Cheech Tremendous Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I must be crazy. I think McNabb is the third best quarterback this decade (behind Peyton and Brady). He's been up and down over his career, but has consistently been one of the best. He always puts up good, but not great numbers and has led some really average teams deep into the playoffs. In any given year, he might not strike you as the third best in the league, but over a sustained period his numbers hold up really well.
Guest Vitamin X Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I must be crazy. I think McNabb is the third best quarterback this decade (behind Peyton and Brady). You're definitely right with Peyton and Brady, but I don't think McNabb is a clear-cut third best. In fact, it's pretty hard to argue who else has been as consistent besides those three- guys like Palmer and Pennington both have had great seasons followed by injury troubles/bad teams that have caused their production to drop off significantly. I think you might want to count Drew Brees in there (particularly from 04 onwards), and aging QBs Favre and McNair both had great seasons this decade as well. Roethlisberger might warrant some consideration as well, but yeah even with McNabb dropping off as of late, for the first half of this decade, McNabb was pretty darn consistently good.
Guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 McNair is clearly better. I think Brees and Favre have also had better decades. After that...I don't know. I don't like throwing guys out there who have had only two or three good years and haven't been consistent in their level of play. For example, Kurt Warner has had four great seasons. One of those was in 1999, and the other three have been spread out. Do I think Warner is a better QB? Yes. Do I think he will go into the Hall of Fame? Yes. But I won't put him up there with the best of the 2000's QB's. He either played poorly or not at all during the middle of the decade. Thinking about it now...McNabb is only worthy of discussion in this topic because he's played the whole decade. 2004 and 2008 are the only years on his resume that stick out and say to me, "wow, he's GOOD." Not deserving.
Precious Roy Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I'm picking the Eagles. The way Arizona has been playing it wouldn't surprise me to see them win, but I really won't be 100% sold on them until I see them hoisting the Lombardi trophy. A win in this game would go a long way towards convincing me they're for real, but I still feel like I'm just suspending disbelief at this point. I mean, I watched this same team get absolutely destroyed by the Patriots in week 16, and by the Eagles on Thanksgiving, and I'm just waiting for them to come back to earth. Winning on the road in Carolina was a notch in their belt for sure, Delhomme shitting the bed not withstanding, and it's surely in their favor to play at home, but I still have a wait and see approach. Even if they beat Philly I don't think I'd pick them against either AFC team.
The Niggardly King Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Seems like every time McNabb was going to have his breakout year, all his momentum would be halted by an injury that would effect him the rest of the year.
The Niggardly King Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Another thing to remember he's never had any good targets. The only year was TO, fuck for years this guy had Todd Pinkston as his security blanket.
MFer Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I must be crazy. I think McNabb is the third best quarterback this decade (behind Peyton and Brady). He's been up and down over his career, but has consistently been one of the best. He always puts up good, but not great numbers and has led some really average teams deep into the playoffs. In any given year, he might not strike you as the third best in the league, but over a sustained period his numbers hold up really well. I tend to agree with this. McNabb's numbers are better than McNair's in TD's, TD/INT ratio, regular season and playoff win % (he only needs another season to pass him in passing yards as well). He's had more team success than Brees and Palmer. McNabb vs. Favre for this decade...maybe I'd go with Favre but he's had his ups and downs since 2000 as well. Probably a little early to throw Eli and Big Ben in the discussion right now (although Ben would shoot up the ranks if he wins the Super Bowl this year). As some have pointed out, McNabb's only had a true #1 WR for one season, and even then, T.O. didn't play in the playoffs that year until the Super Bowl. Also, McNabb had some good seasons before Westbrook became the player he is now. Yes, McNabb does have some warts on his resume, but I've always felt like he's been unfairly criticized relative to what he's accomplished in his career. It just seems like most people want to highlight the negative points in his career and/or minimize the positive points he's had for some reason.
Guest Czech please! Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 It just seems like most people want to highlight the negative points in his career and/or minimize the positive points he's had for some reason. I think the reason is a combination of being black, aloof, and an Eagle.
Cheech Tremendous Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I had ESPN Radio on during my ride home from work today and John Clayton called McNabb a future Hall of Famer. That was probably the first time I've heard someone from the media praise him that highly.
Brett Favre Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 He has to be. He's been to the NFC Championship five times, has a great touchdown-interception ratio, winning postseason record, 85.9 career QB rating, a career record of 73-39 so far.
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I think Donovan is probably going to end up as one of those guys who you don't appreciate until he's gone.
packwingfn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I say McNabb will be a hall of famer only if he gets the ring...Perhaps this year?
Vampiro69 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I am cheering hard for Philly to win the Super Bowl, but I'm 0-4 so far in the NFC playoffs, so I'll probably pick Arizona. Then please pick the Eagles to win. Please?
garfieldsnose Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I definitely think McNabb gets criticized unfairly sometimes, but let's not forget he made the whole Philly/TO thing much worse with his "black on black crime" comment and subsequent handling of the situation. He still holds the 1999 Draft over this Philly fanbase, which he should really let go. We were hoping for Ricky Williams as the #1 pick and didn't get him, so the fans were pissed. I'm sure all of them are eating crow right now and they're fine with that. Sure you'll have retarded fans boo him for anything, but his anger is directed more towards the media than the fans. It isn't the fans who want to run him out of town. I want him to stay here and retire here. He's the best Eagles QB in history, and last year's 75th Anniversary poll proved that.
Slayer Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 You really thought FOX wasn't going to go with their number one (more like number two, m i rite) guy?
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Tuned in just in time to see Edge get two first downs in a row and that Fitzgerald TD. Seen three Dodge Ram commercials already.
Brett Favre Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 WTF, the game started? I thought it was at 3:30.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Adding a new thread feature. On the topic description on the Sports Folder page, you'll note the "Ram-o-Meter" which measures the number of times we've been subjected to the all new dodge ram never back down from a challenge.
Psycho Penguin Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 2 turnovers in 1 play. Unusual.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Shoulda stored the ball more carefully on the return. Maybe in a RAMBOX.
Guest Smues Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Well that was one fuck of a touchdown play.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!
devo Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Good lord! Heck of a throw, but Fitzgerald has just been insane the past few weeks.
Matt Young Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 HO-LY shit Kurt Warner. Is there any better QB to receiver big play combo in the league today than Warner to Fitzgerald? I think not.
strummer Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Holy Shit what a play! Fitzgerald is a beast
Psycho Penguin Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 HO-LY shit Kurt Warner. Is there any better QB to receiver big play combo in the league today than Warner to Fitzgerald? I think not. Not even close. They might be able to let Boldin go at this point.
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