Notables Blast History Channel Documentary

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LOS ANGELES  — Two former presidents and the widow of Lyndon B. Johnson (search) are calling on the History Channel (search) to investigate a documentary it aired alleging President Johnson was involved in the Kennedy assassination. (search)

 

Lady Bird Johnson said the film "falsely and irresponsibly" accuses her husband of conspiring to kill President Kennedy.

 

No accusation made against Johnson "has hurt as painfully," the 91-year-old former first lady said in a Jan. 29 letter. Her husband died in 1973.

 

Copies of her letter were sent to the chief executives of three companies that own A&E Networks, which includes the History Channel. The letters went to Bob Wright of NBC, Victor Ganzi of Hearst Corp. and Michael Eisner of The Walt Disney Co.

 

Former Presidents Ford and Carter also sent letters citing the documentary, "The Guilty Men," which aired last November as part of a series of History Channel specials on the Nov. 22, 1963 assassination.

 

Ford, noting he was the last surviving member of the Warren Commission that determined Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing Kennedy, called the History Channel documentary "reprehensible."

 

Alleging that Johnson, as Kennedy's vice president, was part of a conspiracy to murder him is "the greatest, most damaging accusation ever made against a former vice president and president in American History," Ford, 90, wrote in his Jan. 23 letter.

 

The letters were released Monday to The Associated Press by Tom Johnson, chairman of the LBJ Foundation and a representative of the Johnson family.

 

Calls to NBC and Disney were not immediately returned.

 

"We don't comment on correspondence with our chief executive officer," said Hearst spokesman Paul Luthringer.

 

Tom Johnson said he and three other former Johnson aides planned to meet Wednesday with executives of the History Channel and A&E Television Networks to press for an investigation and for its findings to be made public.

 

Nickolas Davatzes, president of A&E Television Networks, was expected to take part, History Channel spokeswoman Lynn Gardner said Tuesday.

 

Other Johnson aides scheduled to participate are Jack Valenti, now head of the Motion Picture Association of America; journalist Bill Moyers; and attorney Larry Temple.

 

"I'm puzzled, bewildered, that a distinguished enterprise like the History Channel would put on the air such garbage, such ugliness," Valenti said in November. "It makes one sick."

 

When the Kennedy series aired, the History Channel said in a statement that the point of view in "The Guilty Men" was "meticulously researched."

 

"By presenting different viewpoints we enable our viewers to decide to agree or disagree with them and to arrive at their own conclusions," the channel said.

 

OMG!!! TOOL OF THE DEVIL 2004 LOLZ~!!! JOHNSON KILLED JFK !!!

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i want the descendants of lee harvey oswald to get an apology...theres more actual evidence againt lbj than oswald.

[Swift Terror 0]

I saw that show on the History Channel, along with a couple of other shows ("The Men Who Killed Kennedy") about the Kennedy thing which detailed other theories. They were interesting if nothing else.

 

Suing, I don't get--there are books out there with unbelieveable accusations concerning this and I don't see these people suing the authors or publishers.

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ABC did one of these JFK things back in November. And it reaired durring X-mas on the History channel. This show did have atleast 6 major theories told (Lone Gun-Man, Mafia, CIA, Cuba, Russia, and Grassy Knoll). It findings was Oswald acted alone, and was a marksman. He had a good shot. And there is no magic bullet. Gov was sitting bellow and further inside from the President.

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Of all conspiracy theories, I really buy into this one... just watch the tape.

[Austin3164life 0]

I think anyone who believes the lone-gunman theory is a twit. I found the programs to be an interesting insight into the entire Assasination fiasco. The actual truth won't be revealed at least for another decade or two (when all those who were a part of, or around, the event have passed on).

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Isn't there already legislation in process to block the information from going public? That, if nothing else, should be most incriminating...

[2GOLD 0]

Isn't there already legislation in process to block the information from going public? That, if nothing else, should be most incriminating...

 

Apparently the information will only be released when it can't harm certain parties involved. Which really doesn't tell you much of anything since we don't know who the parties involved are.

 

The information was supposed to be released two or three years ago but it was held up again. Don't ask me, I don't understand it and it makes the government look like they are hiding something by not releasing the info.

 

I think Oswald was one of the gunmen, but I don't buy he was alone. I don't buy the government was behind it though, I just think the mob was.

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Good Lord, some of you people are fucking nutjobs.

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Good Lord, some of you people are fucking nutjobs.

You know, I don't always agree with what you say here, but I've really have to back you up on this one. I think that a lot of Americans get confused between reality and Oliver Stone movies.

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Thank you! Just because it makes a good drama doesn't make it the truth. You are telling me that a man with a 90+% on target rating can't hit a person atleast twice in a short peroid of time? He WAS in the Marines. He was just nuts.

 

ABC said it best. "On a scale you put the Nazi party on one side, and 6 million jews on the other. It balances out because you have the greatest crime against the biggest criminals. But if you put JFK on one side, and Lee Harvey Oswald on the other side, it doesn't add up. So there will always be people wanting to balance the load."

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The guy got off what 4 shots in 6 seconds? And 3 of them hit?! And JFK'S body was pushed backward by bullets hitting him from behind?!!

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The guy got off what 4 shots in 6 seconds? And 3 of them hit?! And JFK'S body was pushed backward by bullets hitting him from behind?!!

Yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

hey.. this is the History Channel. They could have said that the Nazis killed Kennedy with a V2.

[MrRant 0]

Don't diss the H yo.

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Thank you! Just because it makes a good drama doesn't make it the truth. You are telling me that a man with a 90+% on target rating can't hit a person atleast twice in a short peroid of time? He WAS in the Marines. He was just nuts.

He didnt get a 90% on any test...except in Russian language maybe. Whered you get that lil nugget of bullshit?

 

He didnt shoot 'twice in a short period of time'. He shot one that missed entirely, one that caused seven wounds in two men, and another kill shot. There may have been more shots, according to eye/earwitnesses. This was in a little under 6 seconds with a bolt action weapon.

 

If Oswald acted alone....why does our government refuse to release valuable information? Wouldnt they want it out since obviously it should prove their findings correct? Why the apparent need to coverup a one lone nut assassination?

 

definition of a nutjub - a person that believes whatever their government tells them.

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Facts:

1- He was a sniper in the Marines

2- There were ONLY three shots fired. All others are bullshit by people who think more.

3- The only fact that Stone got was that JFK was shot. That movie is such bullshit.

4- There is no proof of any other people where there. You can only prove one man from one build 6 stories above everyone.

5- All witnesses point that shots came from the same area.

 

What valuable infomation is not released? Warren Commishion, while flawed in some of its practices, proved only one gunman. There are only proof for ONE PERSON as a shooter. PROVE that there were more than one person involved.

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Facts:

 

2- There were ONLY three shots fired. All others are bullshit by people who think more.

3- The only fact that Stone got was that JFK was shot. That movie is such bullshit.

4- There is no proof of any other people where there. You can only prove one man from one build 6 stories above everyone.

5- All witnesses point that shots came from the same area.

 

What valuable infomation is not released? Warren Commishion, while flawed in some of its practices, proved only one gunman. There are only proof for ONE PERSON as a shooter. PROVE that there were more than one person involved.

1- He was a sniper in the Marines

He actually barely qualified as a sharpshooter.

 

Not that I terribly care about this.

-=Mike

[Guest Wildbomb 4:20]

I'm surprised that this is getting out now. The book Crossfire has been out for well over ten years, and it too comes to the conclusion that LBJ was in on the assassination attempt.

 

I don't necessarily agree with the author's conclusion, but some of the evidence he brings up is fantastic. They also disprove most of what MX is trying to say.

 

Teddy knows who killed JFK. And I'm sure that when he dies, the official truth will come out.

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Facts:

1- He was a sniper in the Marines

2- There were ONLY three shots fired. All others are bullshit by people who think more.

3- The only fact that Stone got was that JFK was shot. That movie is such bullshit.

4- There is no proof of any other people where there. You can only prove one man from one build 6 stories above everyone.

5- All witnesses point that shots came from the same area.

 

What valuable infomation is not released? Warren Commishion, while flawed in some of its practices, proved only one gunman. There are only proof for ONE PERSON as a shooter. PROVE that there were more than one person involved.

Go to blockbuster and rent the film. You tell me which way JFK's body falls.

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Facts:

 

2- There were ONLY three shots fired. All others are bullshit by people who think more.

4- There is no proof of any other people where there. You can only prove one man from one build 6 stories above everyone.

5- All witnesses point that shots came from the same area.

2.Eyewitness reports are bullshit?

4.Do shots from behind normally propel a head backwards?

5.Many witnesses disagree with you here, duder. Do you think that grassy knoll talk just appeared in Stone/Garrison's dreams or something?

 

wow

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Um, explain this one thing, where is the enterence wood on the third shot. Doesn't matter how the body moves, if you get shot from the back...YOU GET SHOT FROM THE BACK. The camera films only show that three gun shots were fired. Use the classic picture of the second and third gun shots. Both are show coming from the back. Explain how you can shoot someone from behind from the front?

 

Hollywood is just that, hollywood. They lie to make a story sell. IE: Pearl Harbor. JFK was a good movie, but like all hollywood movies, it is full of lies.

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Doesn't matter how the body moves, if you get shot from the back

Please take a physics course.

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Um, explain this one thing, where is the enterence wood on the third shot. Doesn't matter how the body moves, if you get shot from the back...YOU GET SHOT FROM THE BACK. The camera films only show that three gun shots were fired. Use the classic picture of the second and third gun shots. Both are show coming from the back. Explain how you can shoot someone from behind from the front?

 

Hollywood is just that, hollywood. They lie to make a story sell. IE: Pearl Harbor. JFK was a good movie, but like all hollywood movies, it is full of lies.

ye well lets not forget that unless anyone saw the footage the day it was actually filmed, then all we ALL have really seen is a government version of hollywood movie making since it is widely known that bits & pieces of the raw footage has been cut and moved around and edited.

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If there's clear cut evidence that Oswald acted alone, then why doesn't the government put an end to all of this conpiracy theory business?

 

If Oswald was a lone nutjob with a gun, then there's no reason for the government to not release all of their info and evidence to the public. The government is just feeding into these conspiracy theories, with their secrecy.

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If there's clear cut evidence that Oswald acted alone, then why doesn't the government put an end to all of this conpiracy theory business?

 

If Oswald was a lone nutjob with a gun, then there's no reason for the government to not release all of their info and evidence to the public. The government is just feeding into these conspiracy theories, with their secrecy.

You just answered your own question there.

[Guest El Satanico]

I already knew the answer, so I wasn't actually asking. They would've already released the info and evidence, if Oswald was where the trail ended.

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Doesn't matter how the body moves, if you get shot from the back

Please take a physics course.

Newton's Third Law of Motion: "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

 

Contrary to what Garrison assumed happened, a bullet entering the skull from the back will cause the head to move, with equal energy, in the opposite direction. BACKWARD. The reaction of Kennedy's skull was backward and to the left. A bullet entering from the right, into the back of the head will cause the a motion opposite the direction of the bullet. BACKWARD AND TO THE LEFT.

 

The history channel proved this with ballistic experts, using gel-filled human skulls and the identical rifle and projectiles.

 

Sequence:

 

1st Bullet: From Texas School Book Depository (TSBD): Missed left and passed through the limousine windshield. Hearing the first shot behind him, Connelly turned to his right, resting his right arm on the car door. His right upper back was pointed directly at Kennedy. His right forearm was directly in front of his chest.

 

2nd Bullet: From TSBD: Hit Kennedy from behind, passing through his throat. The bullet tumbled and hit Connelly below the right shoulder blade. It traveled through his right lung, bounced off his 8th rib, deflected downward striking his right forearm. It then was deflected left and downward stopping just below the skin of his left thigh.

 

3rd Bullet: Point of controversy. I believe it came from the grassy knoll and missed. Witnesses said they saw smoke and heard a shot from there.

 

4th Bullet: Occurred right after the 3 gun shot. It came from the TSBD, striking Kennedy in the head, from behind. His head moved backward with equal energy opposing the forward momentum of the projectile.

 

Oswald got off 3 shots, in six seconds.

 

The head shot was not from the grassy knoll. It was from behind. The angle from the grassy knoll was not consistent, with Kennedy’s injuries, proving that was not the fatal shot.

 

I believe Ted Kennedy knows all the answers. The information will not be released until 2025. I believe Castro had JFK murdered, in response to plots from the CIA and Robert Kennedy, to kill him. Oswald was a communist sympathizer, who had defected to the USSR, at one time. He became a US citizen again, but he was a spy for the USSR. Oswald publicly protested the Bay of Pigs action. He was a lonely man, with an inferiority complex. He wanted to make a name for himself and participated in the plot. The cover up of this plot, by our government, was done to prevent America going to war with the USSR, in response to Kennedy's assassination.

 

LBJ was not involved, even though he did have a shady political past, in Texas.

 

Recently it was learned that Castro was given an order to launch a nuclear missile at Omaha, Nebraska. But it malfunctioned. The USSR then cancelled the order.

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I recommend this site.

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Rule 1 of political assassinations, they are pointless unless you can fuck up the goverment. Russia and Cuba both know that the US has a person below the president to take up a spot. Hell the 23(?) amendment is about this very thing.

 

And grassy knoll theory is just that. There is no way that he was able to have an enterence wound from the back of the head if he was shot from IN FRONT OF HIM.

 

And Physics do prove that one little thing. If you are shot from the back, you are shot from the back.