Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 I think this guy is taking a dive for someone. It's too shady that nothing has been done/said about this cold case for 10 years and then Patsy dies and what 2 months later a break in the case and the killer is found. I'm not buying it. Yeah. Damn her for dying of cancer! She took the easy way out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Is it just me, or does he look like the front man/album cover of a 80's New Romantic band? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Okay, I never understood; why would they kill their own daughter? Like, even if they didn't need money or anything, why would they kill their daughter? Was there ever a motive suggested to the possibility of it being her parents? Or is it just thought that they're nuts? A reason could be that JonBenet supposedly had constant health problems. Maybe she got so sick to the point she couldn't "model" any longer. Maybe the parents "euthanized" her. Maybe she hurt herself badly. Maybe she pissed off the parents so much since she was likely miserable living the life she had. And like Kotz says, the parents got to be fucked in the head to have your kid do the "modeling" shit was doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSA09 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 I think this guy is taking a dive for someone. It's too shady that nothing has been done/said about this cold case for 10 years and then Patsy dies and what 2 months later a break in the case and the killer is found. I'm not buying it. Yeah. Damn her for dying of cancer! She took the easy way out! The cancer was dumb luck, but I think Karr is taking a dive. My money is still on the parents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2006 Okay, I never understood; why would they kill their own daughter? Like, even if they didn't need money or anything, why would they kill their daughter? Was there ever a motive suggested to the possibility of it being her parents? Or is it just thought that they're nuts? A reason could be that JonBenet supposedly had constant health problems. Maybe she got so sick to the point she couldn't "model" any longer. Maybe the parents "euthanized" her. Maybe she hurt herself badly. Maybe she pissed off the parents so much since she was likely miserable living the life she had. And like Kotz says, the parents got to be fucked in the head to have your kid do the "modeling" shit was doing. "Could be" and "maybe" are the key phrases in your theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2006 I'm going with Rando on this. This motherfucker probably did some disgusting shit overseas and bailed out so he could get the comfort of a US prison. ESCAPE FROM BANGKOK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheShooter 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2006 The fact is after ten years nothing has surfaced as a motive for the Ramsey's to have killed their daughter. All of the theories that Leena suggested are just that, theories. And you still have to look at the manner in which the child was killed. If Patty snapped after JonBenet wet the bed, maybe she hits her over the head and kills her, but why would she construct an elaborate noose-like device out of rope and a paint brush handle and choke her to death with that? It doesn't make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 He might not have done it... doesn't match POSTED: 3:59 p.m. EDT, August 28, 2006 Adjust font size: BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- The DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in 1996, CNN affiliate KUSA is reporting. KUSA, based in Denver, Colorado, quoted two sources in a bulletin on its Web site: "9NEWS has confirmed from two sources that the DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr is not a match with the foreign DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in 1996. 9NEWS has also learned the Boulder County District Attorney's office will not file charges against Karr in connection with the Ramsey case." CNN is working to independently confirm the report as Karr awaits his first court appearance in Colorado later Monday afternoon. Karr will appear before Judge Roxanne Bailin at 4:30 p.m. (6:30 p.m. ET). Earlier Monday, Karr's defense team requested that prosecutors hand over DNA evidence in the Ramsey case. Public disclosure of any DNA evidence was specifically barred by a gag order issued Friday. The order applies to all attorneys and law enforcement officials involved in the case. While the principals can discuss some aspects of the case, they are not allowed to say anything that could jeopardize Karr receiving a fair trial The order is necessary because of "the intense interest of the media in this matter and the amount of publicity that has resulted," Bailin wrote. "The court is concerned that the extensive participant and public comment will disrupt the processes by which a fair trial may be preserved." The 41-year-old suspect is being held in Boulder County Jail on suspicion of first-degree murder, first- and second-degree kidnapping, and sexual assault. No formal charges have been filed yet by Boulder prosecutors. Documents list Karr's birthplace as Conyers, Georgia, and his occupation as "teacher." On Thursday, Deputy State Public Defender Seth Temin said Karr qualifies as an indigent, and he will be defending him. Temin formally informed the court of the move in a filing Friday. Temin also filed a motion Friday asking the court to order any samples of Karr's handwriting to be sealed. "Counsel is without sufficient knowledge about all the facts of the case to be able to evaluate the prejudice that may be associated with release of any of the defendant's handwriting," Temin said in the written request. A handwritten ransom note from the Ramsey house could be part of a murder case. Bailin has ordered the Colorado State Public Defender's office not to release the arrest warrant application. The judge gave Temin until noon (2 p.m. ET) Monday to file a response on that issue. Karr was brought back to the United States from Bangkok, Thailand. He arrived in Colorado Thursday evening from California, where he skipped bail in 2001 after being charged in Sonoma County with five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography. Karr appeared at a brief hearing in Los Angeles and waived extradition to Colorado. (Watch Patsy Ramsey's sister reveal what the family will do if Karr isn't guilty -- 4:11) Karr was arrested August 16 in Thailand in connection with the decade-old case. He told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The child's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home. Autopsy results showed she had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle. Several media outlets have filed a motion to unseal Karr's arrest warrant and supporting affidavit. In its response to the motion, the district attorney's office repeated several times that the investigation of Karr "is in its very early stages." Prosecutors agreed the arrest warrant should be unsealed but said that unsealing the supporting affidavit could taint the ongoing investigation, including interviews not yet conducted. "It is crucial that people we interview provide information that is as accurate as possible, unaffected by influences other than their own resources and their best recollections," the documents said. After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing. Earlier this year, Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, alerted authorities to e-mails he had been receiving from a person now believed to be Karr. Tracey, who has produced a documentary about the Ramsey case, said there was something in the e-mails "that made me decide I had to try and do something." But he would not say just what prompted him to contact prosecutors. A law enforcement official told CNN that Karr's e-mails to Tracey were initially innocuous but that the professor contacted authorities when they became "weird." The communications were eventually tracked to Thailand. Tracey told CNN Thursday he also learned Karr's name five days before the arrest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheShooter 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 End of story. Send the freak back to California to deal with the child porn charges and end this circus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 They must have had more than his confession, though. Remember,they sought him out, they must have had some shred of actual proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 They must have had more than his confession, though. Remember,they sought him out, they must have had some shred of actual proof. The desperate need to clear a decade long case that has haunted your office can make people do crazy things like ignore the need for real proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 They must have had more than his confession, though. Remember,they sought him out, they must have had some shred of actual proof. The desperate need to clear a decade long case that has haunted your office can make people do crazy things like ignore the need for real proof. I suppose, well, he's not being charged. BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- Schoolteacher John Mark Karr will not be charged with the murder of 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor JonBenet Ramsey, Karr's attorney said Monday. "The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney," public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. "They are not proceeding with the case." He said a hearing scheduled later Monday afternoon has been canceled. Temin also said he was "deeply disturbed" that authorities in Boulder brought Karr from Thailand with what appears to have been scant evidence. Colorado authorities have not commented on their decision not to pursue charges against the man named in a warrant alleging murder, kidnapping and sexual assault on a child. But CNN's Denver affiliate, KUSA, reported that the DNA sample taken from Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet's body. KUSA quoted two sources in a bulletin on its Web site. KUSA reported that samples of Karr's saliva and hair were taken in Boulder after his arrival Thursday evening. Those samples were tested over the weekend by the Denver Police Department's crime lab. Those tests ruled out Karr's DNA as the foreign DNA left on JonBenet's body when she was slain in December 1996, the station reported on its Web site. CNN is working to independently confirm the report. Karr still could face child pornography charges in California. Earlier Monday, Karr's defense team requested that prosecutors hand over DNA evidence in the Ramsey case. The 41-year-old suspect was being held in Boulder County Jail on suspicion of first-degree murder, first- and second-degree kidnapping, and sexual assault. It was not immediately known whether he would be freed or transferred to California. Karr was brought back last week to the United States from Bangkok, Thailand. He arrived in Colorado Thursday evening from California, where he skipped bail in 2001 after being charged in Sonoma County with five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography. Karr appeared at a brief hearing in Los Angeles and waived extradition to Colorado. (Watch Patsy Ramsey's sister reveal what the family will do if Karr isn't guilty -- 4:11) He told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The child's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home. Autopsy results showed she had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle. After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing. Earlier this year, Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, alerted authorities to e-mails he had been receiving from a person now believed to be Karr. Tracey, who has produced a documentary about the Ramsey case, said there was something in the e-mails "that made me decide I had to try and do something." But he would not say just what prompted him to contact prosecutors. A law enforcement official told CNN that Karr's e-mails to Tracey were initially innocuous but that the professor contacted authorities when they became "weird." The communications were eventually tracked to Thailand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 They must have had more than his confession, though. Remember,they sought him out, they must have had some shred of actual proof. The desperate need to clear a decade long case that has haunted your office can make people do crazy things like ignore the need for real proof. Some people in this very thread should run for District Attorney spots in Colorado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Well, back to thinking the parents did it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 It was one of them God damn hooligans that did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Well this case once again took a bizarre turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 *laughs* well so much for that. ps I still dont think the parents did it, at least not the actual physical killing. Still, he's being held for child porn charges, so hopefully they NAIL him for that, so some good can come of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 Loved Faux news tonight on the "No Spin" show acting like this is some HUGE SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT. Anyone with any common sense could see why this guy was claiming he did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheShooter 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 The only people who look stupider than the Boulder DA right now are the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheShooter 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 They must have had more than his confession, though. Remember,they sought him out, they must have had some shred of actual proof. There was no solid evidence. All they had was those emails he sent to that wacky British professor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zaius 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2006 The only people who look stupider than the Boulder DA right now are the media. "A week from now, everyone's going to feel stupid for ever paying atttention to this." -Me, a week ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2006 That dude better get fucked up in US prison, for pulling this shit and doing it to get out of going to a SA jail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2006 That dude better get fucked up in US prison, for pulling this shit and doing it to get out of going to a SA jail. Whatever happens to him in US prison will be a million times better than what could have happened to him in Thailand. They don't fuck around over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted September 6, 2006 ...and you know this how? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
