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It's sad to think that the best wrestling games were made 7-8 years ago.

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I bought WCW vs The World for the PSX the week it was released. The main reason I got the game was because I could play as crow-Sting, and he even had the Scorpion Deathdrop, which 10 years ago, I thought was the most devastating, innovative move I had ever seen. I always wondered why WCW had all these wrestlers under contract, but only put 12 of them in the game, and 50+ nobodies (even though most of them were based on actual wrestlers).

 

You had Billy Gaijin who was supposed to be Scott Norton, who was working for WCW at the time, so why he wasn't put in the game under his own name is beyond me. Then you had David Harley who was supposed to be Sabu. My favorite though was Turk. He was the absolute bringer of death in the game. He looked like Dynamite Kid but had a Vader-esque moveset. So you had this little guy throwing out chokeslams, powerbombs, and moonsaults.

 

Another thing that always puzzled me about what the game makers were smoking upon making the game was why the Giant had a fro. His character profile showed Giant (Big Show) but his in-game character looked like 1970's Andre with a moustache.

 

The character models were kind of ugly, but for a 1997 game, I guess it can be forgiven.

 

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WCW vrs the World wasn't that bad of a game. It pretty much beat any game on the playstation in terms of wrestling. Look at the shitty games Akklame put out as well as midway.

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Revenge was by far the best WCW game, but Mayhem could be sorta fun if you were willing to play by it's flow and it's like a buck now if someone wanted to give it a try

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WCW vs the World was the first PSX game I ever bought...got it the same day I bought my Playstation console.

 

It was a fun game, and pretty innovative for its time, but I doubt it holds up today....kind of like most of the WWF games from that era.

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Was WCW vs the World based on any games in Japan like the N64 wrestling games were? Or perhaps the scene in Japan was all Asmik was familiar with at the time. That's the only way I could explain why there were so little actual WCW guys or things like Giant with a fro.

 

I don't know. I've never actually played it and always wanted to, which is why I've searched used stores for decent, good-looking copies and looked for ROMs to no avail. I'll probably have to go eBay at this rate.

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WCW vs. the World was "based" on Virtual Pro Wrestling.

 

Actually, it was about the only time Asmik/THQ converted over one of the Japanese games.

 

For Virtual Pro Wrestling 64 and Virtual Pro Wrestling 2, the US games came first, and the Japanese games were enhanced versions.

 

VPW64 was an enhanced WCW vs. nWo. VPW2 was based on the engine for Wrestlemania 2000, but was a vastly different game.

 

Giant has a huge fro in WCW vs. the World because...he's really supposed to be Andre.

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Yep...The Giant was definitely Andre. I thought it was lame that they couldn't at least put a different head on him in the game to make it look a little more like Paul Wight.

 

Also, I remember Disco Inferno being in the game...or, at least his face was on the select screen, but I think he was actually Ken Shamrock in the game.

 

For the time, the game engine was pretty good...decent controls, and a wide move set for most guys. Too bad you could only do 1-on-1 matches. No tag team matches or gimmick matches of any kind.

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Yep...The Giant was definitely Andre. I thought it was lame that they couldn't at least put a different head on him in the game to make it look a little more like Paul Wight.

 

Also, I remember Disco Inferno being in the game...or, at least his face was on the select screen, but I think he was actually Ken Shamrock in the game.

 

For the time, the game engine was pretty good...decent controls, and a wide move set for most guys. Too bad you could only do 1-on-1 matches. No tag team matches or gimmick matches of any kind.

I just picked it up today for $2 at EB and I was stunned there were no tag matches

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Disco wasn't in WCW vs. the World. There was a knockoff of Shamrock called Sherlock though.

 

Full roster is on Gamefaqs, along with the true identities (click on Information Guide).

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/game/199287.html

 

Yeah, Sherlock, that's who I was thinking of. But, I'm almost positive it was Disco's face on the select screen.

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I remember in the WWF N64 games you could make some really ridiculous game intros occur by changing the default wrestlers.

 

 

You are talking about Thq video games right? I am pretty sure you could do that in Revenge as well.

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Could anyone understand what it was that Giant said during the opening cinema of WCW/nWo World Tour? All I could ever get was "I am sick and tired of you and the nWo..." then he screamed something that made zero sense. I'm glad that the move animations got better between the World Tour and Revenge.

 

World Tour:

DDP's Diamond Cutter looked more like a super-slow RKO

The Outsiders Edge was a sit-out crucifix powerbomb

The Jacknife Powerbomb was the basic powerbomb that was assigned to nearly every other heavyweight in the game.

Wrath being pretty overpowered

 

Revenge:

Perfectly animated Diamond Cutter, Outsiders Edge, and Jacknife

TOP ROPE OUTSIDERS EDGE!

Stevie Ray's Slapjack had sick impact, and the Scorpion Deathdrop was animated perfectly.

Getting to play as Sting with the trenchcoat

The Jackhammer being animated correctly, which is something even Raw 2 for the X-Box couldn't get right.

Executioner, Dake Ken, and Han Zo Moon being the near-unstoppable bringers of death.

Dake Ken being the only character who could pull a Gallagher(sp?)-esque Sledgehammer from the crowd for a weapon.

Unlocking Wrath with the Gameshark

 

Also, I wish the later WWF games for the 64 would've retained the top rope Outsiders Edge, and Slapjack from Revenge.

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I could never understand why anything would be taken away from a later version of a game. For instance if you are using the same game engine then later releases should have MORE on top of what the prior games already featured.

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I also liked how one of the Japanese wrestlers had the grapple move when someone was on the apron was to powerbomb the opponent onto the floor. Great to eliminate yourself from the match.

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I always thought it was cool how the wrestler's attire would change on the intro as well if you changed them from the edit feature.

 

I remember being amazed when I heard that. I wanted to make all these guys in the Wolfpac, so I had like Meng and Davey Boy Smith wearing Red and Black nWo shirts... yikes...

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I always thought it was cool how the wrestler's attire would change on the intro as well if you changed them from the edit feature.

 

I remember being amazed when I heard that. I wanted to make all these guys in the Wolfpac, so I had like Meng and Davey Boy Smith wearing Red and Black nWo shirts... yikes...

 

I changed Hogan's attire back to his classic red and yellow and put in Goldberg as the new "leader" of nWo black and white. Beat that for 'dorkish'.

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I always thought it was cool how the wrestler's attire would change on the intro as well if you changed them from the edit feature.

 

I remember being amazed when I heard that. I wanted to make all these guys in the Wolfpac, so I had like Meng and Davey Boy Smith wearing Red and Black nWo shirts... yikes...

 

I changed Hogan's attire back to his classic red and yellow and put in Goldberg as the new "leader" of nWo black and white. Beat that for 'dorkish'.

 

I think I can.

 

My friends and I took Revenge and then later No Mercy and would create our own guys or just edit the wrestlers and create the tournaments with 16 people. Put it all on cpu/cpu then began to record it all on the VCR. After it was all said and done, we'd rewind and do actual play by play during the matches.

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I ran my own feds on both WCW vs. NWO World Tour and WCW vs. NWO Revenge. I already described my adventures on the WCW vs. NWO World Tour fed I had in another thread a long time ago but in Revenge I had some fun times.

 

I used the 40-man Battle Royal feature to have my own World War III tournament every year which only sucked b/c I couldn't control what order/guys would be in the match (something No Mercy fixed). Also, I missed how I couldn't do tag team elimination matches in Revenge like World Tour. Anyway, I had 12 big shows a year with me giving slogans to my Souled Out pay-per-views (which I had in January, April, August, and November-just called this one World War III), had some Clash of the Champions shows where I stuck with the Nitro arena (had those in March, May, and September), had two SuperBrawls with one in February and another in June which would be where I would have a Lethal Lottery tournament, and then the typical Bash at the Beach, Halloween Havoc, and Starrcade shows. Also, I did four Monday Nitros in a given month with 5-6 matches a show with the TV and Cruserweight titles being constantly defended.

 

I did about three years of this fed before WM 2000 came out, but my major storyline centered on me building a "Corporate Team" with Bret Hart, the Giant, Sting, Scott Hall, Lex Luger, and that Black Ninja guy (can't remember his name that well) and how they took over WCW. The resistance was challenged by Randy Savage, Goldberg, the Steiner Brothers, Kevin Nash, and Rey Mysterio. My second annual Starrcade saw the feud pick up where in the undercard Luger beat Nash after interference, Sting & Hall became the tag champs over the Steiner Brothers, Goldberg beat the Giant, and in the main event Randy Savage dethroned the 7 month World title reign of Bret Hart.

 

I continued the feud by having Hulk Hogan arrive in the yellow trunks and aid Savage as he fought off the Giant, Sting, Hall, Ninja, and Luger in successive pay-per-view events and then had Raven show up as the new corporate team member and challenge Savage in a no-DQ match at the June edition of SuperBrawl for the title. After 10+ minutes Raven smashed Savage with a chair and DDT'd him and won the title thereby prompting a feud with Hogan (who won the Lethal Lottery tournament after pinning Ultimo Dragon...yea sounds weird but the Dragon was on fire during this tournament and I couldn't beat him) that culminated in Hogan defeating Raven in a career vs. title/ending of the corporation match and thereby blowing off that feud for good.

 

All in all, it was one of my more memorable storylines that I put together aside from the whole Luger-Glacier feud I had going in my World Tour game.

 

Looking back on it I really put a lot of miles into those games and even though they cost me like $50 I sure got my value out of them moreso than the WWF games.

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I ran my own feds on both WCW vs. NWO World Tour and WCW vs. NWO Revenge. I already described my adventures on the WCW vs. NWO World Tour fed I had in another thread a long time ago but in Revenge I had some fun times.

 

I used the 40-man Battle Royal feature to have my own World War III tournament every year which only sucked b/c I couldn't control what order/guys would be in the match (something No Mercy fixed). Also, I missed how I couldn't do tag team elimination matches in Revenge like World Tour. Anyway, I had 12 big shows a year with me giving slogans to my Souled Out pay-per-views (which I had in January, April, August, and November-just called this one World War III), had some Clash of the Champions shows where I stuck with the Nitro arena (had those in March, May, and September), had two SuperBrawls with one in February and another in June which would be where I would have a Lethal Lottery tournament, and then the typical Bash at the Beach, Halloween Havoc, and Starrcade shows. Also, I did four Monday Nitros in a given month with 5-6 matches a show with the TV and Cruserweight titles being constantly defended.

 

I did about three years of this fed before WM 2000 came out, but my major storyline centered on me building a "Corporate Team" with Bret Hart, the Giant, Sting, Scott Hall, Lex Luger, and that Black Ninja guy (can't remember his name that well) and how they took over WCW. The resistance was challenged by Randy Savage, Goldberg, the Steiner Brothers, Kevin Nash, and Rey Mysterio. My second annual Starrcade saw the feud pick up where in the undercard Luger beat Nash after interference, Sting & Hall became the tag champs over the Steiner Brothers, Goldberg beat the Giant, and in the main event Randy Savage dethroned the 7 month World title reign of Bret Hart.

 

I continued the feud by having Hulk Hogan arrive in the yellow trunks and aid Savage as he fought off the Giant, Sting, Hall, Ninja, and Luger in successive pay-per-view events and then had Raven show up as the new corporate team member and challenge Savage in a no-DQ match at the June edition of SuperBrawl for the title. After 10+ minutes Raven smashed Savage with a chair and DDT'd him and won the title thereby prompting a feud with Hogan (who won the Lethal Lottery tournament after pinning Ultimo Dragon...yea sounds weird but the Dragon was on fire during this tournament and I couldn't beat him) that culminated in Hogan defeating Raven in a career vs. title/ending of the corporation match and thereby blowing off that feud for good.

 

All in all, it was one of my more memorable storylines that I put together aside from the whole Luger-Glacier feud I had going in my World Tour game.

 

Looking back on it I really put a lot of miles into those games and even though they cost me like $50 I sure got my value out of them moreso than the WWF games.

 

I've done that with the PS2 SmackDown games already. I usually use CAWs of my friends, but used real wrestlers for SDSYM. Goldust defeated Triple H for the Undisputed Title at King of the Ring. And was champion for five months. That is awesome.

 

Also, the best SD engine for simming shows is here comes the pain, hands down.

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I think my most memorable moment out of all these games was taking Shawn Michaels through the story mode of Wrestlemania 2000, and culminating with the big steel cage title match against the reigning WWF Champion:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mideon!

 

Kind of weird how the computer would have basically anyone beat the champion at any given time.

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Could anyone understand what it was that Giant said during the opening cinema of WCW/nWo World Tour? All I could ever get was "I am sick and tired of you and the nWo..." then he screamed something that made zero sense. I'm glad that the move animations got better between the World Tour and Revenge.

 

I always thought it was pretty obvious. I always heard, "I've had enough.. with the nWo... the fight is on!"

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Could anyone understand what it was that Giant said during the opening cinema of WCW/nWo World Tour? All I could ever get was "I am sick and tired of you and the nWo..." then he screamed something that made zero sense. I'm glad that the move animations got better between the World Tour and Revenge.

 

I always thought it was pretty obvious. I always heard, "I've had enough.. with the nWo... the fight is on!"

 

That's the part I could never understand. Sorry I wasn't clearer before. Thanks for the info!

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