Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 OMG CROSSTOWN DEAL~ Cubs get: Neal Cotts White Sox get: David Aardsma and Carls Vasquez Not sure how to view this. On the one hand, the Cubs get a good lefty, even though they're already paying millions to Scott Eyre for that. On the other, Aardsma was excellent a lot of the time last year and had the makings of a closer. But then again, don't all young Cubs relievers? Except Cliff Bartosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I like Neal Cotts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 From what I've heard, Ted Lilly is basically gone from the Jays organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 In the least surprising news item of the day, Johan wins his second Cy Young with a unanimous vote. The voters got one right for once, although I still haven't figured out how he lost last year. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2664561 Also, A-Rod is saying that he won't exercise his out-clause that would void the last three years of his deal. I thought this would be a no-brainer for him. Get out of New York and make a little more sratch. Oh well, have fun getting booed for the next three years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I like Neal Cotts. I'm sad the White Sox traded him. He was a quality set up man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted November 16, 2006 The Giants are looking to sign Pierre and Carlos Lee. Is there going to be any room for Bonds? haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted November 16, 2006 The Giants are looking to sign Pierre and Carlos Lee. Is there going to be any room for Bonds? haha. So they're transitioning from overpaid 40-year-olds to overpaid 30-year-olds. The San Francisco Giants are the motherfucking worst. I hope they never have a winning season again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I hear ESPN radio is reporting that the Braves and Padres are "close" to a trade that would send Jake F'n Peavy to Atlanta in exchange for Marcus Giles, Horacio Ramirez and Jarrod Stalalalkadlkaslkjmacchia. Also I hear ESPN radio is reporting that Matsuzaka is close to a deal for 3 yr/45 million. Jeepers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I hear ESPN radio is reporting that the Braves and Padres are "close" to a trade that would send Jake F'n Peavy to Atlanta in exchange for Marcus Giles, Horacio Ramirez and Jarrod Stalalalkadlkaslkjmacchia. Also I hear ESPN radio is reporting that Matsuzaka is close to a deal for 3 yr/45 million. Jeepers! For some reason when they announced the Barfield trade, I told my wife, "Watch them trade Peavy or Greene to Atlanta for Giles..." Damn them for possibly proving me right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I thought the whole reason that they were pushing so hard for Marcus Giles was, in part, because of Brian Giles, but I also heard recently that they're thinking about moving him. In any event, nobody should EVER trade Jake Peavy...Hell, sign Todd Walker and stick him at second, but why on Earth would they trade Peavy? Marcus Giles is a decent 2nd baseman, coming off of an off year, but...for Jake Peavy? Seriously... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 From what I've heard, Ted Lilly is basically gone from the Jays organization. You're KIDDING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 In any event, nobody should EVER trade Jake Peavy...Hell, sign Todd Walker and stick him at second, but why on Earth would they trade Peavy? Marcus Giles is a decent 2nd baseman, coming off of an off year, but...for Jake Peavy? Seriously... Unless Minnesota has a brain fart and is willing to part with Johan Santana, I can't agree with you more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 Alrite, looks like ESPN radio is denying the truth in the forementioned Peavy/other guys deal. I read it on the Braves board, but now there's a link denying the validity of it. I still wouldn't rule out Kevin Towers making that deal, though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I hear ESPN radio is reporting that the Braves and Padres are "close" to a trade that would send Jake F'n Peavy to Atlanta in exchange for Marcus Giles, Horacio Ramirez and Jarrod Stalalalkadlkaslkjmacchia. Also I hear ESPN radio is reporting that Matsuzaka is close to a deal for 3 yr/45 million. Jeepers! I've heard both of those rumors debunked elsewhere, but with as crazy as this offseason is shaping up, you never really know. Read in a Philadelphia paper that Boston signed JD Drew to a four year, $48 million contract, but haven't found confirmation anywhere else. He's going to get a lot more money than that, I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 Not that it really matters, but I don't know how Wang finished ahead of Halladay in the Cy Young voting. Well, I do know, it was the wins, but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 riccardi should be fired. his team had more than enough fire power, they needed to concentrate on their pitching. maybe this means that vernon wells will be traded for pitching, but thats still an awful trade off for them. i understood when the a's gave thomas an incentive-laden contract, but to flatout pay gaurenteed money for thomas when they have so many other concerns is beyond preposturous. The Blue Jays were 7th in runs scored but 5th in runs allowed. Plus, they have a opening for a designated hitter, with Shea Hillenbrand gone. those stats are actually quite interesting after watching more than enough games, and reading the stats of games i didn't see. it seemed as though pitching was their achilles heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 The Os signed some nobody LHP from Detroit that Ive never heard of 3 years 12 million. whoo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 The Os signed some nobody LHP from Detroit that Ive never heard of 3 years 12 million. whoo! was shocked. he's a decent situational lefty who any team would love. but, boy, did he come at a steep price. detroit wanted to keep him badly but not at that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I read somewhere that someone (maybe Baltimore) offered Justin Speier a 4-year/$16 million deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I read somewhere that someone (maybe Baltimore) offered Justin Speier a 4-year/$16 million deal. Damnit! I really wanted him to close in Boston. I know that this is a crazy free agent market and we should expect anything, but multi-year deals for middle relief seems crazy to me. Peter Gammons mentioned that Boston might look into a six-man rotation next year so that they can work their starters a little harder when they do pitch. Might be an interesting way to circumvent the rising cost of mediocre relief pitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posada20 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 Not that it really matters, but I don't know how Wang finished ahead of Halladay in the Cy Young voting. Well, I do know, it was the wins, but still. Well that's how they vote, how do you think Bartalo Colon and Chris Carpenter won Cy Young Awards last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 Not that it really matters, but I don't know how Wang finished ahead of Halladay in the Cy Young voting. Well, I do know, it was the wins, but still. Well that's how they vote, how do you think Bartalo Colon and Chris Carpenter won Cy Young Awards last year? Exactly. It's also how Clemens won his seventh two years ago (in addition to how he was jobbed out of his eighth by Carpenter last year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I read somewhere that someone (maybe Baltimore) offered Justin Speier a 4-year/$16 million deal. Well, Ive at least heard of him. I doubt that makes him worth so much. also heard something about Benson/Gibbons for Vernon Wells..hmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 Not that it really matters, but I don't know how Wang finished ahead of Halladay in the Cy Young voting. Well, I do know, it was the wins, but still. Well that's how they vote, how do you think Bartalo Colon and Chris Carpenter won Cy Young Awards last year? Exactly. It's also how Clemens won his seventh two years ago (in addition to how he was jobbed out of his eighth by Carpenter last year). Hey now...if the voters only looked at wins, Roy O woulda won in 2004. Only 20 game winner in the NL. Quibbling between Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens winning the Cy Young is like uh...something. Is the lefty that Marvin's referencing Jaime Walker? I heard he got signed. The 'Stros were looking at him to compliment Trever Miller (who did an OUTSTANDING job last year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 That Peavy deal isn't bad. Saltalamacchia may be one of the top 10-15 prospects in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 Yeah, but....Jake Peavy...JAKE PEAVY. It would be shitty if they traded him today anyway, he's gone for the week with Roy Oswalt hunting in Illinois. They're BFF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 I read somewhere that someone (maybe Baltimore) offered Justin Speier a 4-year/$16 million deal. Well, Ive at least heard of him. I doubt that makes him worth so much. also heard something about Benson/Gibbons for Vernon Wells..hmm Fuck no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 Oh, I got caught up in the Fake Peavy rumor, and I forget to mention that according to the Houston Chronicle, the 'Stros have offered multi-year deals to both Carlos Lee and Alfonze Soriano...and they're talking to Woody Williams. Seems kinda early for the two top name hitter FAs to sign...and it's not likely that they'll both sign with Houston, but...if they do...boy howdy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 I read somewhere that someone (maybe Baltimore) offered Justin Speier a 4-year/$16 million deal. Well, Ive at least heard of him. I doubt that makes him worth so much. also heard something about Benson/Gibbons for Vernon Wells..hmm Fuck no. It would only be appropriate that Jay Gibbons go back to Toronto though. The hitch on the deal is Wells is a FA after next season and I doubt they'll be able to resign him. I really dont care about Gibbons, he can go..but Benson..they really should try and keep him despite his wishes not to want to stay.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 The Astros and Rockies are reportedly working on a deal that would send Brad Lidge and Chris Burke to Colorado for SP Jason Jennings. Given that they already have Brian Fuentes on staff, some are speculating that they are attempting to acquire Lidge to flip him to the Red Sox for some package revolving around Coco Crisp (who they've inexplicably have a hard-on for). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites