EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I had no idea the President Elect had any official duties, but it seems like he's getting all sorts of briefings n stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I thought Czech closed the Campaign 2008 thread way too early- all the polls hadn't even closed yet! Bob Barr doing so poorly made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) I had no idea the President Elect had any official duties, but it seems like he's getting all sorts of briefings n stuff... What, did you think they just put a handbook on his desk in the Oval Office titled So You Just Got Sworn In As President....? Edited November 6, 2008 by KingPK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I found this pretty interesting This last one is the stunner. After about 110K, voters in this election became less likely to vote for the ostensibly anti-”spread the wealth” candidate. Obama also had a huge pick-up in 18-29 year-old voters. What explains all this? Here’s my conjecture, in one word: secularization. Rich people who don’t go to church are especially socially liberal. The richer they get, the less they prioritize economic issues over social issues, as Inglehart’s “post-materialism” theory predicts. And, if I recall from recent surveys, there has been a big decline in religiosity among the young, which tends to go along with an increasingly socially liberal cast of mind. The overall effect is that the Republican Party has become too socially conservative for increasingly secular wealthy people and increasingly secular twenty-somethings. The GOP is now pretty clearly the party of the religious, white, middle-aged and elderly middle class–not a group with a shining political future. The increasing popularity of the Democrats among the rich is going to move the economic policy preference of the median Democrat “right” and the economic policy preference of the median Republican “left”. In the short term, this might make for a decrease in polarization on economic policy, which may produce bipartisan support for policies that will horrify libertarians. In the long term, the Democrats will continue to become ever more “socially liberal and fiscally conservative,” despite the attempt of the ideological left-leaning media and academic opinion elites (who are full of New New Deal ideas) to prevent this. Food 4 thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
At Home 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 New York is a scary place. Look at all those ads. Jesus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I just had the pleasure of shaking Senator-elect Jeff Merkley's hand before going into class earlier this morning- dude was accepting the Senate seat right outside my classroom! In front of a throng of reporters and news cameras. That was a hell of a hard-fought victory though, and unseating Gordon Smith was no easy task- I was looking forward much more to shaking Novick's hook, but if Obama takes our Earl from the House to Secretary of Transportation, there's a strong possibility that Novick could be in Congress through that way, so having both the guys in our Democratic Primary in Congress plus Earl in the Cabinet would be some hella strong Oregon representation in the federal government. I'd love it. Merkley's victory ensures that Oregon is practically 100% blue now, from governor to senators to representatives and state government. Awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 So I found a list on another board of some myspace and facebook updates after the election. Welcome to the Giant Quote Box of RETAAAARDS. is sick. Good job guys. Obama is most likely the anti-Christ. And the end of the world is possibly coming. Seek God now...no joke. Good job, guys. ... PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB! Bye Bye military, Hello Allah... just saw America get fleeced. If Dear Leader socializes this great nation she WILL move to Australia... is hoping people realize what they have just done!!!! is wow... i'm really sad. thinks President-Elect Obama can't be to bad, he shares his birthday. is moving to canada tommorw, but getting drun k at her house tonight!! is thanking stephanie for the crisis that is about to occur. is proud to go to school in Ky, and not Ohio. voted for Chuck Baldwin. Shove your McCains and Obamas, losers!! is thanking all of the dead Americans that came back to life to vote for Obama...he couldn't have done it without you!...welcome to hell American, **** change. is preparing to go shopping at the Goodwill store for the rest of her life. thank you obama. is praying for the lives of the unborn. who knows how many innocent lives will die over the next four years?? is who would have thought that putting your entire strategy behind an unlicensed tax-evading plumber wouldn't work? guarentees you will all regret this. is know that there is only ONE savior--only ONE in whom you can find hope, and his name is NOT Obama. So stop the Obama worship!! thinks we are ****ed.......hard.........in the ass. "You gullable Americans, your grandchildren will accept small doses of socialism until one day they wake up under a totalitarian communist state"-Kreuschev 1953. is fail! But what matters is that God is still in control. And it is still our responsibility to pray for the president. polls will soon change when white people get off work to vote. (from earlier today) is who would have thought that putting your entire strategy behind an unlicensed tax-evading plumber wouldn't work? is fill in the blank.______ is to the United States as Castro is to Cuba! ok...so who am I gonna make my check out to now??...Good Sam? would really like to sleep now. Please stop screaming outside my window. bets Michelle Obama gets lucky tonight! Ralph nader lost?!?! im just glad we dont have to watch those stupid "vote for me" commercials anymore... will never call Barak her president, he does not represent her, her beliefs or her country..and she is more than delighted to be moving from the state of ohio. is o well, we can always move to Canada =). I just want to point out that not all of my Republican friends are raving lunatics. I highly doubt anyone will move to Canada either. says that TOGETHER is the only way we can make a difference in the world. Let's REUNITE the States of AMERICA! is "yesterday is history, and history is miles away. so leave it all behind you, let it always remind you of the day, the day that love made history." is happy Bush's days are now truly numbered. at least can say he interviewed someone who later became president. says if your a democrat raise your hand.. if your a republican move to canada... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZGangsta 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I love the conservatives who talk about moving to Canada. Yeah, you're scared of a liberal president so move to the country that is even more liberal than that president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chazz 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 Just like a lot of liberals claimed they were moving to The Great White North after W. got re-elected 4 years ago. Much like then, it's just anger talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 Yeah, but...nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*Z*E*C*H Report post Posted November 6, 2008 Now what will become of old Joe Lieberman? Will Rahm Emanuel stab him and scream "YOU ARE DEAD TO US!!!!" or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I'm disappointed Obama won, but with American Idol as the #1 show in the country, its not a shock that so many people would fall for his empty promises of change without looking into his record as senator, or the fact that David Axelrod came up with Obama's whole gimmick (and thats just what it is). What the fuck ever. Before people try to judge Obama entirely by his voting record, they need to keep in mind that he was in the minority most of the time he has been in the Senate, and still got bipartisan bills passed with Lugar and Coburn. Are you sure you are really looking at his actual voting record, and not just the percentage of times he voted with his party or against the Bush Administration? If you want to bitch about Obama's "liberal" voting record, please cite some examples of votes you disagreed with and explain why you disagreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruteSquad_BRODY 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 The local Repub. talk show host was crying today saying the voters 18-25 are to blame for McCain's loss to this socialist Pretty Boy. Then he blamed American Idol for teaching the youth the wrong way to judge people. I emailed him and thanked him for the laugh. Andrew Lutzke to jerry show details 11:01 AM (6 hours ago) Reply Your last 30 minutes of programming today was great parody. Thanks for the laugh. ----- Jerry Bader to me show details 11:16 AM (6 hours ago) Reply Those who are happy Obama won should use any reason they can to laugh now, the joy won't last long... ------ Andrew Lutzke to Jerry show details 5:12 PM (29 minutes ago) Reply How many more civil liberties can really be taken away? Bush's "Patriot Act" and other security measures raped us of alot of privacy and free will. Complaining or worrying that our gun rights will be restricted or removed or whatever the fear tactic is, seems to me to be about as equal a issue as anyone who would've voted McCain strictly for the Pro-Life issue. I don't feel the guns or abortion issues will change drastically regardless who we vote into office. I very well may be wrong as I am 26 and part of the lost generation that you spoke of today. As far as war budget cuts, I can't fathom exactly how Obama intends to reach finality in the Iraq conflict, and fund expanded efforts in Pakistan and Afghanistan. So you have me with that point. -------- Jerry Bader to me show details 5:16 PM (26 minutes ago) Reply Well, After his security briefing today, let's see what Obama thinks of the security measures taken. You feel raped. Tell me specifically how these measures affected you. ------ Andrew Lutzke to Jerry show details 5:26 PM (16 minutes ago) Reply I can't say for certain whether or not I was earmarked as a potential homeland terrorist or not. I assume that those in control of wire tapping and surveillance of persons of interest would be discreet enough that I wouldn't know. It was the abusing of these security measures that bothered me greatly. If Obama is leaning Socialist, What was Bush aiming toward? Totalitarianism? - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 tl, dr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruteSquad_BRODY 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 tl, dr. I have been seeing that on a bunch of message boards and never bothered to look up what it meant. Now i did. Bob Barron made me a better boarder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 7, 2008 I'm only in favor of letting this mega-thread go on until Obama does something of importance. We could be posting in here for a while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 I'm only in favor of letting this mega-thread go on until Obama does something of importance. We could be posting in here for a while I can't wait to see the 2012 campaign when Republicans REALLY can't use the "he has no experience argument." Unless you nominate Zombie Teddy Roosevelt, you're probably going to have to find a new schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 7, 2008 There are over 60 days until Inauguration Day. Hence the "we could be posting in here for a while" crack. We won't need the experience shtick with the economy planted firmly in a ditch. But that's for another time, when the economy actually heads into said ditch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 pick up a paper buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 Great quote from Newsweek: The debates unnerved both candidates. When he was preparing for them during the Democratic primaries, Obama was recorded saying, "I don't consider this to be a good format for me, which makes me more cautious. I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to myself, 'You know, this is a stupid question, but let me … answer it.' So when Brian Williams is asking me about what's a personal thing that you've done [that's green], and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I fucking changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective'." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 And you think that people are going to blame the policies that haven't been enacted yet...when it's tanking already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 7, 2008 I deleted my last post. Give me a moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
At Home 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 Great quote from Newsweek: The debates unnerved both candidates. When he was preparing for them during the Democratic primaries, Obama was recorded saying, "I don't consider this to be a good format for me, which makes me more cautious. I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to myself, 'You know, this is a stupid question, but let me … answer it.' So when Brian Williams is asking me about what's a personal thing that you've done [that's green], and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I fucking changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective'." I need audio of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 There are over 60 days until Inauguration Day. Hence the "we could be posting in here for a while" crack. We won't need the experience shtick with the economy planted firmly in a ditch. But that's for another time, when the economy actually heads into said ditch. Well, it took 20 years before the public trusted the G.O.P. again after the Great Depression started, so we shall see. Just saying, my friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 Has anyone seen this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 7, 2008 And you think that people are going to blame the policies that haven't been enacted yet...when it's tanking already? First, I'll correct you, and say that our economy is not tanking. It is sinking, like a tire into mud. Slowly. And when you continue to push the gas, you sink further down. Bail-outs are like pushing the gas and spinning the tires. They slowly deepen the hole, and it is much harder for anything to pull the tire out. It's really quite simple. When those policies are supposed to pull us out of the hole and do not, what happens? Doesn't take a genius to figure it out. When promises are made, and the economy does not correct, who gets the blame? Let's ignore that it is unfeasible to expect the economy to correct in four years, as the public generally does not care about what is feasible and what is not feasible. We want lower gas. We do not see lower gas. We get mad at the people in power, even if they cannot control the cost of gas. Gas goes down, people forget about alternative fuels. Bear in mind I'm talking about the public here, and not myself. When they economy corrects, people will forget about it, and spend like crazy. Or you can say that they'll ignore what got us into this trouble in the first place, and afterwhile go back to that behavior. That's the way it works. They care about what they see, and when they see something, they vote based on those controlling government. Who gets the blame? It took 20 years before the public trusted the G.O.P. again after the Great Depression started. Just saying. It's possible that could happen again. Never know. The best thing for Democrats would've been no bailout. Then they would've been absolved of all blame, and certainly would keep power for a long time. They would've had two strong gripes, had all Republicans voted against the bailout. 1. You did not vote for the bailout, and the economy went to shit. 2. You put partisanship before the country, we did not, now fuck you. However, this is two-fold. Let's say Democrats pushed through the bailout, and the Republicans did not vote for it. 1. You voted for something with your majority, and the economy still went to shit. You failed. And you did not need our support. 2. Taxpayer dollars were wasted. Now give your majority back. We'll see. Anyway, Obama gets a fair shake from me. A very fair shake. And I will look at it differently than the public, who will simply not understand why things are the way they are, and who to blame for that. So they point at that guy, the one in the Oval Office. Everything's his fault to them. And if the economy does not tank, we should pack up and wait 8 years. I put it in pretty simple terms. I don't know how anyone could not get that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2008 The next republican ticket will have to come up with an economic plan that isn't the same as Bush's in order for anyone to listen to them outside of their own supporters. Bush may be out of office soon, but his legacy to this country is going to be on people's minds 4 years from now still. If the GOP runs out with the "big cuts for the wealthy" plan again, it won't matter what Obama's policies do as much...because everyone knows those don't work. I agree on the level that people that don't see instant results will want to turn on Obama...but not to go back to the thing that they hate more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 7, 2008 People are very willing to forget about what they dislike if the disliked is clearly a different entity than what they were before. One way of doing that is to quit campaigning on ditching earmark spending while congressmen are still asking for them. STOP TAKING EARMARKS. We need to do what we say, not say what we need to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites