Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Main Event Diego Sanchez vs Karo Parysian (WW) TV Card Chris Leben vs Jorge Santiago Dean Lister vs Yuki Sasaki Josh Koscheck vs Jonathan Goulet Undercard Jake O'Brien vs Christophe Midoux Pat Healy vs Anthony Torres Jason Von Flue vs Joe Riggs Sam Morgan vs Forrest Petz Martin Kampmann vs Crafton Wallace I'm on the fence with this show. On one hand you've got Diego vs Karo which should kick some serious ass and is easily the biggest main event on the UFN series so far. On the other hand the UFC is once again putting a bunch of fights on TV that can easily go the distance which is the #1 reason why the last few UFN's have blown so badly. Bonnar/Jardine and Goulet/Cummo are the only entertaining 3-rounders they've had in contrast to Evans/Hoger, Leben/Fiorvanti, Evans/Bonnar and Sylvia/Silva. I love how Leben is talking all kinds of shit about how he feels bad for Jorge because he's the first guy to face him after the Silva loss. Apparently Santiago is a standup fighter which means the minute Leben actually gets into it with the guy he'll go right for the clinch. I'd like to be proven wrong here. Koscheck/Goulet could easily go the distance but I wouldn't put it past Koscheck to KO Goulet with a slam or, barring that, a stiff exhalation from his nostrils. Not a single LW on this card either is hella weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 I've seen Jorge Santiago before on the KOTC, he was facing a pre-TUF Diego Sanchez. He held his own with Diego, maybe he's got better since that fight. I'm going to be rooting for him because I can't stand Leben. I think Koscheck is going to submit or KO Goulet. I don't see it lasting the distance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Any chance that Jason Von Flue vs Joe Riggs makes the show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Any chance that Jason Von Flue vs Joe Riggs makes the show? If it only lasts a minitue and they have enough time. Pretty dumb question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 I'm gonna watch cause its MMA...and its live. On cable TV. But nothing here has me excited...I'm really rooting for Koscheck to show up and be on a new level. I have all the confidence that if he put his mind to training he could be a top 10 fighter in the next few years. I'm semi interested in Riggs/Von Flue and Morgan/whoever. Karo vs. Diego i'm VERY interested in. This is it for Diego Sanchez, if he can beat Karo no one can deny him as a top tier welterweight. On the other hand, Karo is pissed he got fucked outta his title shot, and he I honestly think dude is gonna make an example out of anyone who steps in there with him. His ground and pound on Nick Thompson was Fedor-eqsue and i'd love to see it against Diego. I really, really don't like Diego Sanchez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Lister is going to sub Sasaki quick style, and Koscheck is going to smash Goulet by being better at almost everything than Cummo, so look for the quick JVF/Riggs fight to make air, and possibly Kampmann & Wallace beating the crap out of each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Let it not go without mention that Crafton Wallace is a sweet name. EHME, if we were to appoint somebody in this folder to criticize others for "dumb questions" then it definetly wouldn't be you. It was a perfectly reasonable thing to ask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Any chance that Jason Von Flue vs Joe Riggs makes the show? If it only lasts a minitue and they have enough time. Pretty dumb question. It should be on the live show instead of the Dean Lister vs Japanese guy fight, at least Joe Riggs is a name people recognize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Yeah but he's also synonymous with losing and Lister isn't, at least not yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Let it not go without mention that Crafton Wallace is a sweet name. EHME, if we were to appoint somebody in this folder to criticize others for "dumb questions" then it definetly wouldn't be you. It was a perfectly reasonable thing to ask. I have rarely asked dumb questions in the past, I might have said dumb things, but I don't remember asking stupid questions. How is it perfectly reasonable to ask? The televised card was already posted, and it's the same format Spike TV uses all the time, with the whole "If we got enough air time, we'll show this fight if it isn't long" format. It has always been like this, so why ask something stupid? I assume this isn't the 1st time raz has watched UFN on Spike TV, if it has then I apologize for my comments. It should be on the live show instead of the Dean Lister vs Japanese guy fight, at least Joe Riggs is a name people recognize. They are trying to build up Dean Lister as a contender in the MW divison. Wasn't Kalib Starnes suppose to be fighting the Japanese guy, but was replaced by Lister? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 I'm picking Diego to win the main event, though this is as close to a pick'em fight as one can have. I just think while his striking is not as good his wrestling is superior and while Karo might get a nice judo throw here or there, Diego's double will probably work more often. Also, I think Diego is better off his back so I think he will eek out a judges' decision. I don't see a finish, but I'd like to. I'm cheering for Diego 100% though, I've done a complete 180 on the guy. I used to hate him, but then when everyone else started bashing him just for being cocky and stupid while ignoring the fact that he was a damn good fighter, I just had to root for him. It sucks that he doesn't get respect from most fans because the guy deserves it. Koscheck via smashing of Goulet. Lister via big brother twisting of Sasaki. Ugh, Leben on TV again? And he's facing a guy who he's expected to beat too. It seems like the UFC is just focused on pushing this guy. I hope he loses but he'll probably win a decision. Don't care about any of the undercard fights really. I can't believe they brought back Anthony Torres. Christ, the UFC is milking this reality show for all it was worth. I'm afraid we may never get a card like UFC 49 or 52 again. They're gonna be spread so thin they won't be able to stack up something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 If Dean Lester has more than 3 fights in UFC then give him the Unleashed buildup otherwise leave UFN to TUF regulars or vets who are on the comeback trail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 If Leben loses again are they finally gonna cut ties with him? I like the guy, but he's not living up to the hype the UFC's created for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 If Dean Lester has more than 3 fights in UFC then give him the Unleashed buildup otherwise leave UFN to TUF regulars or vets who are on the comeback trail. I really hate that idea. Lister has fought in PRIDE, and most recently fought in UFC 60 when he choked out Sakara. Plus he has a little bit of exposure for being a grappling/submission teacher under Tito's team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 Koscheck via smashing of Goulet. I seem to remember Goulet as more of a standup guy for some reason. Whatever. Koschek continues his rise up the WW ranks. Lister via big brother twisting of Sasaki. For some reason I read that as "titty twisting", which would be hilarious to actually hear announced. "The winner by tapout due to a titty twister, The Boogeyman, Dean Lister!" Ugh, Leben on TV again? And he's facing a guy who he's expected to beat too. It seems like the UFC is just focused on pushing this guy. I hope he loses but he'll probably win a decision. They push him because people hate him. If he got X-Pac heat, they'd get rid of the guy. Don't care about any of the undercard fights really. I can't believe they brought back Anthony Torres. Christ, the UFC is milking this reality show for all it was worth. I'm afraid we may never get a card like UFC 49 or 52 again. They're gonna be spread so thin they won't be able to stack up something like that. Maybe they're bringing back Torres to help fill a new PPV down the line - "Hawaii and Alaska vs the Lower 48". Penn vs Karo, Hoger vs Swick etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 If Leben loses again are they finally gonna cut ties with him? I like the guy, but he's not living up to the hype the UFC's created for him. What the fuck are you talking about the dude is 5-1. I don't like him and he's far from a top level fighter but Jesus Christ he lost 1 fight to Anderson Silva...ANDERSON FUCKING SILVA and he's "not living up to the hype the UFC's created for him"?? Huh? EDIT: 5-1 in the UFC I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 Assuming Leben wins this and Swick loses to Loiseau in November there's no reason why we shouldn't get Leben/Swick on PPV in November or December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2006 If Leben loses again are they finally gonna cut ties with him? I like the guy, but he's not living up to the hype the UFC's created for him. What the fuck are you talking about the dude is 5-1. I don't like him and he's far from a top level fighter but Jesus Christ he lost 1 fight to Anderson Silva...ANDERSON FUCKING SILVA and he's "not living up to the hype the UFC's created for him"?? Huh? EDIT: 5-1 in the UFC I mean. Leben has the I'll-pay-to-see-him-lose heat just like Ken Shamrock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted August 17, 2006 I hope he knocks dude out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Goulet musta went to Saskatchewan for this fight, cause he had to have a Moose Jaw to withstand that big punch from Kos. Ugh, I'm not funny, especially when I try to throw in Canadian humor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Impressive win for Koscheck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Goulet was OWWWWNNNNNED HAAAAAAAAAAARD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Now if only Rashad Evans reads the internet, maybe he could learn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Dean Lister v.s. Yuki Sasaki was a pretty interesting first round. Coulda been allloooot worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 WHOOOOOOOOOOA That was a dramatic as shit second round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Leben stole Chad Johnson's idea for the mohawk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 I hate the full back tatoo Leben has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Maybe it's just my lack of experience in MMA, but Leben's takedowns don't look very good. Kinda just walks in, bearhugs the guy, and tries to drag his opponent down. It looks like Santiago can tag him hard when he comes in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Hey, look, Leben didn't go to a decision. Good for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Would Sylvia sitting in the crowd wearing the belt with street clothes be cool, or lame? It's almost a bit of both. DAMN Leben got Santiago flush. Nighty night sweet prince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
