Banter 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 They have a court date on Thursday so we don't know if he's gonna get probation. Hence why Edge is the WWE Champion. It's not like that's the date where anything would actually be resolved. That's the date that sets up the date that sets up the date where they might decide when they're going to plead. Shit, I got a DUI on December 1, and the first hearing that actually deals with the case is still three weeks away. Word, I got a DWI in October of last year and went to court 4 or 5 times before it was all done, thus my probation didn't start til the April of this year. Nearly 6 months after my ticket. Judging by your avatar you didn't quite learn your lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 That picture is from about May of 05 before the DWI and I've had that avatar and custom rank since about May of 05. I didn't change it for sake of recognizability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 They need to keep RVD around and give him a midget who wears tie-dye shirts who'll sneak out from under the ring and hit RVD's opponents with a bong. Also having less than 100 grams of the weed in Ohio isn't even a misdemeanor, and is comparable to like a speeding ticket. Getting busted with the drug paraphernalia is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by up to 30 days in prison and/or a fine of $750. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaderock Report post Posted July 4, 2006 No wonder McMahon was so against "ECW Original" as Joey Styles would put it. Forget about his bad promos and oftentimes sloppy/potato work, but the drug thing was another factor in NOT pushing RVD in the past. To me, if someone gives you a shot...you run with it, not smoke it up! Too bad, what could have been...oh well I heard Vince has decided to Call ECW on Sci Fi "RAW Lite" from now on...ECW never had a chance in hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 No wonder McMahon was so against "ECW Original" as Joey Styles would put it. Forget about his bad promos and oftentimes sloppy/potato work, but the drug thing was another factor in NOT pushing RVD in the past. Riiiiiight, because the rest of the lockerroom has Neeeeeeeeeeever had drug problems while holding titles before. What RVD did was just, just unprecidented....uh-huh, bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted July 4, 2006 How many of them were caught by the police, and had all the information posted about it for the world to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 How many of them were caught by the police, and had all the information posted about it for the world to see. Yes I know, but that is also why I definately approve of the punishment that RVD and Sabu are going to get, but to up some front like "Seeee this is why Vince didn't want etc etc etc" is such horseshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 Sabu was already looking to go back to TNA anyways. He isn't going to be too down about getting canned. Van Dam, ISN'T getting fired. Do you have a legit source for the Sabu comment, or is that you own diagnosis Dr. House? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 And those wacky kids at the Wrestlingfigs.com Forums who brought you Edge's "Ultimate Heel Work" sig before, proudly bring to you the newest addition: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 I think you mean "wacky losers." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 Coming soon: a stoner buddy comedy that stars RVD and Sabu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Blank 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 *sobs 50ties sit com style* Oh Roooo-o-o-oob *cries* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 At this stage in Sabu's career, I find it hard to believe he would care about the direction a company was going, as long as he was getting paid. I mean, he does all sorts of indy shows on a per show basis. It just seems at this stage he would be happy with a solid paycheck, and the fact that he is one of the top guys of his show. He was apparently getting a solid paycheck in TNA and working less dates. I can see him saying, "screw this" and getting out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 claydude is a loser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 And those wacky kids at the Wrestlingfigs.com Forums who brought you Edge's "Ultimate Heel Work" sig before, proudly bring to you the newest addition: Yeah like that would happen Robocop would just shoot the hell out of them. And as for Fozzy the cop? Well he would rape them with his nightstick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Invictus 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 Let's keep in mind (the pills aside) this bust was for something that at least 1/3 of the adult population in this country does, and truthfully is not as bad for as drinking a 6 pack a night... Does the WWE policy even involve marijuana? Probably, but it shouldn't (Just my "hippy-like" opinion. LOL!) I hate RVD, and don't really have an opinion on Sabu, but don't make it out as these 2 are the anti-christs or anything because they got busted for weed... Now if these PILLS are oxycontin's or things as such and were NOT prescribed to them, then I would scrutinize more. I know many people that got hooked on these things, and started turning to herion and stuff because "it's cheaper and has the same effects". Now they are junkies, or even dead. I am totally against these pain pill drugs and would like to see them totally eliminated from society if possible. And they would deserve just punishment for that, and should be fired. Of course you also have to realize that these guys put their bodies on the line night in and night out (especially Sabu over his career, my god) and may "need" pain pills to get through the day. But ultimately nobody "needs" pain pills unless they have a prescription. Too many people become abusers of them, and it's too easy to become an "abuser" rather than a "user" if you know what a mean. But if it turns out that they are busted for just the weed, and that they have a legitimate reason for the pills, neither should be fired or demoted in my opinion. Just because you made up some arbitrary statistic of how many people smoke pot doesn't suddenly make it acceptable. You can make up statistics to prove anything: Forfty percent of people know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2006 Let's keep in mind (the pills aside) this bust was for something that at least 1/3 of the adult population in this country does, and truthfully is not as bad for as drinking a 6 pack a night... Does the WWE policy even involve marijuana? Probably, but it shouldn't (Just my "hippy-like" opinion. LOL!) I hate RVD, and don't really have an opinion on Sabu, but don't make it out as these 2 are the anti-christs or anything because they got busted for weed... Now if these PILLS are oxycontin's or things as such and were NOT prescribed to them, then I would scrutinize more. I know many people that got hooked on these things, and started turning to herion and stuff because "it's cheaper and has the same effects". Now they are junkies, or even dead. I am totally against these pain pill drugs and would like to see them totally eliminated from society if possible. And they would deserve just punishment for that, and should be fired. Of course you also have to realize that these guys put their bodies on the line night in and night out (especially Sabu over his career, my god) and may "need" pain pills to get through the day. But ultimately nobody "needs" pain pills unless they have a prescription. Too many people become abusers of them, and it's too easy to become an "abuser" rather than a "user" if you know what a mean. But if it turns out that they are busted for just the weed, and that they have a legitimate reason for the pills, neither should be fired or demoted in my opinion. Just because you made up some arbitrary statistic of how many people smoke pot doesn't suddenly make it acceptable. You can make up statistics to prove anything: Forfty percent of people know that. I think his point was the pot was a non-issue. It's the easiest thing to poke fun of but the amount of marijuana in their possession was a minor charge at best. WWE doesn't even test for marijuana. They are worried about the harder drugs and especially the pain pill addictions. And I'm sure there concern in this case isn't necessarily that RVD and Sabu got busted with a little bit of weed. It's whether or not they had legitimate prescriptions for the vicodin and other pills and monitoring the level of their use. The pills themselves are fuel for someone like Phil Mushnick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Well we know where Rob'll be for the next month. RVD Suspended for 30 Days RVD Suspended By Louie Dee July 4, 2006 Moments after screwing Rob Van Dam out of the ECW Championship, Paul Heyman gave the following statement to ECW.com: “As of this moment, Rob Van Dam has been suspended for 30 days.” I approached Heyman immediately as he came backstage following the match to ask him why he screwed Van Dam. Heyman only smiled and offered the above statement. I followed him to ask him why RVD was suspended and why he was screwed out of the ECW Championship…but he only walked faster. When I finally got to his office door, Heyman slammed the door in my face. Unfortunately, what should have been RVD’s holiday weekend homecoming went from bad to worse to downright horrible. On Monday morning, everything seemed cool as RVD walked into the Wachovia Center as both the ECW and WWE Champion; Tuesday night, however, he left the building with no gold and no job for a month. After losing the WWE Championship to Edge in a Triple Threat Match on RAW, RVD also lost his ECW Championship to Big Show live on ECW on Sci Fi Tuesday night. With the referee down, Van Dam seemingly had the match won after a Five-Star Frog Splash. Paul Heyman went to count the pinfall like he did at One Night Stand…but before he got to three, Heyman stopped and stared at RVD. Van Dam looked like he had just lost his best friend, and as he and Heyman did some jaw jacking, Big Show recovered. He spun Rob around and nailed him with a chair, and after a vicious chokeslam on that same chair, ECW had a new champion. And now, with the suspension levied by Heyman, it looks like RVD won’t have a chance to right the wrong he has been handed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 So Van Dam gets suspended for 30 days, while Sabu will get a push to Show likely and will job to him (and start scrapping w/ former manager Heyman too of course)....can't wait. This is their punishment apparently. If this happens, the most I can at least hope for is Fonzie returning w/ Sabu to counteract Heyman, but that's far from entertaining in the big scheme of things. Sabu jobbing to Show leading to a possible Van Dam/Show rematch isn't anything remotely smart either as it just screams boring. I just wish both Sabu and Van Dam would be allowed an "out" right now and be able to leave the company instead of having to now accept the politics behind things. I know WWE needs to make an example out of them to a point, but they should think that they have too much riding on the ECW deal to piss on their positioning in the brand at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benn 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 They got busted with illegal drugs, admittedly not hard drugs and not a great deal of them but they're illegal all the same. The two of them are very lucky not to have been fired on the spot with the drug policy as strict as it is. WWE has to look after its shareholders and totally needs to make an example out of them. Honestly if RVD and Sabu are going to do drugs, they should have been more careful after they'd both just been given new leases on their careers. I think they're both great to watch in comparison with a lot of the current WWE roster, but WWE management needed to act and I'm glad they did regardless of their places in the ECW brand. What's the difference between the way they're being dealt with now and if RVD and Sabu were to leave the company anyway? It'd have the same effect except this way at least RVD looks likely to return to the top in a month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scottb75 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Oh that explains the sudden de-push of RVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 They got busted with illegal drugs, admittedly not hard drugs and not a great deal of them but they're illegal all the same. The two of them are very lucky not to have been fired on the spot with the drug policy as strict as it is. WWE has to look after its shareholders and totally needs to make an example out of them. Honestly if RVD and Sabu are going to do drugs, they should have been more careful after they'd both just been given new leases on their careers. I think they're both great to watch in comparison with a lot of the current WWE roster, but WWE management needed to act and I'm glad they did regardless of their places in the ECW brand. What's the difference between the way they're being dealt with now and if RVD and Sabu were to leave the company anyway? It'd have the same effect except this way at least RVD looks likely to return to the top in a month. If they could be allowed to quit, they could potentially save their own careers with a run-in on an upcoming TNA show, "shooting" on the situation, and turning TNA or at least part of the TNA roster into a "fuck ECW" deal, with Rhino and the Duds obviously joining in. I have a feeling once Van Dam returns, it's certainly not going to be pushing him back on top immediately again. Van Dam, as well as Sabu will likely continue to do jobs throughout the next few months in the least (or until the company finishes up and closes shop by the end of summer) and be "made examples of" in the company, which will lead to them pushing guys like Show, Test, and other horribly vanilla heels on top of a company that will ultimately be digging it's own ditch - still not getting shitty heels liek them over and in the process killing off any last attempt at a sustaining credible push, especially important for Van Dam right now. If they bury him again like they have in WWE before time and time again, there is really not even any value for him to show up on TNA. Think of it like Matt Hardy before coming back to WWE and Matt Hardy now in terms of his value to another company that's trying (keyword: trying) to compete with Vince in TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benn 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 They got busted with illegal drugs, admittedly not hard drugs and not a great deal of them but they're illegal all the same. The two of them are very lucky not to have been fired on the spot with the drug policy as strict as it is. WWE has to look after its shareholders and totally needs to make an example out of them. Honestly if RVD and Sabu are going to do drugs, they should have been more careful after they'd both just been given new leases on their careers. I think they're both great to watch in comparison with a lot of the current WWE roster, but WWE management needed to act and I'm glad they did regardless of their places in the ECW brand. What's the difference between the way they're being dealt with now and if RVD and Sabu were to leave the company anyway? It'd have the same effect except this way at least RVD looks likely to return to the top in a month. If they could be allowed to quit, they could potentially save their own careers with a run-in on an upcoming TNA show, "shooting" on the situation, and turning TNA or at least part of the TNA roster into a "fuck ECW" deal, with Rhino and the Duds obviously joining in. I have a feeling once Van Dam returns, it's certainly not going to be pushing him back on top immediately again. Van Dam, as well as Sabu will likely continue to do jobs throughout the next few months in the least (or until the company finishes up and closes shop by the end of summer) and be "made examples of" in the company, which will lead to them pushing guys like Show, Test, and other horribly vanilla heels on top of a company that will ultimately be digging it's own ditch - still not getting shitty heels liek them over and in the process killing off any last attempt at a sustaining credible push, especially important for Van Dam right now. If they bury him again like they have in WWE before time and time again, there is really not even any value for him to show up on TNA. Think of it like Matt Hardy before coming back to WWE and Matt Hardy now in terms of his value to another company that's trying (keyword: trying) to compete with Vince in TNA. I dunno, I just can't see them not putting RVD back in the title scene when his suspension is up. I mean fuck, they're pushing Orton again and from all accounts he would have been fired if not for the program he was involved in and there wasn't a new brand that needed him back ASAP. Maybe that's just me though. Even if they left WWE they would still have to wait 90 days to appear on TNA wouldn't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted July 5, 2006 WWE doesn't even test for marijuana. They say they will if they believe someone has a problem with it. Remember, Vince is against marijuana use as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Boy oh boy did RVD fuck up or what? It's shit for the business, but I can't feel sorry for him. Sure, his title reign wasn't getting the attention that it deserved, but his chance has (as Lawler put it) gone up in smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 But, have you ever watched an RVD match...ON WEED??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kobe24KGold Report post Posted July 5, 2006 WWE doesn't even test for marijuana. They say they will if they believe someone has a problem with it. Remember, Vince is against marijuana use as well. He certainly isn't against cocaine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Well being stripped of the titles and getting suspended sucks, but it could've been a lot worse for RVD. I just hope Vince forgives him and at least keep him as a main eventer. Van Dam looked like he had just lost his best friend LOL, not the first time it happened. I remember a couple of years when Heyman had the Dudley Boyz beat the shit out of RVD on SD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruiserKC 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 They got busted with illegal drugs, admittedly not hard drugs and not a great deal of them but they're illegal all the same. The two of them are very lucky not to have been fired on the spot with the drug policy as strict as it is. WWE has to look after its shareholders and totally needs to make an example out of them. Honestly if RVD and Sabu are going to do drugs, they should have been more careful after they'd both just been given new leases on their careers. I think they're both great to watch in comparison with a lot of the current WWE roster, but WWE management needed to act and I'm glad they did regardless of their places in the ECW brand. What's the difference between the way they're being dealt with now and if RVD and Sabu were to leave the company anyway? It'd have the same effect except this way at least RVD looks likely to return to the top in a month. If they could be allowed to quit, they could potentially save their own careers with a run-in on an upcoming TNA show, "shooting" on the situation, and turning TNA or at least part of the TNA roster into a "fuck ECW" deal, with Rhino and the Duds obviously joining in. I have a feeling once Van Dam returns, it's certainly not going to be pushing him back on top immediately again. Van Dam, as well as Sabu will likely continue to do jobs throughout the next few months in the least (or until the company finishes up and closes shop by the end of summer) and be "made examples of" in the company, which will lead to them pushing guys like Show, Test, and other horribly vanilla heels on top of a company that will ultimately be digging it's own ditch - still not getting shitty heels liek them over and in the process killing off any last attempt at a sustaining credible push, especially important for Van Dam right now. If they bury him again like they have in WWE before time and time again, there is really not even any value for him to show up on TNA. Think of it like Matt Hardy before coming back to WWE and Matt Hardy now in terms of his value to another company that's trying (keyword: trying) to compete with Vince in TNA. I dunno, I just can't see them not putting RVD back in the title scene when his suspension is up. I mean fuck, they're pushing Orton again and from all accounts he would have been fired if not for the program he was involved in and there wasn't a new brand that needed him back ASAP. Maybe that's just me though. Even if they left WWE they would still have to wait 90 days to appear on TNA wouldn't they? Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Nobody came through with an, "Oh god, the room is spinning."? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites