're adapting, then it's gay.

 

But I'm pretty much happy just to see characters I've read about and watched cartoons of, and played with action figures of, and all that shit, up on the big screen.

 

It gives me that feeling I get Hogan comes out to 'Real American', or I see new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Masters of the Universe and G.I. Joe stuff. Or when Frank Miller draws a comic, or when Ian McKellen started being in a bunch of badass roles...

 

It's a high better then just nostalgia.

 

It's fucking great, man.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

It's just when they make non-sensical changes just because they can, or if they totally miss the point of the original stories that they're adapting, then it's gay.

 

This I agree on. Like the old Superman script where Krypton doesn't explode. That not happening changes the entire meaning of the story.

 

But since the big issue in X3, at least as far as I can tell from the previews, is over whether mutants should be forced to be 'cured' or not and the continuing race war between humans and mutants, the creators seem to understand what X-Men is about.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Oh, no doubt. The X-Men and Spider-Man flicks have done a great job with getting the characters and the point of their stories right.

[Black Lushus 0]

I've said it in almost every comic book movie thread we've had here...if I wanted an exact copy of the comic, I would read the comic...I'm fine with all the story/background tweaking done in the movies.

 

However, I still don't dig webs coming directly out of Peter Parker's wrists, but whatever, I can live with that. There's been more than one occassion where Petey kicks himself for not having an extra web cartridge, plus the fact that he made the webshooters builds upon the geeky, scientific aspect of his character.

[Aero 0]

I didn't want to take any chances by going into the spoiler thread, but what's the general concenus on X3? Good or bad? I'm not going to be able to see it until Monday, at least.

[gWIL 0]

Very few on the board liked it. I think it's the best of the 3, but could have used another half hour.