haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 The reason Sabu isn't being suspended is because the drug paraphernalia found on him had not been used, he simply had it. How do you find a used pill on someone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 I'm going to update the above post as I hear new bits, so check that post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Kurt Angle is taking time off because of personal reasons. As a matter of fact, Kurt has been suspended for 30 days as well, but they are not sure why. The reason he didn't come back now that RVD is off the show for now, is because he's officially suspended because of some sort of personal reason. You'd think they would be able to keep Kurt's suspension quiet like they did Benoit's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Ok, I just finished updating Post Number 239, so check it all out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Thanks for typing all of that Downhome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Well if the PWInsider hotline is accurate, then it looks like once the next 30 days pass, RVD and Sabu will be heavily pushed again, thank gawd! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dips 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Thanks once again Downhome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Or it's because Randall is in his 20's, Rob is his 30's and continuously shows unprofessional behavior. The fact that he was so over in 2002 is probably the only reason he's still employed by WWE. Randall can speak on a live mic. Rob cannot. Randall has the best look in wrestling. Rob does not. Is this a gimmick poster? You can't be serious, Randy's mic skills are laughable just like his wrestling skills and the last time I checked Orton was suspended for harassing women. If the PWInsider is correct then I'll be a happy camper again when Rob comes back from his suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maztinho 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Or it's because Randall is in his 20's, Rob is his 30's and continuously shows unprofessional behavior. The fact that he was so over in 2002 is probably the only reason he's still employed by WWE. Randall can speak on a live mic. Rob cannot. Randall has the best look in wrestling. Rob does not. Is this a gimmick poster? You can't be serious, Randy's mic skills are laughable just like his wrestling skills and the last time I checked Orton was suspended for harassing women. If the PWInsider is correct then I'll be a happy camper again when Rob comes back from his suspension. No gimmick... Leena just loves her some Randy. And the peraphanalia was likely a bong. Come on. I'm a homegrown Utah boy, and I could read between the lines on that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 So, will RVD or Sabu do any jail time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 But, have you ever watched an RVD match...ON WEED??? Yeah, and it's pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Or it's because Randall is in his 20's, Rob is his 30's and continuously shows unprofessional behavior. The fact that he was so over in 2002 is probably the only reason he's still employed by WWE. Randall can speak on a live mic. Rob cannot. Randall has the best look in wrestling. Rob does not. Sweet holy Christ you're a twit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 lol, professionalism from Orton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 lol, professionalism from Orton The whole "Randall" thing is just completely fucking annoying, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 Poor Kennedy. He's stuck without a program. They should have him start a feud with a midcarder and then move him on to challenge Lashley for the US title while Regal and Finlay challenge London and Kendrick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2006 I think Orton is pretty decent on the mic, better then RVD giving live promos in front of crowds, but I also think RVD's promo ability is underrated, he gives some hilarious promos as a cocky heel, when he is given the freedom to do what he does best. The professionalism snide on RVD is hypocrisy coming from someone who thinks Orton should be pushed. Orton is probably underrated in the ring as far as his ability to be CARRIED to a good match, as in, he isn't a total slug or anything, and when he is put in there with someone who can dictate the match Orton will take instruction just fine and go with the match, but if he isn't in there with someone capable of all that, get ready to watch a snoozer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benn 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Good to hear that I was right about RVD getting pushed after his suspension. Sucks to be Ken Kennedy though. I'm not sure why they can't feud him with Lashley over the US title now that Booker vs Rey and Batista vs Henry are being set up, presumably to be followed by Booker vs Batista. Kennedy has never been pinned in WWE, so why not just have him make fun of Lashley for the way that he lost his winning streak or something simple like that to kick it off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 I think Orton is pretty decent on the mic, better then RVD giving live promos in front of crowds, but I also think RVD's promo ability is underrated, he gives some hilarious promos as a cocky heel, when he is given the freedom to do what he does best. The professionalism snide on RVD is hypocrisy coming from someone who thinks Orton should be pushed. Orton is probably underrated in the ring as far as his ability to be CARRIED to a good match, as in, he isn't a total slug or anything, and when he is put in there with someone who can dictate the match Orton will take instruction just fine and go with the match, but if he isn't in there with someone capable of all that, get ready to watch a snoozer. Rvd's 3 talking spots were VERY good last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 A few quick bits: -Quite a few other wrestlers were pulled over for speeding in the same area that RVD/Sabu were stopped. -RVD will be gone for 30 days, but he's in line for a huge push on his return next month. -It's been said that RVD and Sabu are taking their punishments like men, and not complaining at all since they know it's their fault. -Sabu's push will continue. -So, obviously, neither men will be fired over this issue, and after this month, they'll be moving forward as if it never happened. -The reason Sabu isn't being suspended is because the drug paraphernalia found on him had not been used, he simply had it. -Vince McMahon loves Sabu so much right now that Sabu doesn't have anything to worried about in terms of getting fired or being de-pushed. Vince loves the oldschool type of wildman character, as well as his in ring work. -RVD had a bad knee months ago, and he's been needing time off anyway, so this is almost a good thing for him. -RVD was originally going to transform the WWE title into the ECW title, so that's why he got both titles. He was going to drop the WWE title at Vengeance, but then they had the idea to do it on the SNME show. In the end, he only lost the belt just under two weeks early. -There was never any plans to have RVD drop the ECW title. -Kurt Angle is taking time off because of personal reasons. As a matter of fact, Kurt has been suspended for 30 days as well, but they are not sure why. The reason he didn't come back now that RVD is off the show for now, is because he's officially suspended because of some sort of personal reason. -The creative meetings recently, because of everything that's happened, have been totally brutal. They went well into the night on Sunday night, and then all day on Monday. -The Al Snow/Test match was originally going to be a competitive back and forth bout, but it went short because they wanted more time for the main event. -The network was behind them saying that Tony DeVito wasn't actually a priest there at the end of his little rant. They didn't want it to be viewed that they were really beating a priest. -The "ECW Rules" thing was totally Vince's idea, and his alone. -Internally, they decided to put the strap on TBS, and many thought it was the end of the RAW crossover. But no, the "ECW Only" show was just a one time thing for now. The RAW crossover stuff is not done with at all. -Kelly Kelly - We see her every week because Vince McMahon loves her and thinks she does a great job. -Kelly has been very vocal about not wanting to go back to OVW, because she's annoyed with the fans asking her about what it's like to be on the main roster now. She also hates all of the attention that she gets down there now. -A lot of people internally are wondering what happened to the Ken Kennedy push. They say that it's possible that "that ship has sailed" in terms of his push. Backstage recently, Kennedy was blaming Super Crazy for the recent match at the SD taping being sub-par (a lot of editing has been done to put it on TV for this Friday's SD show), saying that it was Super Crazy's work that caused the match to be a let down. -Gunner Scott is not popular at OVW anymore at all. When he left in the first place, he had an attitude where he acted like he was above OVW after being brought up to the main roster, and now that he's back down there with that group, he's not really being accepted because of how he acted towards people back when he left to go up to the SD roster. [/quote/] Where is all this info from? Is it credible? Where would one look for these rumours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 It's from the PWInsider report. You'd know that if you read the post right above it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Mike, I honestly think at this point that Orton cannot even be carried. Take a look at his work since he came back from injury last summer. He's gotten very sloppy and uses all sorts of restholds, even compared to before. As far as RVD's mic work, he's just not good at doing heavily scripted promos that make him seem intense. He's hilarious as a cocky tweener or heel that seems vaguely wasted, mainly because this plays to his strengths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Good to hear that I was right about RVD getting pushed after his suspension. Sucks to be Ken Kennedy though. I'm not sure why they can't feud him with Lashley over the US title now that Booker vs Rey and Batista vs Henry are being set up, presumably to be followed by Booker vs Batista. Kennedy has never been pinned in WWE, so why not just have him make fun of Lashley for the way that he lost his winning streak or something simple like that to kick it off? I figure this will happen when WWE has ran out of people for Lashley to feud with. Plus right now, I don't even know if WWE is pushing Kennedy as a heel or not. He's done nothing that would make him a heel and he's really done nothing to put him over as a face. I do feel sorry for the guy though, he was great and going somewhere before he got injured and now all of a sudden its like WWE competely forgot about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Keller on his audio reported: -Sabu offered to take all the blame, he was willing to say the pot was his in order to save RVD, even if it meant getting fired, Rob said no -Sandman was also pulled over in the same spot, but was clean -It isn't surprising Rob was driving, as Sabu doesn't have a license -Sabu felt horrible over the whole thing, Vince came up to him and said he admired how he handled the situation, and that he shouldn't worry -Heyman produced the Sabu promo from Tues. -Test came off as arrogant backstage, thinking he was better than everyone due to his size and build -Sabu assured Vince his pills were legal, he had a prescription for him. They were not painkillers but pills for his other health situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Kurt Angle was not suspended. He was told/forced to take a thirty day break to recover. Kurt is in great pain due to his nearly psychotic dedication to wrestling. Vince and Co. are concerned that if he keels over, that'd be bad pub for wrestling, so they are making him take a break to heal up and fix himself up and repair his marriage with his wife. He's not being punished for anything. He's just being forced to take a vacation, because he's an obsessive workaholic - which is usually considered good in wrestling, but Kurt takes it to such an extreme (n. championship wrestling), that he is being told to calm down. Chris Benoit is off because of a combo of his wife needing help around the house, and the fact that he's burned out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Wrestling-News.com has learned from reliable sources, that Kurt Angle is currently on suspension from World Wrestling Entertainment. We received two different interpretations of what led to the suspension. One item that is consistent is that Kurt Angle has been taking very high dosages of painkillers. One source told me that it became so much a problem, he would go thru several refills in less than a month. Since painkillers like Vicodin are controlled substances, a physician can only prescribe a certain dosage at a time (IE: 100 tablets with 3 refills). An example of a normal prescription would be 1 tablet every 4-6 hours, which would equal about a three week duration per refill. And you can just walk into a pharmacy and refill a prescription because you took all your pills in a week. Another problem which has worsened over time, is Angle's serious mood swings. This is a very common issue with people taking Vicodin and other prescriptions. The suspension we've heard was designed to force Angle to rest and heal up a bit. Of course he will have to lower his intake of pain medication. Interesting enough with Vicodin, you can intensify the painkilling effect not by taking more Vicodin, but adding a simple Tylenol. The Acetaminophen in a Tylenol intensifies the painkilling ability in the Codeine. Unfortunately though when you become addicted to painkillers, you take the higher levels of Codeine to satisfy your body. So even if Angle was taking the medication for pain, the addiction leads someone to take higher levels of codeine ingested hence a problem. Kurt Angle was taking the medication for the right reasons however it led what has transpired. Hopefully he can heal up and successfully address this problem. For the sake of his health. As much as we criticized WWE (in our opinion) on how they have handled certain aspects of the Drug Wellness Program, we praise them for this decision. Especially with the ECW product as bad as it is and with Rob Van Dam suspended, one would realize how much Angle could help right now. WWE's decision shows an example how they are more concerned for the well being of Kurt Angle, than the need for him on upcoming ECW house shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Or it's because Randall is in his 20's, Rob is his 30's and continuously shows unprofessional behavior. The fact that he was so over in 2002 is probably the only reason he's still employed by WWE. Randall can speak on a live mic. Rob cannot. Randall has the best look in wrestling. Rob does not. Sweet holy Christ you're a twit. Can't we ban idiots here for "useful" posts like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted July 6, 2006 Randy Orton is WWE home-grown...RVD is not. There is the difference. Orton's reputation was built up by Vince, Van Dam had his rep built well before he joined Vince's dysfunctional family that is the WWE. That's why Orton is about to do a program with Hulk Hogan and Van Dam is about to get jobbed out to the Vampire. Or it's because Randall is in his 20's, Rob is his 30's and continuously shows unprofessional behavior. The fact that he was so over in 2002 is probably the only reason he's still employed by WWE. Randall can speak on a live mic. Rob cannot. Randall has the best look in wrestling. Rob does not. Is this a gimmick poster? You can't be serious, Randy's mic skills are laughable just like his wrestling skills and the last time I checked Orton was suspended for harassing women. If the PWInsider is correct then I'll be a happy camper again when Rob comes back from his suspension. Most here would agree Randall is better on the mic, and RVD is horrible on it. We don't know why Orton was suspended. But, the smarks can assume it's a combination of drug use, shitting in girls' bags, etc... IT'S ALL TRUE. Randall is still quite young, and had everything handed to him. Hopefully, this suspension finally matures him as the best years of his career are ahead of him. Whereas Rob is a lost cause at this point. He finally got the ball, and he fumbled it with flying colors. He moped for years about not getting his chance, and when he does, he fucks it up. How could anyone trust him again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted July 6, 2006 The professionalism snide on RVD is hypocrisy coming from someone who thinks Orton should be pushed. He shouldn't be. At least until 2007, and that's assuming Randall behaves now. But, eventually, WWE is gonna have to pull the trigger with him. As much as the kids here bitch about Randall always getting pushed... he rarely goes over in the important matches when it matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites