Indy comments which don't warrant a thread

[Hawk 34 0]

I've been saying it's just a ploy to put Rave with the KOW. Rave needs to be "led" and without Nana, he's lost. Daizee left him and Sal isn't his bitch anymore.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

They can't just fire Jimmy cause of Nana leaving. Jimmy was the top heel in ROH for so long.

[Guest Connzilla]

I found this pic and didn't know where to post it and figured it was Chikara related and Chikara is indie so heres the pic

Its Gran Akuma vs. Doink The Clown

[Hasbeen1 0]

Who are some of the biggest names from WCW, WWF still out there on the indy scene? Guys like Bobby Eaton, for an example.

[tigeraid 0]

Glad to hear Joe's injury wasn't legit. I thought for sure it was, from what little I saw. Last time I make the mistake of staying in my seat when the crowd files out through the door.

 

Aries/Danielson was quite good, but not on par with their previous matches. I heartily agree that Hero/Sydal stole the show.

[King Cucaracha 0]

I found this pic and didn't know where to post it and figured it was Chikara related and Chikara is indie so heres the pic

Its Gran Akuma vs. Doink The Clown

 

Akuma is a CHIKARA student, but that doesn't look like any of the CHIKARA venues.

[Scroby 0]

So I get to Ref again on the 28th for California Championship Wrestling. It will be my 2nd time getting to be a Ref for a wrestling show and it'll my Referee debut for CCW.

[Hawk 34 0]

It only took 2 days but Brent Albright has already landed with ROH. That was fast and they made sure to debut him in OVW land (Dayton).

 

Albright could be ROH's next James Gibson type success.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Albright is out of OVW?

[Hawk 34 0]

Yes. He was cut by WWE, I believe on Monday.

[daileyxplanet 0]

Give it six months then WWE will pick him up again, THEN 6 more months in RoH.

[bob_barron 0]

Matt "Spike Runt Dudley" Hyson talks about real heroes last night

 

 

 

 

Last night I wrestled in Plymouth, MA for Top-Rope Promotions. It’s a small independent based out of New Bedford, MA which is close to my home in RI. Since I’ve been back on the indies they’ve adopted me into their family(Top-Rope is formerly Yankee Wrestling which has been around for over 27 years) and I work with them as often as I can. What I witnessed last night would have made national news, but since we’re just a local indy I doubt it made a blip on the news radar. However, I’m in such admiration of two men I feel obligated to let the wrestling world know what transpired.

The night was going great. The Plymouth Memorial Hall is a beautiful building and all the workers were jazzed about the venue. The matches flowed well and the audience was having a blast. The card was set up for six consecutive matches, an intermission while a steel cage was assembled, and we closed the show with the cage match. I was watching the legendary “Superfly” Jimmy Snuka wrestle the last match before intermission when one of the boys ran by saying Tony had collapsed. Tony Phillips Stevens is one of our referees (and a damn fine one I’d like to add) and had worked the previous match. Apparently he banged his head during the match but finished and seemed all right. I ran down the hallway to the locker room and saw Tony on his back gasping for breath. Two wrestlers were on their knees beside him trying to keep Tony calm and help him get a breath. Someone called 911.

The Widow-maker (Eric is his first name) and Johnny Angel have been wrestling on the New England indy scene for years. Neither men have made a lot of money or have aspirations of becoming the next Hulk Hogan. Yet their lack of national stardom has ever killed their love of wrestling. They are both family men with children, they both work “straight” jobs and they both love wrestling for wrestling. These were the two men beside Tony and what I saw next was the most heroic act I’ve witnessed.

As Tony lay on the floor his breaths came less and less frequently. Suddenly his head fell back and his eyes rolled in his head. I’ve only scene death at open casket funerals after the body has been worked on. When his eyes rolled I felt a cold flash and was sure Tony was dying, if not dead. Eric is a former Marine who was taught CPR in his service. I’m not sure where Johnny learned but he obviously knew what to do. When it was apparent that we were now in a life or death situation these men stepped up to the plate.

In shifts they performed CPR, alternating between pumping the chest and mouth-to-mouth. They did this with a calm, controlled confidence. They worked like a surgical team for at least ten minutes, back and forth, forcing the blood to move through his heart and oxygen in his lungs. The rest of us cleared out our bags to make way for the EMT’s and did our best to stay clear and quiet. We all prayed. Those minutes seemed like a lifetime. Johnny and Eric never stopped, never panicked and most of all, never stopped believing that Tony would live.

Finally (no offense to the team) the ambulance got there. At this point we all cleared out as they closed the doors. Waiting and praying in silence was all we could do. After about twenty minutes the door opened and Tony grunted out. The EMT reported Tony was breathing on his own and conscience. A giant gust of relief came out of all of us. I looked over and Johnny and Eric collapsed in an emotional release of joy, terror and exhaustion.

As both men broke down in tears I learned what true courage and bravery is all about. During all the chaos and panic they put aside anything that would mentally distract them from saving Tony’s life. It was truly awe inspiring. I think of what we would have done were they not there. Would I or anyone else in the locker room have the fortitude to save Tony’s life? People tend to over estimate their capabilities without experiencing true duress. Let’s face it we all look at ourselves as heroes. I now know I’m not even close. Johnny and Eric are the real deal.

I spoke with one of the firemen while he broke down the equipment after Tony was gone. He told me Tony was technically dead and they had to use those shock things on his chest to get his heart moving. Without Johnny and Eric performing CPR Tony would have died. I received word this morning that Tony was moved from the emergency room to a Boston hospital. I’m not a doctor but what was reported to me was Tony had a valve in his heart stop. Since they discovered the problem he can be treated and should come out ok. I’ll try to learn more as the day goes on.

Now that the crisis has passed, I felt obligated to share this story with the wrestling world. Johnny Angel and the Widow-maker are real heroes and should be commended. It’s an honor to know these men and a privilege to work with them and I hope the wrestling world recognizes these two real superstars.

 

---Brother Runt

[Hawk 34 0]

What the name of the song Nigel McGuiness uses in ROH?

 

And I'm watching alot of 'oldish' ROH on The Fight Network, and I was curious, when does Bryan Danielson lose the weird bearded look? The last show they aired had his title match with Austin Aries the night after his Best of 5 cage match with Homocide.

 

He dropped it when he came out of his brief "retirement" (which followed that Aries match) I believe he only shaved it because of his sister's wedding.

[DangerousDamon 0]

Nigel uses Oasis-Fuckin in the Bushes. It's such a bad ass theme song.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Isn't the "London Bridge" riff at the beginning from "Streets Of London" by the Anti-Nowhere League? Or did both songs use a similar riff at the beginning?

[bob_barron 0]

Fucking in the Bushes owns, but I miss Roll On.

[Hawk 34 0]

I put this match over in a previous thread (and might have here as well) but I wanted to express how fantastic Nigel/Danielson @ United was. The show as a whole was fantastic especially with the final two matches being perhaps the best two match finish in an American promotion (although it took place in UK) with the probable exception of the GBH5N2 show a month later with Kenta/Danielson and Nigel/Marufuji.

 

If you only going to get ONE Ring of Honor DVD from 2006, United might be the one to get and I say that knowing how great Super Card Of Honor, Better Then Our Best, Death Before Dishonor IV and others were for other current 2006 releases. I have every ROH release of 2006 aside from the last two (Gut Check and EE2) Unscripted II, How We Roll and WOTCN1 (I was there and it wasn't very good), so I think that is a good gauge for how great United was.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The latest stroke of genius from Ian Rotten.

 

From Plainfield, IN

 

About 75 people in attendance.

Ozaki and Lufisto are there. Sumie Sakai and Ann-Thraxxx who aren't listed in the tournament are as well.

 

Delilah Starr isn't there. Lufisto isn't wrestling. She broke her hand on Necro's face. Sumie Sakai is one of the replacements. Vanessa Kraven is the other one. Riptide isn't there I believe. Ann-Thraxxx is a replacement as well. Neither is Heather Owens. Not like that matters too much. Sexxxy Eddy is out and wants into the tournament.

 

1) Unlucky 13 Staple Gun Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Ann-Thraxxx

2) Thumbtack Deathmatch: Rachel Putzki beat Vanessa Kraven

3) 4 Corners of Pain: Sexxxy Eddy beat Amy Lee

4) Barbed Wire Ropes and Boards Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sumie Sakai

5) Taipei Death: Mickie Knuckles beat Rachel Putzki

6) 2/3 Falls Light Tube Log Cabin Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sexxxy Eddy

7) No Rope, Barbed Wire, FBTW, Electrified Light Tubes, Cage Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Mayumi Ozaki

 

The final match took 45 minutes to setup and lasted about 10 minutes, it was still good though. Vanessa Kraven and Lufisto attacked Mickie after the match.

 

Credit: Ryan

 

This is just stupid on so many levels.

[Hawk 34 0]

The latest stroke of genius from Ian Rotten.

 

From Plainfield, IN

 

About 75 people in attendance.

Ozaki and Lufisto are there. Sumie Sakai and Ann-Thraxxx who aren't listed in the tournament are as well.

 

Delilah Starr isn't there. Lufisto isn't wrestling. She broke her hand on Necro's face. Sumie Sakai is one of the replacements. Vanessa Kraven is the other one. Riptide isn't there I believe. Ann-Thraxxx is a replacement as well. Neither is Heather Owens. Not like that matters too much. Sexxxy Eddy is out and wants into the tournament.

 

1) Unlucky 13 Staple Gun Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Ann-Thraxxx

2) Thumbtack Deathmatch: Rachel Putzki beat Vanessa Kraven

3) 4 Corners of Pain: Sexxxy Eddy beat Amy Lee

4) Barbed Wire Ropes and Boards Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sumie Sakai

5) Taipei Death: Mickie Knuckles beat Rachel Putzki

6) 2/3 Falls Light Tube Log Cabin Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sexxxy Eddy

7) No Rope, Barbed Wire, FBTW, Electrified Light Tubes, Cage Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Mayumi Ozaki

 

The final match took 45 minutes to setup and lasted about 10 minutes, it was still good though. Vanessa Kraven and Lufisto attacked Mickie after the match.

 

Credit: Ryan

 

This is just stupid on so many levels.

 

You got Prazak making waves with SHIMMER, which has been incredible stuff for American Woman Wrestling (with matches that actually stack up against the men across the world) and then Ian drags the woman down with Extreme Woman's Wrestling. It works in moderation but a whole show designed around it? Fuck that.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Hopefully, this abomination flies under the radar.

[GODSON 0]

The Old School Empire turn on Damien Wayne.

[Scroby 0]

The latest stroke of genius from Ian Rotten.

 

From Plainfield, IN

 

About 75 people in attendance.

Ozaki and Lufisto are there. Sumie Sakai and Ann-Thraxxx who aren't listed in the tournament are as well.

 

Delilah Starr isn't there. Lufisto isn't wrestling. She broke her hand on Necro's face. Sumie Sakai is one of the replacements. Vanessa Kraven is the other one. Riptide isn't there I believe. Ann-Thraxxx is a replacement as well. Neither is Heather Owens. Not like that matters too much. Sexxxy Eddy is out and wants into the tournament.

 

1) Unlucky 13 Staple Gun Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Ann-Thraxxx

2) Thumbtack Deathmatch: Rachel Putzki beat Vanessa Kraven

3) 4 Corners of Pain: Sexxxy Eddy beat Amy Lee

4) Barbed Wire Ropes and Boards Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sumie Sakai

5) Taipei Death: Mickie Knuckles beat Rachel Putzki

6) 2/3 Falls Light Tube Log Cabin Match: Mayumi Ozaki beat Sexxxy Eddy

7) No Rope, Barbed Wire, FBTW, Electrified Light Tubes, Cage Match: Mickie Knuckles beat Mayumi Ozaki

 

The final match took 45 minutes to setup and lasted about 10 minutes, it was still good though. Vanessa Kraven and Lufisto attacked Mickie after the match.

 

Credit: Ryan

 

This is just stupid on so many levels.

Holy shit...how many gimmick deathmatches can you have on one card before the crowd (of 75!) gets really freaking bored with the hardcore stuff?

[Hawk 34 0]

The worst thing is people would do that to themselves, let alone for very little money in front of 75 people.

 

Like Ian actually paid them.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The worst thing is people would do that to themselves, let alone for very little money in front of 75 people.

 

Like Ian actually paid them.

75 people at, maybe, ten dollars a ticket is only $750. That show had to have lost even more money than Ian's shows usuallly do. It's amazing that IWA-MS is still around.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

God knows he's not having his wife turn tricks.

Though there is a market for that sort of thing. IWA-MS usually run there.

[King Cucaracha 0]

I'd point out IWA doesn't run deathmatch shows and deathmatch shows alone anymore and hasn't done for years, but whatever.

 

Plainfield is usually the deathmatch venue, I think. Everywhere else they tend to run straight wrestling with nobodies like Hero, Cannon, Cabana, Delirious, Sydal, Low Ki et all.

[Hawk 34 0]

I'd point out IWA doesn't run deathmatch shows and deathmatch shows alone anymore and hasn't done for years, but whatever.

 

Plainfield is usually the deathmatch venue, I think. Everywhere else they tend to run straight wrestling with nobodies like Hero, Cannon, Cabana, Delirious, Sydal, Low Ki et all.

 

Yeah, Hero, Cabana, Sydal, Delirious and Low Ki are nobodies. what?

[World's Worst Man 0]

Mayumi Ozaki being part of that makes me weep.

 

I finally saw the Blood Gen vs. Do Fixer match from Supercard of Honor yesterday. Can't say I was a big fan of the match. The pace was impressive, and the early FIP portions were very well done, but the selling later in the match was almost non-existent. It made my "list", but barely, and wouldn't be surprised if I soured it on more as time goes by.

[Hawk 34 0]

Mayumi Ozaki being part of that makes me weep.

 

I finally saw the Blood Gen vs. Do Fixer match from Supercard of Honor yesterday. Can't say I was a big fan of the match. The pace was impressive, and the early FIP portions were very well done, but the selling later in the match was almost non-existent. It made my "list", but barely, and wouldn't be surprised if I soured it on more as time goes by.

 

Why would you bother caring about selling in match that was being put over as an exhibition display? Sometimes things like selling is meaningless in the context of matches like that or any other spot based match. I'll take that match over the many methodical and plodding matches that are over praised because someone was a good actor. Bret sold leg injuries like he was literally being yanked limb by limb even for 10 minute jobber squashes on WWF Challenge, does the existance of Bret's outrageous selling make that a better match then something like this particular match that goes beyond almost anything out there (and some would say with conviction that this match was done better later on)? No, not even close.

 

I hate how people will watch a match just for the sole purpose of trying to determine where it places on a personal and subjective list. That's far from what the purpose of wrestling matches are and it really sours someone's entertainment if they are LOOKING for flaws. It's like going into a movie and saying "Okay, it needs a great plot, acting, writing, direction, photography, costume and a good ending" and after the movie ends, you take out that list and go "well, it had really great dialouge and the direction was awesome but the costumes and the colors were really bad, so it's barely on my list".

 

I didn't think that match was as great as it was hyped to be and has EASILY been blown away about 4-5 times in ROH since that night (and some might argue that Roderick and Dragon did so that very same night) but I do think it was incredible for what it was and it shouldn't be judged like a normal match because this was far from that.

 

It's like comparing The Matrix with Gone With The Wind. You can't put them on the same list because they are totally different with different purposes. Both excelled at what they were going for but you can't say one is better then the other because of pre established set of rules to qualify for some list.

[World's Worst Man 0]

Let's phrase this a different way then. Matches that go 100 miles per hour where all the spots are basically meaningless because they aren't appearing to be doing any damage to the wrestlers, do not entertain me very much. And really, I didn't have to look for any selling flaws in the match. It's hard to miss when a guy takes a "death finisher" and is up 20 seconds later like nothing happened. If you don't think the selling matters, whatever. With art/entertainment, people have different ideas about what they enjoy and what they don't.

 

I don't really care whether the match was meant to be this or that. There were things I saw in the match that I didn't care for, and I mentioned them. The match went over well, that's great. But it's like the Hogan-Andre thing. Someone can realize a match succeeded in doing what it set out to do, and still not personally like it. And unfortunately, I don't watch wrestling to see how much other people liked a match, I watch it to see how much I liked it.