AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2005 Kawajiri needs to clean out the LW division in Bushido so this Gomi #1 nonsense will stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2005 Kawajiri needs to clean out the LHW division in Bushido so this Gomi #1 nonsense will stop. With how much HGH Kawajiri has already put into his body, I fear the thought of him trying to bulk up to LHW. Also, Yves better leave the cowboy hat at home, or else he might confuse the poor Japs' preconcieved stereotypes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2005 ...or form new ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2005 Kawajiri needs to clean out the LHW division in Bushido so this Gomi #1 nonsense will stop. With how much HGH Kawajiri has already put into his body, I fear the thought of him trying to bulk up to LHW. Also, Yves better leave the cowboy hat at home, or else he might confuse the poor Japs' preconcieved stereotypes. Whoops, did I say LHW? You know what I meant, it's been amended Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deft Report post Posted May 10, 2005 Ricco~! at 205?! I won't believe it till I see it. http://forums.mmaweekly.com/Toast.asp?sub=...fid=2&tid=76106 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 12, 2005 From the Pride (in Japanese) site, they have these match-ups for the next round: Arona vs. Sakuraba Nakamura vs. Silva Vovchanchyn vs. Overeem Shogun vs. Noguiera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 Me after reading that: "Wow...Wow..... ..... ...Wow...." The Nak vs. Silva - AWESOME~! Shogun vs. Noguiera - AWESOME~! Vovchanchyn vs. Overeem - AWESOME~! Sak vs. Arona - ABOVE AVERAGE~! It was the second worst pairing for Shogun, but it's much better than having to face Arona. TON doesn't have the takedowns that Arona or Babalu have, and even better is willing to initially stand with Shogun. I think the winner of this fight will go on to win the tournament, because if TON wins, he just sub'd a fighter similar to Wanderlei. And if Shogun wins, well... he fucking rules. Unless he fights Arona in the semis, which would be dangerous. Nakamura vs. Silva is almost a dream match for me. Silva showed he had problems with Yoshidas clinch, and Nakamura is just as dangerous in there and has better stand up than Yoshida, and uses his judo more effectively in MMA IMO. The odds will definitely favour Silva, but Nakamura has a chance. Can the pupil avenge the teachers loss? Vovchanchyn vs. Overeem has two nifty layers as well, with Igor beating Alistairs brother, and the two being notable strikers. Arona vs. Sakuraba isn't total death for Sakuraba, but it might be for the crowd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 You should feel dirty for even acting like Nakamura will be anything BUT a cakewalk for Silva unless he carries Nak as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 I <3 The Nak. I still haven't figured out why Silva sucks against Yoshida. I refuse to believe he has been told to carry him. I can only assume it's because Silva fears Judokas and their hip throws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 You should feel dirty for even acting like Nakamura will be anything BUT a cakewalk for Silva unless he carries Nak as well. At least I'm not the only one who believes that Silva carried Yosh in those two fights. *Looks back and forth then runs away* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 I watched UFC 35: Throwdown the other day... Jens Pulver vs. BJ Penn - I expected more from these two. About midway through the 3rd round I decided to skip ahead. Even though I knew it wasn't going to be a barnburner, I was still disappointed. Ricco Rodriguez vs. Jeff Monson - this was ok. It's still funny to see Ricco being built up after they discarded him after his loss to Sylvia. The cartwheel was fun, and he threw some good knees. Dave Menne vs. Murilo Bustamante - I love the early-Zuffa champions. It seems so very long ago. An ok fight, a good final shot from Busta. Chuck Liddell vs. Amar Suloev - Not bad, but not very good stand up fight either. Mostly leg kicks and the occasional combination. It's weird seeing Chuck get booed, considering he's the most popular fighter in the UFC now. Ricardo Almeida vs. Andrei Semenov - Why haven't I heard this fight pimped? THIS IS AWESOME! A UFC MOTYC IMO (LOL). Almedia was swanktacular with some of his submissions (going from an triangle to an armbar to a LEG BAR~! in fluid motions), the action was constant, and the finish came out of no where. Overall, it was an OK show. Couture, even then, was great on commentary. Goldberg has improved a lot since then. Thank god they got rid of Osbourne. He's the Mike Tenay of MMA... good for maybe a fight or two, but shouldn't be on constantly. Good knowledge, but little enthusiasm. Rogan is much better in that spot. If Randy ever retires, they should bring him in on a permanent basis. So good. The style of the PPV was different, which is really interesting watching now. It's been a while since I've seen shows from this era, which is strange saying ("era") because it was just 2/3 years ago. The UFC and Zuffa have definitely made some improvements, and yet they still keep some of the silly stuff (constant post-fight interviews, even when they shouldn't put some guys on the mic; constantly talking about "the mainstream" and almost undermining the intelligence of those watching) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 - So I see PRIDE has gotten already destroyed your minds as well... *puts tinfoil hat back on* - I'd rather have Osbourne's unnaturally deep voice than Rogan screaming every other word. Oh, and... "Miller is light-years ahead of St. Pierre on the ground."- Joe Rogan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 If I wanted a good nights sleep, I'd listen to Osbournes commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 If I wanted a good nights sleep, I'd listen to Osbournes commentary. If I wanted to become an unrelenting spaz via osmosis, I'd listen to Rogan's commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 Oh, and Almeida's combo was an armbar to kneebar to heel hook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 "Miller is light-years ahead of St. Pierre on the ground."- Joe Rogan Must have been why St. Pierre got schooled so bad in that fight *rolls eyes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2005 I watched WFA 3 tonight. Jeff Curran vs. Todd Lally - mostly boring stuff but a sweet finish with an elevator into a triangle. Jason Black vs. Chad Saunders - This was, for the most part, boring. Vitor Ribeiro vs. Eddie Yagin - This was my first look at Shaolin, and he was very good, but I was expecting so much more considering the guys he has beaten. Yagin had a great sprawl and did very well on the ground when he had his back mounted plus he did some Sakuraba style leaps and cartwheels, but his stand up was shit. Vitor threw some nice jabs and is pretty slick on the ground. Good fight, nonetheless. Mike Van Arsdale vs. Chris Haseman - Haseman landed a sweet kick to the solar plexus that had MVA down but it was after the bell (the down, not the kick). MVA, from one angle when he was closing the fight, had some impressive, Vitor Belfort-like, punches from the guard but another angle made them look sketchy. Not a great fight by any stretch of the imagination. Josh Thomson vs. Rob McCullough - Fight of the night, really good stuff from Josh Thomson, very slick ground work. McCullough wasn't much of anything. Marvin Eastman vs. Alex Stiebling - I expected more from Alex and less from Eastman. Solid punch, nice set up. Frank Trigg vs. Dennis Hallman - OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! So THAT'S what caused all men around the world to shed a single tear... Overall, shitty video production, poor announcing, very slutty women, frank shamrock, and pretty good fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 18, 2005 Credit: MMAWeekly.com "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Tito Ortiz recently spoke with MMAWeekly's Ryan Bennett and Frank Trigg about a myriad of topics. Tito talked about everything from his relationship with the UFC to future his K-1 status, what happened with Pride, would he fight Tank Abbott, the possibility of starting his own promotion, when he'll be competing again, and who he'd like to compete against. Ryan Bennett: Tito how are you doing? Everything good? Tito Ortiz: Yeah. I had a good time in Hawaii, had a nice flight back. I got home last night. Bennett: That's good. Trigg say hello to Tito Ortiz. Frank Trigg: Hi Tito Ortiz. Ortiz: What's up Mr. Trigg. Trigg: What's happening kid? Ortiz: Nada man. I just got to see some good fights this weekend at Rumble on the Rock. Those guys really treat us good, first class flight all the way through man. Trigg: Here's the deal though see they take care of Tito Ortiz because he is Tito Ortiz. If I were to fly over there they'd put me in the bathroom or underneath a rock. Ortiz: I had a good time, a really, really good time. Bennett: When Trigg gets on a flight they're like OK you can sit in back in the bathroom. You're stuck six hours in the bathroom. It's great. [Everyone laughs] Am I wrong Trigg or not? Trigg: You are 100% correct. [Everyone laughs] They take great care of me. Pfft. Bennett: Hey Tito let's start with the fights this weekend. Tank Abbott. I mean it was something that he was a big underdog, and he landed that right hand on Cabbage. You and I were calling the fight. We were talking before that I didn't think one punch could knockout Cabbage, but that's basically what happened. Ortiz: Yeah but he went in there with Tank man. I mean he's 265 pounds, six foot three, and when you stand in front of him and you get punched with a solid right hand about 100% of the time you're going to get dropped. Cabbage has a hard head, but you can't go in there thinking that I can take a punch by someone like Tank. Tank came in and did what he wanted to do. I was saying at the beginning of the match that usually when Tank rematches somebody he usually does a lot better because he tries to fix his mistakes that he did the first time. I saw Cabbage and some of the mistakes he was making. He was swinging with Tank instead of clinching and kneeing him like he did the first time he beat him. I think that's what it came down to where Cabbage fought Tank's fight, and that's something that he didn't want to do. Bennett: You know what's interesting is when I was watching Tank before the fight, this is when Bruce Buffer was getting ready to introduce each guy, Tank was kind of walking back and forth. He kept glancing at you. Did you notice that? Ortiz: Yeah a little bit. You know me and Tank we have history, a long history with each other. He was probably thinking in his mind that I've got to win man. I'm going to do it with a factual statement too. I think in his mind he was just trying to get a successful win at the end of the match. Bennett: Is it uncomfortable? I mean is it uncomfortable when you guys are near each other or what is that like? You mention it, the history between you two. Ortiz: Yeah it is a little uncomfortable. I mean it's just the person he is. We really don't get along with each other. You know? I'm a really giving person with all my friends. I really take care of my friends a whole bunch, and he's not that type of person. He's a real selfish guy, and that's just the way Tank is man. Tank is his own man. Bennett: Do you guys ever talk? Ortiz: No, never man. We stay away from each other. He stays on his side of the ball turf and I stay on my side of the ball turf. That's just the way it is, and we stay out of each other's hair. I try not to talk smack about him. He doesn't talk smack about me, and we stay away from each other. Bennett: If a promoter walked up to you and said I'm going to give you a ton of cash to fight Tank, what would you do? Ortiz: If Tank made 220, let the beatings begin. I'm a 205 pounder. That's my weight class, so I ain't going to fight someone that's 265. That's just stupid. Bennett: Or 275 right? Didn't he weigh like 275 for this fight? Ortiz: He was like 275. That's a big kid. A lot of guys don't understand....That's a huge difference. Bennett: Yeah Kimo found that out too man. Even though he won, he had a tough time against the big fellow Royster. That's a lot of weight to give up. Ortiz: In my mind I'm a 205 pounder. There's no reason for me to go up at all, but you know if the money is right you never know. Trigg: Dude why are we talking about these other fights when I want to know when Tito is going to fight again? Ortiz: Well let's see. I'm going to before September's over. I mean I'm just starting to get back in shape right now, and I want to compete as soon as possible. In my mind I think the fans want to see Tito Ortiz compete again. I guess it's time to find out what organization I'll be fighting for and who will be my opponent. Right now I'm pretty much in the dark man. I'm not sure, but I'd say by the end of June there will be a big announcement for sure. Possibly with the UFC. Possibly with K-1, or possibly another organization, but Tito Ortiz will be competing by September. Bennett: Here's the one that was on the message board recently. It kind of put the Internet on the buzz. There was, I believe it was your website actually, they said there is a possibility of you facing Chuck Liddell at UFC 54. Ortiz: Really? That would be interesting. That would be interesting, very, very interesting. I'd be down for that completely. What's the date on that one? Bennett? That's a good question. Is that September or is it August? Trigg: That one's August. Bennett: Is it August? Trigg: Yes. Bennett: What do you think Tito? Ortiz: That's a great possibility. That's something that really interests me completely. If they put the contract in front of me, and it's a good contract, something I'd like to see, and a lot of my management like me to do things I want to do, and I'm always willing to fight. Bennett: Tito there's been so much talk. I mean you've addressed it before, but with everything that went down with the UFC, them taking you off the website,what is your relationship right now with the UFC? Ortiz: There is no relationship at all. I feel like pretty much an ex-girlfriend. Not being on the website and stuff like that, it's just like, it's really odd. I guess that's the way the ball bounces, and you know I've just got to roll with the punches, and see what happens in the future. Bennett: So it's kind of tough to put Liddell/Ortiz at UFC 54 when there's no relationship right now right? Ortiz: There's no relationship at all and Tito Ortiz was never a UFC fighter. That's kind of odd. I was there my whole career for eight years. I was there before the company was even bought by Zuffa, but I'm still not a UFC fighter. Things happen man, and things like that are just really, really stupid. I guess I kind of sit back and just hopefully the best happens. Bennett: Why do you think that was Tito? Why do you think the UFC did that? Ortiz: I think they, the UFC, pretty much didn't want me to get bigger than the company, so they just started chopping down the walls that Tito Ortiz' been trying to build. They've been successful so far, but it's only going to last for so long, and like I said, I'm going to make it with or without them man. I have big dreams in my mind that I want to succeed in life, and one company's not going to stop me from doing that. That's for sure. Bennett: Do you feel it's just all because of negotiations? Ortiz: I hope it's all because of negotiations, but right now they're making it really personal. Take me off the website and all that stuff. That's really personal to me, but I guess they've got to do their business the way they think they're doing their business right. In the long run, in my mind, I just want to fight man. I just want to step into the octagon, any octagon and just beat someone down. Trigg: Tito I can hear by talking about the UFC how hurt you are. You know, taking you off the website and stuff like that. Is this going to maul your relationship with the UFC if everything comes together and you get a contract signed. You know say it is Chuck Liddell at UFC 54, is this going to hurt the stuff that you used to do before? Because I actually learned my lesson from you Tito about how to treat the fans, how to be out there for every autograph, how to be out there for every picture. Is this going to kind of change you when you fight for the UFC again because of the way they kind of treated you during the negotiations? Ortiz. In my mind when ever I compete man, it's going to be the same Tito Ortiz. When ever I do an interview it's going to be the same Tito Ortiz. I'm going to make it exciting no matter what. No matter what company it's for. No matter who it's with I'm going to try to push the company as much as possible. If the UFC resigns me, they resign me...I'm always there to work as much as possible. I've never been a person to talk negative about the UFC. I've never been a person to talk negative about MMA. I've pretty much always talked about the good stuff about it. You know? The positive things about Mixed Martial Arts, and I try to do my job to a T and dot the I's as much as possible. What it comes down to, in my mind, I just want to make sure that I'm satisfied at the end of each fight, and at the beginning of each fight, so when I compete my mind's at a 100%. Bennett: Tito we talked briefly about maybe a future rematch down the road with Chuck Liddell. What did you learn from that first fight that would help you for a potential second fight with Chuck Liddell? Ortiz: Pretty much when Couture fought Chuck Liddell a second time, you know you can't fight Chuck Liddell's fight. You've got to close the gap. You've got to clinch. You've got to take him down. You can't sit there and swing with him the whole time because the guy has wild punches, and they come out of nowhere. A lot of his punches you have to make sure see as they come. When Couture fought him he stood up and he slugged with him. When I fought him I stood up and slugged with him. I think I shot once. It's just something that I would have a completely different game plan. I think I'd smother him a lot more, try to take the fight to him as much as possible. Bennett: How tough is he to take down, Chuck? Ortiz: He's pretty difficult to take down. I mean of course him being a former Cal Poly wrestler. I mean the guy has a lot of education in wrestling of course. I think there's scrambling positions a lot of them I could win. I mean that's a fight you've just go to get down to, but a lot of people don't understand that before I fought him I had a partial tear in my left knee. They drained 8 cc's of blood a month before the fight, and I still worked through it. That isn't an excuse I was looking for or anything, but there were a couple of injuries that kind of hindered me to shoot and do the take downs I normally do, and now that I'm 100% now those take downs are a lot easier to get, and I feel a lot stronger than I was before. Bennett: Did you do that in training, or what happened to the knee? Ortiz: I was actually working with Scary Jerry, and Scary Jerry's about 265-270, and I tried to inside trip him. When I tried to inside trip him and my knee popped a little bit. I went to get it drained, and they took about 8 cc's of blood, and this was before I fought Chuck Liddell. The month prior. You know I stuck to it and trained. I mean I did a little bit of therapy on it, and it started healing a little bit better. I mean my take downs weren't what they used to be, but I still took the fight no matter what. I mean I wanted to get in the octagon, and I felt great. I felt great the first round. I felt great in the middle of the second. Just when I got caught with the thumb, you know, it pretty much stopped. [since this interview was conducted, Tito Ortiz was a guest on The Best Damn Sports Show Period, and made an appearance as a guest referee for a TNA pro wrestling event. That part of the interview was omitted. We pick right back up following questions about those two appearances.] Trigg: There's been a bunch of rumors flying around about you Tito, about you actually starting your own organization. Is there any truth to that, or is that just something that was looked into and you decided against it? What's the deal with that? Ortiz: Well you know, I mean, with Tito Ortiz there is always all kinds of rumors that are going around, for right now that's pretty much all it is, is just a rumor. Bennett: You haven't had any talks with the Maloofs? Ortiz: No. Not at all. Bennett: OK. That would be interesting. Ortiz: If they do get in the business that would be huge. You know? It would be another big hitter in the business, so you never know man. Bennett: Will we get to see a rematch with Ken Shamrock, or is there any chance of that even happening? Ortiz: A rematch with Ken Shamrock that would be wonderful, but I'm not sure if Ken really wants to do it. I'm sure that a lot of this stuff he's been talking after I beat Belfort saying just sign the contract da da da, you know that was just for show man. I don't think that guy wants to fight me. To me who do I compete against? The UFC won't let me fight Chuck Liddell, so who do I go look for? I mean, in my mind, I want to fight someone who beat me already. Couture's with the UFC, so I guess that won't be happening. Frank Shamrock. That's a name that's been popping in my head for the past, I don't know, almost six years now. That's someone I'd like to compete against. Shamrock is competing, and if Frank wants to step up that would be awesome. Bennett: You and I talked the other day. You basically said you'd be willing to go to 199 for Shamrock? Ortiz: I'd be willing to go 199 for Shamrock for sure. Bennett: 199 to fight Frank, but is it one of those things Tito that basically at this point in your career you want to avenge some of those loses? Ortiz: Yeah that's what it comes down to. With Frank, that was probably one of the greatest fights in UFC history that me and him had against each other. I think the fans deserve another fight like that. Bennett: When was the last time you were 199? Ortiz: The last time I was 199 I think um I don't know. Bennett: It's been years right? Ortiz: Yeah it's been a few years. I guess since I beat Wanderlei Silva. That's the last time I was 199. Bennett: Yea that's been years ago. Ortiz: Wait, wait, wait. I take that back. I take that back. When I fought Evan Tanner I was 199. Bennett: OK. Ortiz: Yeah. I think after that they changed the weight. Bennett: How tough would that be to get to 199 if you wanted to fight Frank? Ortiz: Not that bad. I mean I think it would take a little extra dieting. I think I weighed, walked around back at 210. I couldn't be 215 how it is now, so it's just a five pound difference. It isn't really that bad. It's just a little extra dieting. You know just watching my workouts, when I lift weights and stuff, and just make sure I get down to 199 no problem. Bennett: Will you be fighting in Mexico anytime soon? Ortiz: Not anytime soon. No. Nothing is on the horizon for myself, so right now I'm just hoping to fight in the States once again. Bennett: Tito as far as K-1 goes, how real are those possibilities? Ortiz: Actually I just met with K-1 last week, and those possibilities are 50/50 man. They sat down and showed a little bit of what they want to do with Tito Ortiz, and they want to push me as much as possible, so it's basically going to come down to who comes with the biggest contract in front of me. You know? I just want to compete. It doesn't matter to me. I just want to compete, and get back in the octagon. I'm just going to leave it up to Bardia to do all the business side of it. Bennett: What's your future with Abu Dhabi? There was talk about you competing in this Abu Dhabi. Ortiz: There was. Actually I was going to compete in Abu Dhabi, but a couple of weeks ago I kind of banged my knee up a little bit working out with Ivan Salaverry. I thought it would be able to heal in time, but I'm probably about 90% right now, and I just don't want to test it. I don't want to chance it....So I ended up just pulling myself out. You know just work on a lot of stuff without competing. Bennett: What would it take to get you back in the UFC contractually? What would it take to get you back in the octagon? Ortiz: A good contract. You know? I guess I've got to leave that up to Bardia, my management company, and make sure they make the right decisions for Tito Ortiz' future. I mean that's what it really comes down to. Let them do their job, and when it's time to do my job make sure I do it to a T. Bennett: Is there a magic number out there that you're looking to sign at? Ortiz: There's a couple of magic numbers man. I've got to make sure that I compete at what I want. You know? I'm not going to be competing for the rest of my life. I'm 30 years old now, and I see about anywhere from three to four years ahead of me of competing maybe, and I just want to make the best out of it. When I'm done with this I want to make sure I've made enough money through fighting that I sit comfortably. When I put my body through the grinding stone for three months at a time prior to a fight, you know, I have a chance of hurting my back. I have a chance of hurting my knees. For the future of Tito Ortiz when I'm 40 and 50 years old I'm able to walk with my son, and able to pitch a ball with him. You know? I want to make sure that there is enough revenue coming in from the fights that I've done. I mean that's the whole idea of it man, to make sure that I have enough money at the end where I can retire, and I'm able to walk with my son and throw a baseball or football with him. Bennett: Tito there were two Internet reports, they're a couple of months old, one I believe Josh Gross quoted that said that you would fight in the UFC for 300 grand. The other one, Ivan Trembow from MMAWeekly said 350. Is there any truth to either one of those? Ortiz: Both of those numbers are completely true. To me, I'm really not a stupid person. I can see the numbers in front of me, and when a show's doing 2 million 500 at the gate. They're doing another 200,000 pay-per-view buys, do the math. Those are huge numbers. When I'm getting paid 160,000 dollars to do that, and I'm one of the main cause, it just doesn't make sense to me. I mean to me it just seems like I'm getting the blanket pulled over my eyes. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. That's just the way I am. Bennett: Trigg that's the kind of money you need to generate Trigg. (laughs) Trigg: Ain't that the truth. Ortiz: I mean I have been working really, really hard to build Tito Ortiz when I first started. It wasn't something like alright I'm here to fight. I was here to make a statement. I was here so when I leave that I was going to be a legend, and I was going to do a lot of things in my career to make that happen. I just feel that what I put into it I should get out of it. Bennett: Trigg what's your thoughts on that? Trigg: I've got to tell you what, it comes down to just like Tyson's fighting June 11th, and the reason why people want to watch Tyson is because he's exciting. He's unpredictable. Tito Ortiz basically has the ability to create that kind of money for the fight world, and you know you get paid off of the people that buy butts in the seats and people that buy pay-per-view shows, and Tito Ortiz makes those kind of numbers happen. You're basically worth what the promoter is willing to pay you. If the UFC is willing to pay him that kind of money, he gets it. If they're not, then he either has to go look elsewhere, or take the money that they're willing to offer him. Ortiz: Trigg you're the first fighter that's actually kind of stood up for me, and I really appreciate that because a lot fighters, these guys just don't understand. All they care about is fighting. They don't care about their future. They just want to see what's going to happen in their next fight, or be s guy that yeah I fought in the UFC. Stuff like that shouldn't really matter. I think the fighters should be getting paid the right amount of money, and someone needs to make a stand, and I think a lot of us fighters need to come together. Possibly create union. If there was a union for us fighters then everybody gets paid the same salary cap and everything...When guys are getting paid 1500 dollars, 2500 dollars just to show up and compete in the UFC that's just ridiculous man. Money like that shouldn't even be thrown around. It takes anywhere from 5 to 6,000 dollars for a training camp for a fight. How are you going to live off of 2500 dollars or 5000 dollars let alone? Bennett: Tito why not Pride by the way? Ortiz: Pride? Pride's got it monopolized man. The UFC and Pride's got it monopolized. Pride, when my management company actually emailed back and forth, and all of a sudden we got an email back from Pride saying that If I'm not a UFC fighter, If I don't sign with the UFC I will not compete in Pride. That's how it was. That's how it is, and if you don't like it, don't compete. Bennett: That's weird because you're not under contract right? I mean you're a free agent? Ortiz: Completely. Bennett: Interesting. Ortiz: That's the way it is. That's the way business people work. That's just horrible for the Mixed Martial Arts world that that's how things go down. In the future hopefully that will change, and other companies will stop battling with each other, and start working with each other. That's how this sport is going to grow when companies start working with each other and have the best possible people in the world to compete against one another. Not just one event like the UFC. Bennett: That's one thing, seriously love him or hate him, that's one thing I respect about Tito, he's never afraid to answer every question and any question, and that's why we appreciate you bro. Trigg: I'm telling you, when I was making life changes as a fighter I really, I swear to God, I looked at Tito Ortiz of how to be on the camera, how to be with the fans and stuff. I've got to tell you what man, he definitely, Tito Ortiz definitely goes out of his way. He will stand in front of a club when he's wanting to get inside just to have a good time and be by himself. He'll stand out front and sign autographs all night, and miss his whole night just for the fans. Ortiz: It's all about the fans. If it wasn't for the fans we'd be other fighters. The fans is what makes the fighter pretty much I think. Bennett: Hey Tito before I let you go, who is the best fighter right now in your weight class, 205. We're talking anybody from to the UFC. Who are the top two or three guys in the world at 205? Ortiz: I think the best guy right off the bat, I have to give it to Chuck. You know I've got to give it to Chuck for being the best guy in the world right now. For him to do what he did to Randy Couture, no one in the world has ever done that, and it's Chuck's time man. It's his time to shine, and I think he deserves it. He's traveled a long road to get to where he is right now, and I think he's the top guy right now. The second one would have to be, it's got to be Couture man. I don't see a lot of people beating Couture. Right now it seems like 205 is pretty much the top of the food chain. All the guys that compete at that level are pretty much the top. Bennett: Why would you say Chuck would beat Wanderlei in your opinion? Ortiz: Chuck's a little bigger, plus he has great wrestling skills. I think he has a longer reach than Wanderlei does. Wanderlei's viscous right in the first clinching part. I don't think Chuck would be out clinched by Wanderlei. There's a lot of things. Wanderlei's a smaller guy man. A lot of guys don't see it. His last fight he did he looked like he was about 190 pounds. I'm not sure if he got sick or something, but he looked a lot lighter than usual, and 205 isn't his true weight. Bennett: Tito always appreciate it my friend. Good luck with everything, and we look forward to seeing you in the cage or ring hopefully by September right? Ortiz: Yeah that's my idea. I mean of course I've always got to thank the UFC for doing what they've ever done for me, and I can't talk nothing bad about them because they really got me to where I am right now, but I've got to help myself to get there. I've got to thank all of my fans for supporting me throughout this whole thing. I appreciate it very, very much. In September I'll compete again. Of course everybody punish your opponents and look good doing it at www.punishmentathletics.com. We've got a bunch of new gear on that site, and it's actually going to go across the United States in a lot of local stores, so if you guys are out in the stores look for Punishment Athletics. Bennett: Appreciate it Tito. Thank you so much bud. Ortiz: Right on. Trigg thank you much. Ryan thanks. All my fans out there stay tuned for Tito Ortiz. Bennett: Thanks Tito. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2005 Bushido 7 results for those who are interested: http://kakutougi.info/content/view/144/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 22, 2005 There's a pretty good write-up at the DVDVR boards, if you need something more detailed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2005 If anyone is interested in the pbp, here's the best pbp guy you can find: http://forum.kakutougi.info/showthread.php?t=1612 Can't remember if you have to sign up in order to view threads or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2005 I watched the Team Miletich PPV, and it was pretty muh. I'll save you some time and sum it up "Pat nose allot. They luv each other. MMA iz g8. Watch the same clips 10 times each." I watched UFC 31 as well, cept for Couture/Rizzo. Stay tooned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2005 Pride 17. Worth getting or not ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2005 Pride 17. Worth getting or not ? Yes. Off the top of my head there are two great fights, with a bunch of good ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2005 Bushido 7 was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2005 Pride 17. Worth getting or not ? Yes. Off the top of my head there are two great fights, with a bunch of good ones. The only matches on there not worth watching are Renzo/Ohara and Erikson/Skelton, the rest are great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2005 RIZZO/KHARITONOV!!!!!!!!! NEXT PRIDE SHOW! JEEEEEEESUS~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2005 PAWEL-MINOTAUROOOOOOOOOOO HOLEE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2005 I recently watched the Team Militech PPV as well (same source perhaps?) and I would say that I found it enjoyable, but that's because I am interested in hearing how Pat feels about things. Pat is the man, some good little anecdotes in there too from the boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2005 I think Pat is a very well-spokem, smart, fighter. But he was so boring in the ring that I don't really care what he thinks or how he grew up. Watching UFC 31 and Newton beating him felt sooo good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites