So... what happened?

[JST 0]

Guy leaves for the evening and then this. What'd I miss?

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I don't really get what happened. Apparently, Leena's gone already?

 

I'm very uncomfortable with the way this board transition went down and even less comfortable with the way all the old staff topics were moved to GTG. There's a reason this folder is blocked, you know?

 

I think I found a new board where I'll be spending most of my time. If you guys want to de-mod me, then I accept that.

[Xavier Cromartie 0]

Leelee told me but asked me not to share what she said.

 

Nobody wanted the board transition to go down the way it did.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I don't think it's ever a good idea, but the ones they declassified were very old. The ones that came out this week were done to specifically make the old staff look bad.

[Dear Führer 0]

I've conferred with Mike and Xavier about it. The rest of you can fuck off.

 

For Mike, I know this might seem like it sucks... but, if you decide to keep TSM alive, you're always going to have a core of 100+ regulars that are wrestling fans. After all, your goal is to have a wrestling board. Focus on them, not on the bullshit, and not on the ungrateful worthless shits that always give you a hard time. I've seen that you've done a LOT for this board, and we know you've sacrificed financially by not selling TSM long ago.

 

That's the direction I would suggest going. Good luck.

[Mike 0]

Leena, if you wouldn't mind, lets clean up a few things around here. I am still working on the details for a transfer, but in the mean time, lets clean up some and get back to our normal day to day events here. I have had several comments about how those topics shouldn't have made there way to the public.

[TheFranchise 0]

Having a private conversation in public = Drama Queen.

 

Queens.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Get cleaning, Mike.

[KanadianKrusty 0]

Can Obama bail out Mike?!?!?!?!

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

You know I've read a lot of these threads and followed all this drama and I have just one question...

 

When did people stop just talking? That's all this place is, a place to talk about shit. How does that result in cliques and power trips and drama? I understand it's a wrestling forum, some people are into developing characters and take advantage of the internet's anonymity, but you just ignore those people, and go back to talking. Have moderators for the sole purpose of making sure people can talk without having to deal with spammers. That's it. We don't need an organized monarchy, we need janitors to clean shit up.

 

I see this talk about "transitions" and "the integrity of the board" and I have to wonder when this place to talk was given such a greater sense of importance? The forums are still here, the threads are still here, what's stopping people from just talking, like you've all been doing, for apparently around 6 years?

 

When you start getting into gimmick accounts and the mod staff is "working the board" and people are "retiring", something is seriously wrong. Just go back to talking about shit you like with other people who like it too. That was the plan of this place, that's the only integrity to be found here. A simple place to talk about shit. Nothing more.

 

I mean think about it, the most popular subject around here is the board itself. That's the entire problem in a nutshell.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I guess the secret is if we didn't out "Declassified" in the thread title, he didn't know to move it back.

[alfdogg 0]

Quiet, 8 posts.

[TheFranchise 0]

Bustle, there was nothing wrong with the board. Everybody loved the old TSM.

 

Everything that has happened has come down to just two people and their seemingly amazing ambition to destroy this place.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

You know I've read a lot of these threads and followed all this drama and I have just one question...

 

When did people stop just talking? That's all this place is, a place to talk about shit. How does that result in cliques and power trips and drama? I understand it's a wrestling forum, some people are into developing characters and take advantage of the internet's anonymity, but you just ignore those people, and go back to talking. Have moderators for the sole purpose of making sure people can talk without having to deal with spammers. That's it. We don't need an organized monarchy, we need janitors to clean shit up.

 

I see this talk about "transitions" and "the integrity of the board" and I have to wonder when this place to talk was given such a greater sense of importance? The forums are still here, the threads are still here, what's stopping people from just talking, like you've all been doing, for apparently around 6 years?

 

When you start getting into gimmick accounts and the mod staff is "working the board" and people are "retiring", something is seriously wrong. Just go back to talking about shit you like with other people who like it too. That was the plan of this place, that's the only integrity to be found here. A simple place to talk about shit. Nothing more.

 

I mean think about it, the most popular subject around here is the board itself. That's the entire problem in a nutshell.

 

You make good points, but the truth is boards evolve. Yes, some people show up because they can chat about Randy Orton or Wii Sports and do nothing more, but others learn that it's just one big internet community. You make e-bonds with people and learn more about them then you would just asking them what they thought funniest part of 30 Rock was. It's great that people came to this TSM for mindless (meant in the nicest way, honestly) chatter, but it's even more awesome that some learned of the community aspect of the forum.

The Real TSM is all about keeping those people together. The past 48 hours have yielded some of the most fun I've had at a message board, and almost none of the 100 posts (yeah, that's a lot in 2 days) posts I've made were about wrestling or TV - just community.

 

Something to consider.

[TheFranchise 0]

Venk went from Gulag'd to Banned and now has pink writing.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

Yeah but some of these old threads from the mods showed the same problem. The board can never be more important than the topics it contains. Once it is, shit like this is bound to happen. Mods and admins are supposed to be janitors, not senators.

 

Can't we just call for a people's revolution, go back to talking about the things we all liked to talk about without any concern of who's job it is to clean up? Regardless of who fucked up what, the board and topics are still here, and don't seem to be going anywhere. I don't see the need for this dramatic exodus, and it sucks because some of you bastards posted some good shit.

 

Yeah I know I got 9 posts but still, I wanna see some love around this place, and there's like no actual porn in the LSD forum... so this is my only choice.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

And that's a fair point DrVenkman, it just seems not worth the headache of all this. I mean you guys can still chat with eachother on instant messengers and stuff right? It's just when the main focus of the board is that community rather than the subjects of the forum, you're sure to get a few pricks popping up who feel left out and want to make trouble. If they can do that by fucking with the board, they do.

 

I'm not saying how dare all of you be friends I'm just saying that clique-ness can obviously be a bad thing too sometimes.

[Matt Young 0]

Hi, Battlenuts.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Mike: You probably see my sig. Anyways, there's specific reason it says that: you are an idiot. With all of this, you have proved that you can't run a message board, let alone the banana stand from "Arrested Development." You actually gave power to Leena and you where too stupid to realize

 

-She would fuck you over at the end

 

-To even bother or pay attention to the stunts she paid beforehand.

 

Now, here you are, with a board in anarchy. Why? Because you fucked up. At least man up and admit you did. But you won't. You already banned people for daring to criticize you. You wasted money on a little experiment a man with a frontal lobotomy would realize was a terrible idea. You demoded a pair of mods (and fine mods at that thank you very much) and you are having a meltdown. You hate this message? Then realize that all of this—every fucking thing about this—is your own fault.

 

Go ahead Mike, ban me. You'll just prove my point-and the point of several others. People are leaving, migrating to other places. You are losing traffic. And it's all your fault. Go ahead and ban me. Just another body in Mike's new Nutopia. Won't make a difference.

 

Go ahead…do it.

 

 

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DO IT!

[Smues 0]

Mike: You probably see my sig. Anyways, there’s specific reason it says that: you are an idiot. With all of this, you have proved that you can’t run a message board, let alone the banana stand from "Arrested Development." You actually gave power to Leena and you where too stupid to realize

 

-She would fuck you over at the end

 

-To even bother or pay attention to the stunts she paid beforehand.

 

Now, here you are, with a board in anarchy. Why? Because you fucked up. At least man up and admit you did. But you won’t. You already banned people for daring to criticize you. You wasted money on a little experiment a man with a frontal lobotomy would realize was a terrible idea. You demoded a pair of mods (and fine mods at that thank you very much) and you are having a meltdown. You hate this message? Then realize that all of this—every fucking thing about this—is your own fault.

 

Go ahead Mike, ban me. You’ll just prove my point-and several others. People are leaving, migrating to other places. You are losing traffic. And it’s all your fault. Go ahead and ban me. Just another body in Mike’s new Nutopia. Won’t make a difference.

 

Go ahead…do it.

 

 

 

 

 

DO IT!

 

DO IT!

 

Oh and in that vein:

Board carcass in server. This morning flame posts on feedback folder.

 

 

 

 

[Gary Floyd 0]

Well Mike, I'm waiting.

 

 

[Dear Führer 0]

You are losing traffic.

Traffic the last 3 days has been higher than any non-PPV or Raw period in the last year.

[garfieldsnose 0]

Thanks to most of the members who won't stay here. Quit trying to justify that.

[Dear Führer 0]

I don't have to justify anything.

 

The stats prove it. If a group of pals wants to "leave" here (and we know most won't), we still have a solid core of posters that aren't going anywhere. If you don't want to follow the rules and play nice, we don't need you, kids.

[KanadianKrusty 0]

Well Mike, I'm waiting.

 

He's probably working on a new kickass midi file for his website, give 'em time

 

[dubq 0]

I don't have to justify anything.

 

The stats prove it. If a group of pals wants to "leave" here (and we know most won't), we still have a solid core of posters that aren't going anywhere. If you don't want to follow the rules and play nice, we don't need you, kids.

 

My vision is to get the fuck out of this shithole, and post somewhere with intelligent people that have grown out of doing whatever to be popular on a message board.

[BX 0]

Christ, you should see the numbers for the new board over the last few days. Makes this board look like a Lit fan board.

[Matt Young 0]

I don't have to justify anything.

 

The stats prove it. If a group of pals wants to "leave" here (and we know most won't), we still have a solid core of posters that aren't going anywhere. If you don't want to follow the rules and play nice, we don't need you, kids.

 

We? I thought you wanted more than anything to get out of here, you said.

[909 0]

I'm hoping to be banned for this one, so I'm going to make it good.

 

Fuck.

 

You.

[garfieldsnose 0]

Lots of contradicting going on with the new regime. You're left with the gems like goldengreek, Enigma, and theone. Makes this board elite, doesn't it?