snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 We have Ingle Martin too. The smart thing to do would have been to say 'fuck you' to the wishes of the fans (who own the team), the GM, the head coach, and Brett's teammates so we can get moving on the Rodgers era. If he gets hurt, again, already, during one half, there's the future legend Ingle Martin in the wings. After a a 4-0 December with a young team that will only be better next year, the best bet is to dump the experienced qb in favor of rebuilding all over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 maybe I'm just not as discriminating as naiwf. You actually watch NFL games. That makes you dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 We agree, a 70.9 QB rating with a -9 (20/29) TD/INT ratio is a bad season. This was easily his worst season statistically speaking. We disagree here because a 72.7 QB rating (good for 6th WORST in the league) with an even (18/18) TD/INT ratio is NOT a good season. It's strikingly mediocre, and rates as his 3rd worst season by the numbers. Lowest completion %, 2nd lowest YPA, one of the 4 seasons where he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Nah, saying he had a pretty obvious comeback season that showed he can still play well in a system he's familiar with while surrounded by a team that respects him/wants to play with him/wants to win for & with him is a concept far too dificult to grasp. Mindless hyperbole is the way to go here. Are you serious? 72.7 from 70.9 is a fucking comeback season?! This is reaching "8 points is a blowout" levels of idiocy. And seriously Czech- why do you have to be so dramatic to make your point? Favre isn't going to be "unceremoniously fired." He could simply bow out after another one of his tearful goodbyes and hang it up before he tarnishes his legacy. And the Belichick/secretary bit is getting really old. We get it. You don't like him b/c he allegedly bounced some guys wife. Enough already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Guys, Brett Favre's passes cure AIDS. Yeah, Czech, why so dramatic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Well, he'd have to be unceremoniously fired since he keeps choosing to come back. He obviously still wants to play, and the organization feels he can add to the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 There just hicks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 The Dolphins thought Culpepper could add to their team, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 4, 2007 There just hicks! Well, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Enough with the Midwestern circle jerk already. No one said Favre is killing the team. He IS the Packers' best QB at this time. He IS also however hanging on too long. It'll be 3 years at the end of this season and he may Roger Clemens us again with the "will he or won't he" bullshit into the next decade. As far as Eli Manning not being terrible, just answer this simple question. If cap hits weren't an issue how many teams would trade for him and make him their #1 in the entire league? Maybe 3 or 4 of the bottom feeders at best. He can't do anything under pressure, isn't accurate and locks into Plax on every 3rd and long. He has a great weapon at TE and hardly even looks his way throughout the course of the game, doesn't understand the concept of a checkdown and singlehandedly costs us at least 3 or 4 games per year with terrible decisions in the 4th quarter. The only 2 starting caliber guys in the league I think are worse than him are Plummer and Harrington and even Joey showed some flashes this year. That's the definition of a terrible QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 There just hicks! Well, thats it. Season over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 The women and cows of Wisconsin brace for next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Don't leave the children out of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 4, 2007 The women and cows of Wisconsin brace for next season What's the difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 Milk quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted February 4, 2007 The above Favre argument doesn't include the fact he's had a shit running game behind him, and his performance goes with how well his runinng game goes. His INT's go up (and thus his QB rating goes down- but he has an 85 career QB rating, so I mean, it's not like he gets in to the HOF or is defined as a good or bad QB based on that) when he has to do more by himself. We all know 2005 was his worst season, and it was recent, yes. His second worst is this past season (playing with the youngest team in the league and an inconsistent running game) and 1993, his first season as a starter. You know what his worst season was statistically after that? 1999, when Favre had just come off 3 MVP seasons and Mike Holmgren and Reggie White leaving.. plus Dorsey Levens, the Packers' only consistent running threat broke his leg and never recovered. It wasn't until Ahman Green emerged in 2001-2004 that his numbers went up again.. and once Green went down, so did Favre. In the mid-90's, Green Bay had an excellent running back by committee system going and Favre could work with whoever was there in the backfield. I think they're trying to re-establish that now with Vernand Morency, but I've suggested repeatedly in the draft thread that Green Bay needs a stud at running back, stat. Without one, Favre can't be consistent- his poor play against those good defenses came as a result of poor performances by the running game, outside of the Week One aberration where Green rushed for over 100 yards despite getting shut out. His accuracy is even a bit worse than it has been throughout his career, but he makes the right decisions, has one of the best arm strengths in the league, and is the de facto legendary leader that the guys will automatically trust. He has never blown a game in a Grossmanesque fashion for quite some time. I think next year he'll definitely have a better year, but they REALLY need a strong running game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2007 If you know that Favre needs a good running game to succeed, and you don't have a good running game, then why bring him back? Do they have that much faith that they'll be able to turn it around? A QB who cannot be consistently good without a running game is not helpful. Nobody denies that he can still throw the ball, but I think you hit on it- can he be consistently good enough to win? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think he can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grossman=Fag Report post Posted February 5, 2007 Hey Houston, still want to trade Carr? I've got a hell of a deal for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 I don't think you could trade Grossman for a David Carr rookie card at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Oedipus Rex Report post Posted February 5, 2007 From postgame coverage on 780: "You know, we haven't seen it in games this year, but Kyle Orton has really improved a lot this season, and he may challenge for the job." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grossman=Fag Report post Posted February 5, 2007 I don't think you could trade Grossman for a David Carr rookie card at this point. Draft pick? Grossman should be made into glue. I'd trade him for Joey Harrington right now, and I hate his ass somethin' fierce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 "I'll trade you my Rex Grossman for Barbaro." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 It's probably a dead heat between Harrison and Tim Brown for #2 all time. Both have great regular season numbers but both really haven't done all that much in the postseason. We all know who the undisputed #1 all-time WR is. Beyond that leaves alot of room for debate...Brown, Harrison, Irvin, Largent, Monk, etc...what's everyone's top 5 or so? Where should Don Hutson rank? He practically invented the position & his records stood for decades but have obviously been dwarfed in the past couple decades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 Anybody else see that Green Bay may make a run for Randy Moss? My all time top 5 WR 1.) Jerry Rice 2.) Steve Largent 3.) Don Hutson 4.) Cris Carter 5.) Tim Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 What's this about Moss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 What's this about Moss? There are rumors all over that the Green Bay Packers are looking into trading for Randy Moss now that the asking price has dropped significantly. I don't quite understand it. WR is one of the few positions where the Packers don't need any help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 I dont know. I think we could use another really good receiver to compliment Driver. We have Ferguson & Jennings, with a couple other guys that showed promise last season...but it seems like for a few years in a row now that at least one has gone down to injury. Walker in '05, Ferguson, Jennings for several games last year...another good pair of hands would be nice. Personally I'd much rather go for Ted Ginn in the draft than Randy Moss. Andre Rison & Terry Glenn have both enjoyed good comebacks as Green Bay receivers in the last decade but Moss would just seem kinda weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 Ginn probably isn't going to be there when Green Bay drafts, and their focus should probably be on a RB anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2007 Ginn probably isn't going to be there when Green Bay drafts, and their focus should probably be on a RB anyways. I think Ginn would be a waste of Green Bay's draft pick even if he was there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
