2006-07 MLB Offseason Thread

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Contrary to belief, we don't need a lineup 1-9 of roided sluggers or anything like that. I'll be fine with a defensive minded CF who can scoot around the bases.

 

Well, I don't know how you turned OBP-guy into roided slugger, but whatever. It's pointless to invest so much money at the heart of the order (Dye, Konerko and Thome) if there is no one getting on base in front of them. That's a dangerous middle of the lineup and it's probably not reaching its full potential. The White Sox are in a precarious position this offseason because a couple of good moves could win them the division again next year but a couple more poor moves and they could wind up fourth.

[vivalaultra 0]

Latest word is that the Taveras/Buchholz/Hirsh? for Garland deal fell through because Taylor Buchholz failed his physical. How the Hell does a guy that's not on the disabled list fail a physical? If he's been hiding an injury, that would explain his enormous dropoff last season. Perhaps a deal with Taveras/another Astros' pitching prospect besides Hirsh for Garland could happen.

[Precious Roy 0]

Jon Garland is an average starter, besides his 2005 year he's been consistently in the 4.5 era 1.35 whip range. I think he's the least desirable of the Sox starters. Buehrle is the one I'd want. Seems like a lot to give up for Garland, the Sox would have been fleecing the 'Stros in that deal, Jason Hirsh might be better than Garland within the next year or two.

 

I don't see how Tavares makes sense for the White Sox either unless they have a bigger deal in play for someone like Crawford or Baldelli. Putting Tavares and Podsednik at the top of the lineup gives them the same problem they had last year. I also don't understand why the team has soured on Brian Anderson so quickly. For years all anyone could talk about was how he was going to take over centerfield for them, and after one year struggling at the plate they already want to get rid of the guy?

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I was misinformed with my earlier Gil Meche post. He's actually getting 5 years/$55 million! Yes, folks, the luster has officially worn off of Dayton Moore. Whatever he learned from Schuerholz was lost during the transport to KC.

[Precious Roy 0]

The Royals finally decide to spend big money and they use it on Gil Meche?!!? Unbelievable...

[Guest Smues]

Hey he's only gotta win 10 games during the length of the contract to out perform Darren Dreifort's 5/55 contract. You can do it Gil!

[Guest "Go, Mordecai!"]

Contrary to belief, we don't need a lineup 1-9 of roided sluggers or anything like that. I'll be fine with a defensive minded CF who can scoot around the bases.

I agree with that, but come on, Brian Anderson was hitting .192.

 

Oh, and Jim Hendry had some angioplasty done. Just goes to show you, the Cubs will break your heart.

 

Congratulations to KC for signing Gilgamesh.

Edited December 7, 2006 by "Go, Mordecai!"

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Why are the Yankees flirting with Richie Sexson? He's a decent enough player, but I don't think he adds a whole lot to that team, especially with his across the board declining numbers (some of which was probably Safeco). I guess it would all depend on the price they got him at, but I would think they'd be better served trying to upgrade the rotation.

[Guest "Go, Mordecai!"]

Why are the Yankees flirting with Richie Sexson?

Are they saying "more like Richie Sexin'?"

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Contrary to belief, we don't need a lineup 1-9 of roided sluggers or anything like that. I'll be fine with a defensive minded CF who can scoot around the bases.

I agree with that, but come on, Brian Anderson was hitting .192.

 

Let's say you theoretically started a CF with a -11.3 VORP. We'll call him B. Anderson. Then you theoretically started a LF with a -9.9 VORP. We'll call him Scott P. Now let's say you compounded the problem by theoretically batting one of them first. That would theoretically cost you 4-5 wins. Now lets say, theoretically, that your team finished five games out of the playoffs. That'd probably make me think about upgrading. Theoretically.

 

I'm just sayin'.

[devo 0]

Can anyone tell me if I should be upset that the Mets lost Jesus Flores to the Nationals in the Rule V draft? At one point the guy looked like the organization's next franchise catcher, but I really think his potential became limited after struggling at a very low level in the minor leagues and breaking his hand. Mets fans on other sites appear to be in a tizzy about losing him, but I don't see what the big deal is.

 

Edit: Also, viva was right about Buchholz failing his physical.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writ...ay.scoop/1.html

Edited December 7, 2006 by El Luchadore Magnifico

[Precious Roy 0]

Why are the Yankees flirting with Richie Sexson? He's a decent enough player, but I don't think he adds a whole lot to that team, especially with his across the board declining numbers (some of which was probably Safeco). I guess it would all depend on the price they got him at, but I would think they'd be better served trying to upgrade the rotation.

 

Because they're in the market for a fulltime right handed 1B and Sexson is better than Shea Hillenbrand. He's an above average defensive player who puts up an OPS around .900 every year. He'd be a a nice addition for the Yankees, but I don't think there's much to the rumour, which seems to be Pavano + a prospect going to Seattle. I think it's more likely we bring in someone like Hillenbrand or go into the season with a Phillips/scrap heap veteran platoon.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I'm all for letting go of Garcia, Garland and Vasquez, but I'm pissed Kenny is considering letting Buehrle go.

[vivalaultra 0]

The White Sox/'Stros thing is getting dumb. After the report on SI.com that Buchholz had failed a physical, the Houston Chronicle contacted him and he's said that he hasn't taken a physical in the last year and a half. Kenny Williams is quoted as saying that he's "disturbed" about how the rumored deal leaked before being finalized. According to most sources, the deal is more dead than alive, but there's still a small chance that something materializes. Other sources in Houston are under the impression that the whole deal was a ploy on the Astros' part to force the hand of Pettitte. I, however, would like to think that the Astros' front office is not waiting with their collective thumb up their collective ass for Rog and Andy to swoop in on winged feet and save them. I say, if Andy's NYC mistress is better in the sack than his wife, he should go to New York, and if the Astros have to opportunity to trade for a Jon Garland or a Jake Peavy or a Dontrelle Willis, they should jump on that shit. Even if Andy and Roger come back to Houston, it's just gonna be the same thing next offseason. Nut up or shut up, mang. Houston can't compete with New York on a monetary level, but if Andy's genuine about wanting to spend time with his family and with his sick father, he'll accept a slightly smaller deal to stay in Houston.

 

Oh, and the Astros might've made a good deal in the Rule V draft today. They got some name Holdzkom from the Cubs. His stats look impressive.

[Brett Favre 0]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

and if the Astros have to opportunity to trade for a Jon Garland or a Jake Peavy or a Dontrelle Willis, they should jump on that shit.

 

Jon Garland is nowhere on Peavy or Willis's lev-... actually, yeah do anything you can do to get Garland. Offer Berkman. That's the ticket.

[the max 0]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

 

You give us your delicious cheeseburger and we'll give you shit on a bun! Deal?

[Brett Favre 0]

Sexson is more like a cheesburger that fell on the floor and was stepped on.

[Guest Posada20]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

 

You give us your delicious cheeseburger and we'll give you shit on a bun! Deal?

 

So who is the shit on the bun? They both are terrible, only thing positive about Sexson is that he played.

[Guest Smues]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

 

You give us your delicious cheeseburger and we'll give you shit on a bun! Deal?

 

So who is the shit on the bun? They both are terrible, only thing positive about Sexson is that he played.

 

In what world does Richie Sexson qualify as terrible?

[Guest Posada20]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

 

You give us your delicious cheeseburger and we'll give you shit on a bun! Deal?

 

So who is the shit on the bun? They both are terrible, only thing positive about Sexson is that he played.

 

In what world does Richie Sexson qualify as terrible?

 

I guess I don't like him or his strikeouts, he's more like average or a little above.

[Guest Smues]

The Soriano for Rameriz deal appears to be offical now. I won't be surprised if Soriano's arm explodes in May, but at the moment I'm happy with that deal. Our bullpen has just been pathetic the last couple of years.

[vivalaultra 0]

and if the Astros have to opportunity to trade for a Jon Garland or a Jake Peavy or a Dontrelle Willis, they should jump on that shit.

 

Jon Garland is nowhere on Peavy or Willis's lev-... actually, yeah do anything you can do to get Garland. Offer Berkman. That's the ticket.

 

If it comes down to offering Willy Taveras/Buchholz to get Jon Garland in the rotation or waiting on Pettitte and starting Wandy Rodriguez, jump on Garland. But, yeah...Garland's nowhere near Peavy or Willis. I'd venture to say that Hirsh will be better by 2008 than Garland. I'd be ok with throwing Hirsh into a Peavy or Willis deal, but not Garland.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

The Yankees said they would only take Sexson if the Mariners took Pavano, and the Mariners said no, so no trade.

 

You give us your delicious cheeseburger and we'll give you shit on a bun! Deal?

 

So who is the shit on the bun? They both are terrible, only thing positive about Sexson is that he played.

 

In what world does Richie Sexson qualify as terrible?

 

I don't think Sexson can be called terrible, but he appears to be on the fast train to mediocrity. He was about one win better than Kevin Youkilis last year, who was described as garbage on this board a couple of days back. His contract is a little steep seeing that you can find comparable players at a fraction of the cost. He still has some pop in his bat, but I'm not really sure that's a need for the Yankees.

[Brett Favre 0]

He's not bad defensively. We're looking for a righty bat at 1st.

[Bruiser Chong 0]

The Royals' quest for a fourth-place finish continues, as they ink Octavio Dotel to a one-year, $5 million deal. I know it's tough for me to speak not being in the position, but I think it'd be tough to play for such a terrible team, even considering the money.

[CanadianChris 0]

The Royals' quest for a fourth-place finish continues, as they ink Octavio Dotel to a one-year, $5 million deal. I know it's tough for me to speak not being in the position, but I think it'd be tough to play for such a terrible team, even considering the money.

Which team in that division are they expecting to leapfrog?

 

I cannot imaging ever wanting to sign with the Royals. I know it's a vicious circle, but that team has no chance to win.

[the max 0]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...6&fext=.jsp

[Bruiser Chong 0]

I doubt they leapfrog anyone. I wouldn't want to sign with them in a weak division, but the way things are shaping up, the other four teams in that division have the groundwork laid to be good/great for years to come.

[CanadianChris 0]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...6&fext=.jsp

 

Figures. It was clear no one else wanted to sign him.