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Gone Baby Gone and American Gangster should have gotten more love for sure, but whatever. I expected more for 310 to Yuma as well.

 

Has anyone seen Michael Clayton by the way? I've heard its good, but it seems like it got an overabundance of nods here. I guess they're re-releasing it this weekend, too.

 

Heading to see Atonement and There Will Be Blood this week, ironically enough.

 

 

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Okay I'm not going to bother predicting all the categories here but I'll go with the main categories.

 

Best picture: Juno. It got nominated, which I wondered about. I say it wins because it stands out from the competition here, which is full of ultra serious dramas that are mostly bleak. I think Sweeney Todd should have been nominated over either Atonement or Michael Clayton.

 

Best actor: Daniel Day-Lewis. This is the easiest thing to predict in the entire race. Since I've got TWBB losing best picture they'll throw Day-Lewis a bone and give him the oscar.

 

Best actress: Julie Christie. I have no idea about this really. Kind of a whatever field.

 

Best supporting actor: Javier Bardem. I personally think there's others in this particular field that had tougher roles (Bardem basically kills a bunch of people and acts menacing), but they gotta give something to NCFOM.

 

Best supporting actress: Amy Ryan. I think Gone Baby Gone should have gotten more nods, but this is the one category where I feel fairly certain.

 

Best director: Paul Thomas Anderson. I'm not really sure about this, but I don't think the Academy has ever been too Coen friendly. So I'll take Anderson.

 

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Ruby Dee for Supporting Actress is one of the worst nominations in a long, long time. Was on screen for about 10 minutes total and didn't do anything in that time worthy of a nod.

 

And Josh Brolin got F'd in the A.

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Entertainment Weekly said she might get nominated, and I couldn't remember anything she did except yell at Denzel Washington. Jennifer Garner got screwed on that one.

 

I also thought Javier Bardem was the lead actor in No Country, not supporting. Were Brolin and Jones considered the leads then?

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Ruby Dee was a terrible nomination. It's not that she was bad but her part was really insignificant. If you're going to nominate someone from American Gangster, why not Denzel Washington? I mean surely he wouldn't be any worse of a nomination than Tommy Lee Jones for In The Valley of Elah (A movie I completely forgot about until he was nominated this morning)

 

 

And I thought No Country for Old Men was sort of an ensemble movie. Bardem, Lee Jones, and Brolin all had around the same amount of screentime)

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In Jones' defence, I heard he was fantastic in In the Valley of Elah. I didn't think he'd be nominated just because of vote splitting with No Country, and because no one saw the movie.

 

Cate Blanchett getting nominated shows how weak the Best Actress category is. I didn't see Elizabeth, so I might be totally off-base, but everything I heard was that it was terrible.

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The Blanchett Best Actress nod is a real headscratcher too. I mean everybody hated that movie and she already has a nod for Best Supporting Actress (Which IMO, she deserves to win. Great performance). I swear they pick one or two of the Best Actress nominees a year out of a hat.

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Not really, mole.

 

American Gangster was released November 2nd.

 

Michael Clayton, nominated in numerous categories, was released in October. Last year's Best Picture winner, the Departed, was released in October.

 

3 of the 5 Best Actor nominees were in movies released before American Gangster

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Here are the 59 songs eligible for best song:

 

“Do You Feel Me” from “American Gangster”

“At the Edge of the World” from “Arctic Tale”

“Someday” from “August Rush”

“This Time” from “August Rush”

“Raise It Up” from “August Rush”

“Break” from “August Rush”

“Nothing’s There” from “Badland”

“The Devil’s Lonely Fire” from “Badland”

“A Hero Comes Home” from “Beowulf”

“The Stars of Orion” from “Berkeley”

“Say” from “The Bucket List”

“To Be Surprised” from “Dan in Real Life”

“My Hands Are Shaking” from “Dan in Real Life”

“I’ll Be OK” from “Dan in Real Life”

“December Boys” from “December Boys”

“So Close” from “Enchanted”

“That’s How You Know” from “Enchanted”

“Happy Working Song” from “Enchanted”

“Atkozott Egy Elet” from “56 Drops of Blood”

“O, Atyam!” from “56 Drops of Blood”

“Eleg!” from “56 Drops of Blood”

“A Dream” from “Freedom Writers”

“Lyra” from “The Golden Compass”

“Good Luck Chuck” from “Good Luck Chuck”

“Shut Me Out” from “Good Luck Chuck”

“I Was Zapped by the Lucky Super Rainbow” from “Good Luck Chuck”

“Grace Is Gone” from “Grace Is Gone”

“Lullabye for Wyatt” from “Grace Is Gone”

“Come So Far (Got So Far to Go)” from “Hairspray”

“The Tale of the Horny Frog” from “The Heartbreak Kid”

“China Doll” from “Honeydripper”

“It Will Stay With Us” from “The Hottest State”

“Never See You” from “The Hottest State”

“Society” from “Into the Wild”

“Guaranteed” from “Into the Wild”

“Rise” from “Into the Wild”

“First Amendment Blues” from “Larry Flynt: The Right To Be Left Alone”

“Hello (I Love You)” from “The Last Mimzy”

“Despedida” from “Love in the Time of Cholera”

“Huck’s Tune” from “Lucky You”

“Little Wonders” from “Meet the Robinsons”

“Another Believer” from “Meet the Robinsons”

“Way Back into Love” from “Music and Lyrics”

“PoP! Goes My Heart” from “Music and Lyrics”

“Ordinary People” from “Music Within”

“Pretty Much Amazing” from “Nancy Drew”

“Falling Slowly” from “Once”

“If You Want Me” from “Once”

“Le Festin” from “Ratatouille”

“Land of Quiet Poems” from “Resurrecting the Champ”

“Love Will Still Be There” from “September Dawn”

“Royal Pain” from “Shrek the Third”

“Rule the World” from “Stardust”

“Before It’s Too Late (Sam and Mikaela’s Theme)” from “Transformers”

“Baby Don’t You Cry” from “Waitress”

“Beautiful Ride” from “Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story”

“Walk Hard” from “Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story”

“Let’s Duet” from “Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story”

“Back Where You Belong” from “The Water Horse”

 

 

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Best Picture: I've got no problem with any movie nominated, they were all excellant, but for some reason I think NCFOM gets fucked, and either Atonement or Michael Clayton wins.

 

Lead Actor:I really want Viggo to win, but he won't...this is Daniel Day-Lewis' oscar to lose...I would've put James McAvoy or James Brolin in place of Tommy Lee Jones. And did noone see Rescue Dawn? Give some love to Batman....

 

Lead Actress: Elizabeth was AWFUL! Cate Blanchett doesn't deserve to be here, Kiera Knightley or Angelina Jolie shouldve gotten the nomination. Ellen Page should win it.

 

Supporting Actor: Javier Bardem is going to win, but honestly, I think he was overated. Casey Affleck was great in Jesse James, and Tom Wilkinson was the best part of Michael Clayton. And where is the Ben Foster love? Come on...

 

Supporting Actress: Amy Ryan was great in GBG, and should win it, but I see Cate getting it. WTF is Ruby Dee nominated for? If you want to give someone with limited time, Vanessa Redgrave gave us 7 minutes of utter heartbreak that outdoes Denzel's mama yelling at him. Jennifer Garner should've been recognized for her role in Juno.

 

Best Director: If NFOM gets screwed in Best Picture, The Coens win it here. Werner Herzog and David Chronenberg should've been nominated.

 

Original Script: Juno wins it, but Michael Clayton deserves it.

 

Adapted Script: NCFOM, no doubt

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Ruby Dee was a terrible nomination. It's not that she was bad but her part was really insignificant. If you're going to nominate someone from American Gangster, why not Denzel Washington? I mean surely he wouldn't be any worse of a nomination than Tommy Lee Jones for In The Valley of Elah (A movie I completely forgot about until he was nominated this morning)

 

 

And I thought No Country for Old Men was sort of an ensemble movie. Bardem, Lee Jones, and Brolin all had around the same amount of screentime)

 

Uhhhh....not really. Brolin and Bardem for sure clock in more screen time then TLJ.

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Yeah, I thought Brolin was excellent in NCFOM in a very difficult and understated role, while Bardem essentially just had to show up and kill a bunch of people (it would be like nominating Rutger Hauer for The Hitcher or something). I think Tommy Lee Jones' nomination is more for NCFOM than it is for Elah, but the thing is he really didn't do much in NCFOM until the last 20 mins. or so.

 

I can't help but think Clooney must have some unreal pull since Michael Clayton just isn't getting the reviews or praise to deserve 7 nods.

 

Personally I would have put Sweeney Todd, Eastern Promises, and Gone Baby Gone in the best picture category before either Atonement or Michael Clayton. I don't think either of those 2 will win though since they just aren't considered good enough. How can the Academy vote for either of those over NCFOM or TWBB when those latter two are getting vastly more critical praise? That said, I'm sticking with my Juno pick for best picture.

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Once better win best song. Although, "When Your Mind's Made Up" and "Say It To Me Now" are better than both of the songs from Once on the eligiblity list. Hell, it should have just been 5 songs from Once. And wtf, Black Snake Moan has no songs eligible for best song. The song "Black Snake Moan" is greater than some crap from Good Luck Chuck or Music & Lyrics. But, I guess that the "movies from the first 8 months of the year don't exist" mentality of the oscars is to thank for that.

 

Ruby Dee was only in American Gangster for like 4 minutes. She wasn't bad or anything, but she really wasn't even in the movie that much. Catherine Keener got robbed. They should've gave Ed Harris a supporting actor nod for Gone Baby Gone, he was great in that. Although, that field is pretty stacked with performances I liked. Viggo getting a best actor nod makes up for all that though.

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Michael Clayton was good, Cabbage. Go see the movie before you keep ranting about it based off critic reviews, have your own opinion. Bob, good call on Tamblyn. I don't know if that was just a fandom pick or genuine feeling but it was a good performence. In fact, I thought Swinton was better in that movie then she was in Clayton.

 

Is Ruby Dee dying? That was a strange pick. Holbrook already had the old timer nod locked up. A good amount of people got fucked on that especially Garner and Keener.

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I'm surprised Angelina Jolie didnt get nominated for A Mighty Heart.

 

I am shocked but thrilled for all the Juno nominations--especially for Ellen Page.

 

What a day for Ben Affleck. His brother gets nominated for acting; Amy Ryan gets nominated for the role he directed her in; and his wife's movie gets nominated for Best Picture. For not getting an actual nomination himself, that's quite a day.

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Oh, Hawk I wasn't trying to trash Michael Clayton. I'll check it out by all means once it hits DVD, but I'm just saying there was nothing in its buzz, critical reviews, and so on to suggest 7 Oscar nominations. That just makes it look like Clooney had some kind of pull.

 

As I mentioned before it's getting 7.7 on imdb.com which suggests roughly a *** movie. On rottentomatoes it gets 87% (7.6 rating), which is very good. It gets 4/5 on allmovie.com.

 

So yeah I'll check out MC on DVD. Now, Atonement? That I have no desire to see.

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As I mentioned before it's getting 7.7 on imdb.com which suggests roughly a *** movie.

 

I don't know anymore. It seems that damn near every new movie that gets a little praise ends up on the top 250 list. I mean, Hot Fuzz, Yuma, Live Free Or Die Hard, and Grindhouse (All solid films, but still) were at one point listed in the top 250 this year. It just seems that damn near every 2007 movie either has around a 7.7 or a ridiculously low score like 2.4

 

Anyways, Michael Clayton looks pretty good but really didn't scream out best picture to me.

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Ellen Page deserves to win for Juno but part of me hopes she doesn't. She's still quite young and it might be too much too soon. I'd just hate to see all the success and fame go to her head and her end up like Lohan/Spears/Renfro. I remember Mathew Perry saying something like 'getting everything you want in life when your 24 is not neccessarily a good thing'. Well, she's only 20 and an oscar can wait.

 

I was sort of hoping Michael Cera would get a nod, but that probably was just wishful thinking.

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'michael clayton' is indeed one of the 4 or 5 best movies that came out this year (at least of the ones i saw). it's a lot like 'the conversation', a nice slow-boiling character study and half-artfilm that's masquerading as an espionage thriller story. i don't think it's going to win any of the major categories, so it's getting just about the right amount of love it should be.

 

'juno' is pretty severely overrated. it's entertaining and easy to watch, but it essentially boils down to some characters who are too smart for their writer to know what to really do with, so the writer throws a bunch of standard melodrama plot twists in it. the dialogue is funny, but only in a sitcom kind of way where the writer feels the need to make every line a one-liner that has nothing to do with anything.

 

you heard it here first, diablo cody is a one-trick pony who is never going to come up with anything worthwhile again. i see through your gimmicks, diablo, to the robert mckee within you that's trying to cover for your lack of real ideas.

 

not that it was a bad movie at all, it was quite good. but next to more full-bodied character studies, it seems pretty underdeveloped and limp the more i think about it. and it was much better than 'little miss sunshine', which got roughly 3 million times the amount of praise it should've gotten.

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As I mentioned before it's getting 7.7 on imdb.com which suggests roughly a *** movie. On rottentomatoes it gets 87% (7.6 rating), which is very good. It gets 4/5 on allmovie.com.

I've read enough of your posts in this folder to confidentally state you are one the stupidest, most ignorant people to populate it.

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Ranking the Best Picture nominees I've seen;

 

1. There Will Be Blood

2. No Country for Old Men

3. Michael Clayton

4. Juno

 

 

Am going to see Atonement sometime in the next few weeks. Am not really looking forward to doing so but I set out to see all The Best Picture nominees every year so I'll do it. And the more I think about Juno, the more overrated I think it is. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it but some of the dialogue was too smart for its own good and it really pales in comparison to the other nominees.

 

And how about Zodiac getting completely snubbed? They were pretty damn stupid to release that one way back in March.

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