Guest Felonies! Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 No, but I heard she doesn't cry as much as he does.
strummer Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 According to the NY Daily News, Tom Glavine is leaning towards returning to the Braves. Tom Glavine sounded as if he'd prefer to return to the Braves next season, though he had nothing against the Mets. He said the decision would be "100% about family." "I'm not home 81 days of the year," Glavine said. "If I'm in Atlanta, I'm home."
Guest Felonies! Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 They should bring back Maddux, Millwood, and some other guys to have a Braves Farewell Tour, since after 2007 they're pretty much off TBS and become Just Another Team, no more Skip and Pete, no more available to the nation than the Washington Nationals, no more remarkable than the Oakland A's. I'm only half-kidding. Recreate the magic one last time before fading into Fox Sports Regional oblivion.
Vern Gagne Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 Bring back Billy Sample and Ernie Johnson, Sr.
Slayer Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 after 2007 [the Braves] are pretty much off TBS and become Just Another Team, no more Skip and Pete, no more available to the nation than the Washington Nationals, no more remarkable than the Oakland A's. Man, I still can't believe that, especially since it leaves Chicago as the only national teams
bob_barron Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 Yea, it makes me want to move to Atlanta. I hate it.
Guest Felonies! Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 Yea, it makes me want to move to Atlanta. I hate it. Don't lie, Barron, you want some hot black ass at those strip clubs.
Slayer Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 He'll weigh down their g-strings with all those loonies
Precious Roy Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 They should bring back Maddux, Millwood, and some other guys to have a Braves Farewell Tour, since after 2007 they're pretty much off TBS and become Just Another Team, no more Skip and Pete, no more available to the nation than the Washington Nationals, no more remarkable than the Oakland A's. I'm only half-kidding. Recreate the magic one last time before fading into Fox Sports Regional oblivion. Why not? Otis Nixon is a spry and youthful 62, I'm sure Terry Pendleton can shed off that extra 150 lbs, and Jeff Blauser..........I can't come up with anything funny to say about Jeff Blauser.
Mik Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Posted October 22, 2006 Hilarious. I take the bus to work every day and the one bus driver looks exactly like Jeff Blauser. I even call him Blauser in my head. It's funny how many people remember those guys as a result of TBS.
Vern Gagne Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 I remember the Bomb Squad. When the Braves sucked. Skip was the best announcer in all of sports.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 Pedro's good luck charm passed away. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2635348
tominator89 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Posted October 23, 2006 Philies sign lefty Moyer, 43, to two-year extension Jamie Moyer will be 44 when the 2007 season starts, but the Phillies are banking that he has two more strong seasons remaining in his left arm. Philadelphia signed Moyer to a two-year, $10.5 million extension Monday. Moyer, who was acquired from the Mariners during the 2006 season, went 5-2 with a 4.03 ERA in eight starts for the Phillies and was 4-1 in September when the team made a failed push for the NL wild card. "Jamie was one of our more effective pitchers down the stretch," Phillies general manager Pat Gillick said. "He was an asset to our ballclub not just for his performance on the field, but also for his presence in the clubhouse." Overall in 2006, Moyer was 11-14 with a 4.30 ERA in 33 starts with Seattle and Philadelphia. He pitched at least 200 innings for the sixth straight season and eighth in the past nine years. In 20 major league seasons, Moyer is 216-166 with a 4.17 ERA. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2635825
Guest Felonies! Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 Alan Trammell is the new bench coach for the Cubs. Call me crazy, but I think we need him more at shortstop. The triumvirate of injury, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, and Wade Miller, will all be back next year at a combined $10 million, but none are expected to be ready for spring training. Medical science can turn a penis into a vagina, but can't get Mark Prior healthy in six months?
vivalaultra Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 The Cubs' Opening Day starter...Angel Guzman...or Zambrano...unless he gets traded for A-Rod. That would be funny. Maybe the Cubs' would take a package of Morgan Ensberg and one of Phil Garner's moustache combs for Zambrano. I'm eating Starbursts.
naiwf Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 The triumvirate of injury, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, and Wade Miller Que?
Guest Felonies! Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 Some people seem to actually think that Lou will bring Lee Elia back to the Playground For The Cocksuckers. Are they crazy?
vivalaultra Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 In news that everyone cares about, Joe Girardi has taken his name out of consideration for the managerial job of the Washington Nationals. Astros' bench coach Cecil Cooper is also out of the running for the job. I wonder if DC has a large stock of toothpicks...
CanadianChris Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 Chapter 29 in Richard Griffin's upcoming book, I Hate J.P. Ricciardi: That seventh inning "throw-pas" put the game in the hands of the former Jay, Carpenter, the '05 Cy Young award winner, but a man shooed out of Toronto by GM J.P. Ricciardi for not being tough enough, or in the same class of monetary compensation as other starters of similar age like Kevin Millwood, Freddie Garcia and Kerry Wood. ... The Jays' No. 1 draft pick in 1993, Carpenter pitched one season under the Ricciardi regime, falling out of favour and ending up having surgery on his right shoulder, not being offered a major league contract by the Jays. Carpenter signed with the Cards for guaranteed money, then mounted a fabulous comeback in '04 from his lost season going 15-5, with a 3.46 ERA, but was injured in early September and missed the post-season, including the World Series loss to the Red Sox. He wanted desperately to pitch in that World Series. To recap, Griffin is taking Ricciardi to task for not somehow foreseeing that a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.81 and a career WHIP of 1.510, who's had a history of arm trouble, missed more than half the previous season and will likely miss the entire season to come while making nearly $5 million, would become a Cy Young winner and playoff stud. Richard Griffin is an idiot.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 In hindsight, Ricciardi looks like an idiot, but in foresight, not so much.
the max Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 Chapter 29 in Richard Griffin's upcoming book, I Hate J.P. Ricciardi: That seventh inning "throw-pas" put the game in the hands of the former Jay, Carpenter, the '05 Cy Young award winner, but a man shooed out of Toronto by GM J.P. Ricciardi for not being tough enough, or in the same class of monetary compensation as other starters of similar age like Kevin Millwood, Freddie Garcia and Kerry Wood. ... The Jays' No. 1 draft pick in 1993, Carpenter pitched one season under the Ricciardi regime, falling out of favour and ending up having surgery on his right shoulder, not being offered a major league contract by the Jays. Carpenter signed with the Cards for guaranteed money, then mounted a fabulous comeback in '04 from his lost season going 15-5, with a 3.46 ERA, but was injured in early September and missed the post-season, including the World Series loss to the Red Sox. He wanted desperately to pitch in that World Series. To recap, Griffin is taking Ricciardi to task for not somehow foreseeing that a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.81 and a career WHIP of 1.510, who's had a history of arm trouble, missed more than half the previous season and will likely miss the entire season to come while making nearly $5 million, would become a Cy Young winner and playoff stud. Richard Griffin is an idiot. FJM tore Griffin apart last week for blaming Billy Beane for Ken Macha's firing. Funny stuff.
CanadianChris Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 Yeah, I saw that. I hope they start picking on him more often. He really deserves it.
The Man in Blak Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 To recap, Griffin is taking Ricciardi to task for not somehow foreseeing that a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.81 and a career WHIP of 1.510, who's had a history of arm trouble, missed more than half the previous season and will likely miss the entire season to come while making nearly $5 million, would become a Cy Young winner and playoff stud. Actually, this is possibly the only time that I'd ever agree with Richard Griffin. Even though Carpenter did have arm troubles in 2002, he was a league average pitcher with decent, though not spectacular peripherals, who looked to be putting things together in 2001. When a young player can hang in there at an average level of performance, that's usually a good indicator for his development, and Carpenter's best work with Toronto all came before he was 27. Though there are never any guarantees when you're dealing with a pitcher coming back from significant arm surgery, Carpenter's track record was still fair enough to warrant a flyer, especially from a team that has arguably been hurting for depth in the rotation behind Halladay for the last few years. Furthermore, the price was right - look at the salary numbers for Carpenter in St. Louis (from BRef): 2003 St. Louis Cardinals $300,000 2004 St. Louis Cardinals $300,000 2005 St. Louis Cardinals $2,000,000 2006 St. Louis Cardinals $5,000,000 Though they swallowed the cash for nothing in 2003, the Cardinals got a bonafide ace for league minimum money in 2004 and, due to their loyalty, were able to get an outstanding contract extension into 2007. Just to pick two examples, Carpenter has made less money in the last two seasons than Esteban Loaiza or Kris Benson (the ultimate "league average innings eater" contracts of the past two seasons) and has outperformed them by leaps and bounds. For Ricciardi, who came into Toronto stressing that he could bring success with a reduced payroll, letting Carpenter get away so cheaply is a bit of a blunder.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted October 25, 2006 Report Posted October 25, 2006 I think most general managers have stories about pitchers who got away. Billy Beane traded Jeremy Bonderman. Brian Sabean traded Francisco Liriano. Gerry Hunsiker couldn't find a spot for Johan Santana on his 40 man roster. It's notoriously hard to predict pitcher performance.
Precious Roy Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 Read in the Daily News today that the Yankees are picking up Sheffield's option with the intention of trading him, and apparently the market for him has been pretty strong.
The Man in Blak Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 I won't dispute that predicting future performance for pitchers is a much more dicey proposition than position players, but I think you're comparing apples with oranges here. With the pitchers you listed, the general managers only had minor league track record as an indicator of future progress and, as the axiom goes, There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect. Ricciardi had more certainty with Chris Carpenter, in my opinion. He could consider over 100 starts, through almost five seasons of work, for his evaluation. And, though there's no guarantees that he could have kept him at the league minimum (as Carpenter was making almost $3.5 million in his last season in Toronto), I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have negotiated some kind of an extension to maintain his rights through his rehab. One thing I'm curious about, though. Was it common place for teams to give out contracts that covered rehab time at the start of the contract? I know that the Yankees would do it later with Jon Lieber (and, to a lesser extent, with Dotel), but I can't think of a deal like Carpenter's occurring before the Cardinals offered it. Is there any historical precedent for Carpenter's original contract with St. Louis?
Guest NYankees Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 Read in the Daily News today that the Yankees are picking up Sheffield's option with the intention of trading him, and apparently the market for him has been pretty strong. They must be really afraid of him signing with the Red Sox.
Guest NYankees Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 The captain won the Hank Aaron award which is awarded to the leagues best hitter.
CanadianChris Posted October 26, 2006 Report Posted October 26, 2006 Ricciardi had more certainty with Chris Carpenter, in my opinion. He could consider over 100 starts, through almost five seasons of work, for his evaluation. And, though there's no guarantees that he could have kept him at the league minimum (as Carpenter was making almost $3.5 million in his last season in Toronto), I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have negotiated some kind of an extension to maintain his rights through his rehab. They offered him a minor-league deal with incentives ater the '02 season. He turned it down and declared free agency.
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