DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2008 Dark match Carlito & Primo Colon b T.J. Wilson & D.H. Smith (FCW tag champs) with Natalya as manager. They are called "The Foundation." Smackdown for 11/28 Vickie Guerrero & Edge open the show together. They are back as a couple. Security is there waiting for the Jeff Hardy attack. Jeff tries but security keeps him away. This show is built around three Beat the Clock matches, Jeff vs. Brian Kendrick, Matt vs. Vladimir Kozlov and HHH vs. Shelton Benjamin. The winner with the fastest time faces Edge for the title at Armageddon Jeff Hardy b Kendrick in 12:13 with a swanton Matt annnounces that he's not going to beat Kozlov, and his goal is just to make sure Jeff gets the title shot Maryse & Natalya & Victoria b Michelle McCool & Bella Twins. One of the twins costs McCool the match. McCool is not a happy camper Matt Hardy kept from being beaten by Kozlov until 12:13 is over, so Matt did his job Jesse & Festus b Miz & Morrison via DQ when Miz & Morrison illegally rang the bell to cause Festus to space out HHH b Benjamin at exactly 12:13 with a pedigree. That means we've got a three way for the title at Armageddon --- Nothing wrong with three 12 minute matches, though I guess we'll see how Koslov vs. Matt turns out going that long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 More detailed spoilers: Non-title: Primo & Carlito def. The Foundation (TJ Wilson & DH Smith w/Natalya). Good match to start the night, and the Colons got a good pop coming out, even more so when Carlito pinned Wilson after the Backstabber. Smackdown, 11/28: Vicki Guerrero no longer needs a wheelchair, or at least until the next time she takes a bump. As you probably know from Survivor Series, she still has the neck brace (that has to go next). She introduces Edge. Yadda, yadda. Edge accuses Jeff Hardy of letting the people down. Haven't we heard that enough already from MVP & HHH this year? Anyway, first Hardy, then HHH, come down, but held back by security (another tired ream). Vlad Kozlov sneaks in on the other side and challenges Edge. Vicki decides to reinstitute the Beat the Clock format to decide which of the three (Kozlov, Hardy, HHH) will face Edge @ Armageddon on 12/14. Hardy def. "The" Brian Kendrick (w/Ezekiel Jackson) in 12:13. Best match on the show. Jackson did exactly nothing until the end when he tried to pull Kendrick from the ring. Hardy would have none of that and kicked Jackson down. Hardy hit a overhead flapjack bomb, then the Swanton. We learn that Kozlov will face Matt Hardy, and HHH faces Shelton Benjamin---again---later. Matt is interviewed by Eve Torres. He claims Edge & Vicki had everything to do with what happened to Jeff. Victoria, Maryse, & Natalya def. Michelle McCool & the Bella Twins when one of the twins accidentally hit Michelle with a clothesline meant for Maryse. The Divas champ berated the twins after until Maria came out to play peacemaker. Michelle is apparently turning heel as she shoved Maria down. Match, predictably, was too short. Non-title: Matt Hardy & Vlad Kozlov went to a draw in 12:13. As we'd find out later, they may be starting a program with these two.......! Jeff is backstage watching, but is confronted by Triple H. The camera cut away at this point, perhaps because it wasn't meant to be shown to the live crowd. Jesse & Festus def. John Morrison & Mike Mizanin via DQ in a return from last week's show. The former champs used the bell to neutralize Festus again, but this time Jesse was ready and attacked Miz on the floor. He then rang the bell to "reactivate" Festus. However, Miz & Morrison doubled on Jesse while still on the floor, prompting the ref to call for the end of the match. There was some comedy after as they goofed around with the bell & Festus after Jesse was beaten down. However, when they dropped the bell, somehow Festus was "awake" and cleaned house. Perhaps he no longer needs the bell? Festus carried Jesse across his shoulders to the back. Mr. Kennedy got in a plug for "Behind Enemy Lines: Colombia" and did a quick interview with Triple H. Hunter simply said, "Watch me." when asked about beating the time and Benjamin. Non-title: HHH def. Benjamin in exactly 12:13. With about 30-odd seconds left, ref Mike Chioda was bumped down. Hunter hit the pedigree, and it took Chioda about a week to make the count. He tolled 3 just as the clock struck zero. Charles Robinson came down and said that the pin wasn't in time, but after a lengthy debate, Chioda told Justin Roberts that it was essentially a tie, so we're getting a 3-way at Armageddon. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Another 3 way at Armageddon. I guess that was the best way. I'm interested to see how they got two matches to go exactly 12:13, and if there were any clock shenanigans going on. Interesting strategy for Matthew, too. I dig it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Another 3 way at Armageddon. I guess that was the best way. I'm interested to see how they got two matches to go exactly 12:13, and if there were any clock shenanigans going on. Interesting strategy for Matthew, too. I dig it. What is there more of in the wwe clock "ties" or "Both hit the floor at the same time" battle royal finishes? Koslov being transitioned to ECW is probably a smart idea. He can even beat Hardy for the title there, feud/work houseshows with Finlay, maul Hornswoggle for more heat and eventually lose the title to an up and comer before he is drafted to Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 I'm interested to see how they start the Matthew Hardy/Kozlov program if they're going that route. And if Kozlov still technically undefeated? He lost the match but wasn't pinned. That's a good question on the ties and battle royal question. I'd probably say ties, but they both are used way more than they should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Recapping "Survivor Series" in Boston. Featured: John Cena, Triple H. (That's from the guide description - I don't think Cena is featured at all). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Guys, i'm crying with laughter at the Miz and Morrison segment after the match ends. Seriously laughing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Watch out for Morrison & Miz making fun of Festus using the ringbell after their match.. in particular Miz and Festus standing side by side 'waking up' as the bell rings. This has Slammy written all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Miz and Morrison are usually one of the highlights of the show. Can't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I hope these two say "WE DON'T OWE YOU AN EXPLANATION!" Stone Cold style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Am I crazy, or has Maryse improved quite a bit in the ring over the past month? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Downhome: That question and your signature make me wonder if Finlay still helps train the divas, or if he's too busy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Miz and Morrison were awesome tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 When do we get the angle where Festus goes deaf for some reason, and he's either stuck as being insane and always going wild all the time or he's always "retarded" and the heels keep him as a pet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I can see eventually Festus faking the heels out when they do something like that...and as they're gloating he attacks them when their backs are turned...now "cured" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 They need to have Regal make him a gentleman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 They need to have Regal make him a gentleman. <Regal>(to Festus)Now say "The Rain In Spain falls mainly on the plain." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I was wondering how they would explain Vickie and Edge now being back together...and they really didn't to anyone's satisfaction. How hard is it for Edge to say "Yeah, marriage counseling works wonders and I recommend it?" The end of the show was puzzling. Are they really just going to have another lame 3 way on PPV (that Jeff will miss due to being attacked again, or he'll be stoned, or maybe both) or will Hardy and HHH wrestle 1 on 1 to determine a real top contender? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I wouldn't be against them doing the two guys wrestle in the very first match on the PPV to determine which one wrestles in the main event for the angle title. Not only would it make sense, but you'll get two great matches out of the deal. Hopefully another great HHH/Hardy match, and then Edge versus either one of em. Add that with a Hardy/Swagger ECW title match, Cena/Jericho, maybe HBK/Rey vs. Miz/Morrison again, and I'm already in for ordering the PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Well, technically HHH didn't beat the clock, he tied it. And since the object is to BEAT the clock, I say HHH is shit out of luck. "Sorry, dude, better luck next time" is what Vickie's answer should be. HHH doesn't deserve the title shot, even in a 3-way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I just watched Smackdown and that Miz/Morrison/Festus segment was one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. I LOLed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarKnight 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Well, my prediction was correct. Will Smackdown get better when Edge comes back? The answer was yes, as I thought this show was much more fast paced and better than the shows of the past few months. As for people wondering how they can explain Edge and Vickie being back together, I really don't want them to. I think they just retconned the breakup angle, and pretending it never happened, as it would be hard to follow-up in storyline stuff like Undertaker sending Edge to hell or whatever. Since Edge never said he attacked Hardy, and they said it is still under investigation, anyone else think it could have been Christian or Tomko? This could be a way they debut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celtic Guardian 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I was wondering how they would explain Vickie and Edge now being back together...and they really didn't to anyone's satisfaction. How hard is it for Edge to say "Yeah, marriage counseling works wonders and I recommend it?" The end of the show was puzzling. Are they really just going to have another lame 3 way on PPV (that Jeff will miss due to being attacked again, or he'll be stoned, or maybe both) or will Hardy and HHH wrestle 1 on 1 to determine a real top contender? Per WWE.com, it's a triple threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 How was HHH/Benjamin? For whatever reason my DVRd SmackDown got all messed up during me FFing through the Raw Rebound and just went to audio only. I admit I had a good laugh over the Miz/Morrison/Festus antics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chazz 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Well, technically HHH didn't beat the clock, he tied it. And since the object is to BEAT the clock, I say HHH is shit out of luck. "Sorry, dude, better luck next time" is what Vickie's answer should be. HHH doesn't deserve the title shot, even in a 3-way. That's what I thought too, but WWE logic says otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Well by that logic, whose clock did Jeff beat? His own? Just because he went first, his time would win in the event of a tie? I guess there is some logic to that, but it's not Fair to Flair... er, HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Spiff has a point, Hardy set the clock time, and it was up to everybody else to beat it. Nobody did, so Hardy should have won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Why doesn't Triple H have an automatic rematch clause in his contract like every world heavyweight champion on Raw seems to have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Well, you see... uh... The Draft... 9/11... HHH has no rematch clause because Vickie is a meanie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Why doesn't Triple H have an automatic rematch clause in his contract like every world heavyweight champion on Raw seems to have? Because everyone knows he has a lifetime rematch clause. He snaps his fingers and he has a title shot. So he's just havin' fun out there. C'mon now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites