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[Guest Totally Crazy]

It'd be funny if Flair yelling at the young guys back fired and the crowds turned on "grumpy old" Flair.

 

why not, I mean he's lost to all of them already. He's been there forver and cant remember who he is...that's not wrestling, thats an old folks home!

[Downhome 0]

From PWInsider:

 

For those of you who are wondering why WWE yanked the four way ladder match from the No Way Out PPV, the reason is that Vince McMahon decided over the weekend that (as of right now, since they keep going back and forth on this) The Hardy Boyz and MNM will no longer be teaming. Matt Hardy, Joey Mercury, Jeff Hardy and Johnny Nitro will be going back to singles roles on their respective brands.

 

With that decision made, the feeling was that having the Four Way ladder match at the No Way Out PPV was meaningless, so they've switched gears to allow Deuce and Domino to challenge WWE Tag Team champions Paul London and Brian Kendrick instead. Stephanie McMahon made the call to change the match.

 

WWE has gone back and forth on whether to keep the teams together or not, so this is just the latest in that trend.

EDIT:

 

I didn't notice that there is a NWO thread with this posted in it already, so I'll post another bit from PWInsider audio:

 

-There is a lot of talk going on about Paul Heyman being brought back, not on the creative team, but to lead the ECW originals. They might do an anlge where Heyman cuts a major promo, saying that before he was doing what Vince was telling him to do, but now he's back and will finally stand up to Vince, and help lead his boys to win the war.

 

Also from PWInsider:

 

ECW HEADLINER SUSPENDED

by Mike Johnson @ 5:22:00 PM on 2/12/2007

 

As first reported last Thursday in the audio section of www.PWInsiderElite.com, ECW brand headliner Test has been suspended for what sources believe to be a violation of the WWE Wellness program. Test was pulled from house show lineups last week and was not at last week's ECW TV taping. It is believed the series of losses to ECW champion Bobby Lashley were done to send a message.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Magic eight

 

Get ready for the biggest star studded 8-Man Tag Team Match in history. John Cena will join Undertaker, HBK and Batista to battle Edge, Randy Orton, MVP and Mr. Kennedy. With 8 stellar athletes in the ring, who will survive?

 

Who gets to do the el jobski?

[foleyfanforever88 0]

Magic eight

 

Get ready for the biggest star studded 8-Man Tag Team Match in history. John Cena will join Undertaker, HBK and Batista to battle Edge, Randy Orton, MVP and Mr. Kennedy. With 8 stellar athletes in the ring, who will survive?

 

Who gets to do the el jobski?

 

HBK pins MVP.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

That match sounds good. Wonder why they're wasting it on a Raw that's not airing in the US on Monday. Maybe I answered my own question.

 

God, I remember how hyped I was in 1999 for the big SkyDome Raw that wasn't airing in the States until Saturday. Us Canadians were pumped to watch the biggest Raw in history days before the Americans!

 

We got Steve Blackman vs The Rock and Vince pinning Austin in a stupid gauntlet.

[Scroby 0]

From PWInsider:

 

For those of you who are wondering why WWE yanked the four way ladder match from the No Way Out PPV, the reason is that Vince McMahon decided over the weekend that (as of right now, since they keep going back and forth on this) The Hardy Boyz and MNM will no longer be teaming. Matt Hardy, Joey Mercury, Jeff Hardy and Johnny Nitro will be going back to singles roles on their respective brands.

 

With that decision made, the feeling was that having the Four Way ladder match at the No Way Out PPV was meaningless, so they've switched gears to allow Deuce and Domino to challenge WWE Tag Team champions Paul London and Brian Kendrick instead. Stephanie McMahon made the call to change the match.

 

WWE has gone back and forth on whether to keep the teams together or not, so this is just the latest in that trend.

EDIT:

 

I didn't notice that there is a NWO thread with this posted in it already, so I'll post another bit from PWInsider audio:

 

-There is a lot of talk going on about Paul Heyman being brought back, not on the creative team, but to lead the ECW originals. They might do an anlge where Heyman cuts a major promo, saying that before he was doing what Vince was telling him to do, but now he's back and will finally stand up to Vince, and help lead his boys to win the war.

 

Look everyone...WWE IS ACTUALLY USING LOGIC!!!! I'm shocked.

[luke-o 0]

Hope luke-o doesn't see you call Jimmy Yang a bad part of SmackDown, he'll start ranting and swearing for no reason.

He's the fucking best part of fucking smack fuckin down.

 

Will that do?

 

I like Jimmy Yang, and wish he didnt have to turn into a cartoonish baffon in order to get noticed from WWEs anti ROH approached fanbase.

 

I'm sorry, but i find a stupid Asian Redneck gimmick funny. It's all about JBL's commentary selling, just as it was with Vito's stupid dress gimmick.

 

Wait,

 

swearing for no reason

 

Im british, leave me alone

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I knew being from England was the reason! It says so in your TSMpedia entry.

 

Being an Asian Redneck doesn't really hinder his ability to wrestle in the ring. Whether he's Akio, Jimmy Yang, or Jimmy Wang, he'd pretty much be doing the same style working for the E. He just has a better chance to get over with the general fan base this way.

[Scroby 0]

Just read the ECW pre-view and they're finally doing a Extreme rules match...but its Holly vs Lashley.

[luke-o 0]

Being an Asian Redneck doesn't really hinder his ability to wrestle in the ring. Whether he's Akio, Jimmy Yang, or Jimmy Wang, he'd pretty much be doing the same style working for the E. He just has a better chance to get over with the general fan base this way.

 

At least it gives him more chance on TV. Which apperantly it doesn't.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Being an Asian Redneck doesn't really hinder his ability to wrestle in the ring. Whether he's Akio, Jimmy Yang, or Jimmy Wang, he'd pretty much be doing the same style working for the E. He just has a better chance to get over with the general fan base this way.

 

At least it gives him more chance on TV. Which apperantly it doesn't.

 

Well he did have that CW title match at Armageddon. And there was that big Tatanka feud before the mass firings. Maybe they just need to find something for him. "Will they bother to look?" is another matter.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Serious question that doesn't warrant a thread:

 

Is the idea of "killing a town" by laying a complete egg of a show invalid now with regards to WWE? I know I've personally never let a crappy show in Charleston deter me from coming to the next, but the only really bad shows we've had were the Ass Cream and Bischoff Gets Dumped Raws. DrVenkman mentioned the SkyDome Raw and that would generally be seen as crapping all over the home crowd, although not on the same level as the annual JR humiliation in Oklahoma. Still, I haven't seen an instance in the years since things bottomed out where a crap show lead to a smaller crowd later.

[RedJed 0]

Anyone know where or when the Raw feed from Canada would be avaliable on a torrent site after the show is done? Forgive my ignorance, I don't need or want to download torrents much but I definately want to see Raw before Thursday this week.

[Angle-plex 0]

Carlito jobbing to Kahli is meaningless. Kahli is booked as an unstoppable monster that nobody can beat. Carlito just looks like everyone else by being destroyed by him.

[fazzle 0]

Does it really matter?

 

It's a HOUSE SHOW. Carlito could job to me tomorrow, and he'd look no worse for it on TV.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Carlito jobbing to Kahli is meaningless. Kahli is booked as an unstoppable monster that nobody can beat. Carlito just looks like everyone else by being destroyed by him.

Except most people last more than 15 seconds.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Serious question that doesn't warrant a thread:

 

Is the idea of "killing a town" by laying a complete egg of a show invalid now with regards to WWE? I know I've personally never let a crappy show in Charleston deter me from coming to the next, but the only really bad shows we've had were the Ass Cream and Bischoff Gets Dumped Raws. DrVenkman mentioned the SkyDome Raw and that would generally be seen as crapping all over the home crowd, although not on the same level as the annual JR humiliation in Oklahoma. Still, I haven't seen an instance in the years since things bottomed out where a crap show lead to a smaller crowd later.

 

Hypothetically, if ECW ONS 3 had the same ticket prices as ONS 1, there might be some problems, although whether that would be more "killing the town / hardcore fanbase" thanks to that ECW TV taping in August, or just the gradual killing of the brand would be up for debate.

 

I mentioned that example before but Hawk 34 just said "small arena, big WWE fanbase, no problems" and he's probably right.

[Angle-plex 0]

Carlito jobbing to Kahli is meaningless. Kahli is booked as an unstoppable monster that nobody can beat. Carlito just looks like everyone else by being destroyed by him.

Except most people last more than 15 seconds.

 

Maybe they shouldn't be. If they're hell-bent on pushing Kahli, who can't wrestle a lick, the matches should be as short as possible, to get over the fact that he is unstoppable while not exposing how shitty his wrestling is. If Carlito lasts 10 minutes against Kahli....what does that say about Kahli? It takes a guy THAT big and THAT strong ten minutes to beat a much shorter guy that has been booked as an average wrestler since he debuted. That would make both guys look like garbage.

[Human Fly 0]

Serious question that doesn't warrant a thread:

 

Is the idea of "killing a town" by laying a complete egg of a show invalid now with regards to WWE? I know I've personally never let a crappy show in Charleston deter me from coming to the next, but the only really bad shows we've had were the Ass Cream and Bischoff Gets Dumped Raws. DrVenkman mentioned the SkyDome Raw and that would generally be seen as crapping all over the home crowd, although not on the same level as the annual JR humiliation in Oklahoma. Still, I haven't seen an instance in the years since things bottomed out where a crap show lead to a smaller crowd later.

 

Hypothetically, if ECW ONS 3 had the same ticket prices as ONS 1, there might be some problems, although whether that would be more "killing the town / hardcore fanbase" thanks to that ECW TV taping in August, or just the gradual killing of the brand would be up for debate.

 

I mentioned that example before but Hawk 34 just said "small arena, big WWE fanbase, no problems" and he's probably right.

 

I think an argument could be made for the 7-4-06 ECW killing Philly as an ECW town.

[Downhome 0]

Oh God, from PWInsider:

 

MAJOR ANGLE ANNOUNCED FOR WRESTLEMANIA 23

by Mike Johnson @ 9:23:00 PM on 2/12/2007

 

At the Raw taping currently ongoing in Portland, Oregon, the stipulation for the Donald Trump vs. Vince McMahon angle at Wrestlemania 23 was announced, as the loser will have their head shaved by the winner.

 

We'll have more details on the Raw taping here on PWInsider.com later tonight.

[LJSexay 0]

[ANKLELOCK 0]

Oh...my...God

 

 

I can't even imagine Vince bald

[Mecca 0]

Maybe Vince thinks shaving his head is a good way to appease all the smarks that hate him.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Maybe Vince thinks shaving his head is a good way to appease all the smarks that hate him.

The problem with that, according to mid 90s Lawler, is that Vince can just pull off his toupee to show himself bald.

 

And I still wish they'd just combine the Vince/Trump feud and the Vince/ECW Originals feud. Say that Trump bought out ECW, and have him have the originals represent him against a team of people led by Vince.

[Scroby 0]

Oh God, from PWInsider:

 

MAJOR ANGLE ANNOUNCED FOR WRESTLEMANIA 23

by Mike Johnson @ 9:23:00 PM on 2/12/2007

 

At the Raw taping currently ongoing in Portland, Oregon, the stipulation for the Donald Trump vs. Vince McMahon angle at Wrestlemania 23 was announced, as the loser will have their head shaved by the winner.

 

We'll have more details on the Raw taping here on PWInsider.com later tonight.

Meh, the stipulation could be a lot worse.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Why the hell would Trump allow his own name brand to be associated with the ECW Originals? Getting involved in the world of WWE is one thing, but the first thing I thought was that there's no way you see Trump cutting a glowing promo about Sandman and Sabu. They're the complete opposite of his mentality.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Why the hell would Trump allow his own name brand to be associated with the ECW Originals? Getting involved in the world of WWE is one thing, but the first thing I thought was that there's no way you see Trump cutting a glowing promo about Sandman and Sabu. They're the complete opposite of his mentality.

 

 

"THIS IS SABU... HE'S HOMICIDAL, GENOCIDAL, AND SUICIDAL... HE'S GONNAH BE HUGE!"

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Maybe Vince thinks shaving his head is a good way to appease all the smarks that hate him.

The problem with that, according to mid 90s Lawler, is that Vince can just pull off his toupee to show himself bald.

 

And I still wish they'd just combine the Vince/Trump feud and the Vince/ECW Originals feud. Say that Trump bought out ECW, and have him have the originals represent him against a team of people led by Vince.

If Trump sat down Vince in a barber's chair and just pulled off his toupee, that'd be a fun payoff.

[Hawk 34 0]

Why the hell would Trump allow his own name brand to be associated with the ECW Originals? Getting involved in the world of WWE is one thing, but the first thing I thought was that there's no way you see Trump cutting a glowing promo about Sandman and Sabu. They're the complete opposite of his mentality.

 

Really, to Donald I doubt he cares exactly he's paired with but I do agree that it's not the best for his image (not that appearing on WM does him much good as it is) to be paired with a known pot head with a record, a crazy looking arab, a fat tattooed dude in leather jacket in oversized shorts and The Sandman. Only Tommy Dreamer isn't a weird visual with Donald.

 

However and this is a big reach but what about bringing in a famous name that would work perfectly for this angle. Mick Foley. I know that it's not good to keep recycling retreads but they were dead set on Hogan until a couple weeks ago and Foley can still work.

 

I think Foley representing Original ECW (I think the fans have probably forgot that brief heel run last year) against someone from the "new" ECW would work great. Ideally, given that Foley is a major mark for him, I'd love to see CM Punk bring back his corporate suck up character. It'd be a great series of promos from all accords and the match would probably be fantastic but Punk outpopped DX and made out with his girlfriend so that will not happen. It'd be Lashley Vs Shane and be met with no heat until the inevitable final spot with Khali and Lashley and even that won't register much of a pop if at all.

[Enigma 0]

Or if he just rared back and pushed away his comb over hair. That would be even better.