The OAO Smackdown Thread for whatever today is.

[Black Lushus]

what was that crappy TNA-like move Rey did on Kennedy? I mean, for Rey, it's different, but I really hate those ridiculous "Canadian Destroyer" type moves.

[bob_barron]

MVP is Antonio Banks? That guy cut one of the most awful promos I've seen at ROH's Third Anniversary Show.

[Jericholic82]

I might as well read this thread for results . since sd was prempted in NY tilll tonight (sat), but I have to work till 10:30 tonight and I dont have a vcr right now.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Terkay is now one of my favorites.

 

That is all.

[Rob Anybody]

what was that crappy TNA-like move Rey did on Kennedy? I mean, for Rey, it's different, but I really hate those ridiculous "Canadian Destroyer" type moves.

 

If it's what I'm thinking of, from what I saw it was a hurracanrana - the original one that ends in a pin (rana).

 

Oh, and joining in the Terkay love, although I want to see more Burke.

[Guest Human Highlight Reel]

I just don't get why Chavo is in any way the heel in this. Over the past year Rey has used his son in an angle to get himself over, and then used the death of his best friend to get himself into the main event. Do they even realize how bad Rey looks in some ways? In the end, they are asking fans to cheer for a guy who has been using his dead best friend, and to boo the dead man's nephew who is legitimately grieving.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Rey didn't get himself in the main event, he was put there, it's the writers who decided to go the Eddie route with it. He didn't use Eddie to get himself over, Rey was very over before Eddie passed. Eddie was one of Rey's best friends, you don't think he's grieving? Rey's a very religious man, he probably believes Eddie is "up there" watching him, and he's paying tribute to the man. Rey is not using Eddie anymore than Chavo is.

[Just John]

Further, there's a rumor of Vicki "turning heel" and siding with Chavo. Thing is, Vicki Guerrero CAN'T TURN HEEL. She frames the issue between them. It is Vicki who ultimately decides who is right and who is wrong here: If she sides with Rey, then Rey isn't offending the Guerreros, and Chavo is a bitter heel loner. If she sides with Chavo, then Rey is a sneaky opportunist using Eddie's name to get himself over.

 

The problem is SD tends to have very markish crowds who believe whatever the bookers give them. In some ways it's refreshing in this day and age, but you can't count on them to voice their displeasure with a bad angle. At worst they'll stay silent (like Orton/Rey). If Vicki sides with Chavo, Michael Cole will just go on a rant about how she's stupid and that Eddie's rolling over in his grave because his family is persecuting Rey.

 

what was that crappy TNA-like move Rey did on Kennedy? I mean, for Rey, it's different, but I really hate those ridiculous "Canadian Destroyer" type moves.

 

That flipping power bomb Rey did was the Code Red (popularized by Amazing Red). Rey's done it a couple times since joining WWE.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

Rey's always stealing Red's shit.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I've said it before, I hope the crowd turns Rey heel and Chavo face in this fued.

Why would you want that? Rey is a natural face, while Chavo is so much better as a heel. Chavo has never really been over as a face in the WWE, except when paired w/ Eddie. Any face heat Chavo would get would be because of his relation w/ Eddie, which we can all agree has got to stop (playing up Eddie for storylines).

[Guest Scorpy]

i am not actually sure i am in the right topic, but if i am wrong you would correct me, i guess. So, Yesterdays Smackdown! show was normal. Not good and not so bad. To be honest, This Diva Search thing pisses me off, and especially because of the show time Smackdown wastes for THIS. Main event wasnt as good as i expected. It was kind of...slow. In my opininon bookers should just try to finish this Chavo-Rey feud that involves poor Vicky.. thats awful i think. Regal and Finly look very good as a tag-team.

[Guest DRH 502]

I thought the Code Red was like the Cancun Tornado but with an extra turn into a legdrop?

[cabbageboy]

Human Highlight Reel, I get some of what you are saying but it's hard to know how they originally put this to Rey. I can see them saying "We want you to dedicate your Rumble performance to Eddie" and him agreeing, thinking it would be a moving moment. But then it kept going and got out of control. Either way I can't see Rey main eventing without doing this Eddie angle. Anyway what are you exactly arguing? That Rey is actually right to constantly mention Eddie, or that Chavo is the heel in this feud for being upset about it?

 

Compare the way Rey has used Eddie's death (and the closeness of their friendship isn't what I'm debating) with someone like Chris Benoit. Benoit is also grieving. But before he was injured Benoit wasn't out there dedicating all of his matches to Eddie. He did some low key tributes and that was it.

[Guest Human Highlight Reel]

Anyway what are you exactly arguing? That Rey is actually right to constantly mention Eddie, or that Chavo is the heel in this feud for being upset about it? Benoit is also grieving. But before he was injured Benoit wasn't out there dedicating all of his matches to Eddie. He did some low key tributes and that was it.

I'm arguing against you saying Rey is using Eddie. I wouldn't say he's right to constantly mention Eddie, but there's certainly nothing wrong with it. He hardly does it anymore anyway. Benoit is Benoit, and even he does the three amigos and some Eddie gestures. He doesn't get any shit for it. Rey won the biggest match of his career, there's nothing wrong with dedicating that to a recently passed friend.

[MarvinisaLunatic]

The New Talent Inititive is a good way to go about adding a lot of people at one time without it really looking bad but out of:

 

James/Stevens, Burke and Turk-eye and MVP

 

I dont see any of them hanging around long.

[Hawk 34]

I'm missing out on the new arrivals thanks to the local network going ahead and dropping UPN last month. I still don't where the CW network even ends up here.

[FroGG_NeaL]

I've said it before, I hope the crowd turns Rey heel and Chavo face in this fued.

Why would you want that? Rey is a natural face, while Chavo is so much better as a heel. Chavo has never really been over as a face in the WWE, except when paired w/ Eddie. Any face heat Chavo would get would be because of his relation w/ Eddie, which we can all agree has got to stop (playing up Eddie for storylines).

 

 

I already see Rey as the heel and Chavo as the face in this fued.

 

Everything Chavo is saying is true about Rey. It's the same shit that everybody's been saying since Eddie passed away.

[MarvinisaLunatic]

I'm missing out on the new arrivals thanks to the local network going ahead and dropping UPN last month. I still don't where the CW network even ends up here.

 

Thats whats happening to me after next week. CW doesn't launch until September 18th, so thats what, 4 weeks of Smackdown Im going to miss.

[Golgo 13]

I thought the Code Red was like the Cancun Tornado but with an extra turn into a legdrop?

 

That's the Infrared.

 

I think the Code Red is actually a lot more believable than the Destroyer.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

James/Stevens, Burke and Turk-eye and MVP

 

I dont see any of them hanging around long.

Stevens and Turkay will stay. They probably have big things planned for Stevens, like Doane on Raw. The guy is the next Edge/Nitro clone. I can see them dropping James and Burke pretty fast. I've haven't seen MVP wrestle before, but I like his gimmick, he seems interesting so far.

[Exslade ZX]

Rey's always stealing Red's shit.

Rey did it first...

 

And I believe it would be the other way around anyways...I remember an interview or something with Red saying Rey was one of his idols, and that's why he did a few moves from his moveset (Like the 619 a lot, in early TNA)

[FroGG_NeaL]

what was that crappy TNA-like move Rey did on Kennedy? I mean, for Rey, it's different, but I really hate those ridiculous "Canadian Destroyer" type moves.

 

 

That's awesome that someone would refer to a move as TNA-like.

 

Further proof that TNA is establishing itself as it's own thing, instead of just another wrestling fed.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

Rey's always stealing Red's shit.

Rey did it first...

Hmm. Red does it better anyway, much faster. Rey's on Kennedy looked like slow shit.

[tekcop]

Rey's always stealing Red's shit.

LA Park's been doing it for years. He's a lot bigger than both guys, too.

[MarvinisaLunatic]

James/Stevens, Burke and Turk-eye and MVP

 

I dont see any of them hanging around long.

Stevens and Turkay will stay. They probably have big things planned for Stevens, like Doane on Raw. The guy is the next Edge/Nitro clone. I can see them dropping James and Burke pretty fast. I've haven't seen MVP wrestle before, but I like his gimmick, he seems interesting so far.

 

Like the WWE needs another Edge/Nitro clone.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

They don't, but that's what they'll do with him.

[cabbageboy]

I have been a fan of KC James since I saw him at an OVW house show and he did a riotous Memphis heel schtick. It might be too regional to get over in WWE however. Neither James or Stevens is particularly good in the ring, but James has it all over him in terms of natural charisma. Aaron "The Idol" Stevens had a fantastic gimmick in OVW with Beth Phoenix and Shelly (now Ariel on ECW). Once they broke up the menage a trois his heat vanished, because then people saw he was a fairly mediocre worker with bland mic skills.

[bob_barron]

I've said it before, I hope the crowd turns Rey heel and Chavo face in this fued.

Why would you want that? Rey is a natural face, while Chavo is so much better as a heel. Chavo has never really been over as a face in the WWE, except when paired w/ Eddie. Any face heat Chavo would get would be because of his relation w/ Eddie, which we can all agree has got to stop (playing up Eddie for storylines).

 

 

I already see Rey as the heel and Chavo as the face in this fued.

 

Everything Chavo is saying is true about Rey. It's the same shit that everybody's been saying since Eddie passed away.

 

But Chavo sucks as a face. Rey sucks as a heel.

[Guest Human Highlight Reel]

That's awesome that someone would refer to a move as TNA-like.

Further proof that TNA is establishing itself as it's own thing, instead of just another wrestling fed.

Not that awesome that someone would refer to a move they thought was crappy as TNA-like. I don't think that's what TNA wants to establish itself as.

[Black Lushus]

That's awesome that someone would refer to a move as TNA-like.

Further proof that TNA is establishing itself as it's own thing, instead of just another wrestling fed.

Not that awesome that someone would refer to a move they thought was crappy as TNA-like. I don't think that's what TNA wants to establish itself as.

 

there it is

[Guest J0bber]

Terkay is overrated. He missed a so called knock out punch on that jobber by about five inches. His submissions aren't really anything special either. He is the modern day version of Hercules Hernadez thrown in with a bit of technical ability and a fight background.