I couldn't find the SAW 5 thread, but I got around to watching it last night. It was more of a "What Happen, How, and Why" Movie mainly showing how Hoffman met Jigsaw, where's Jeff's little girl, why Hoffman got recruited, how Jigsaw was able to do some of his work, etc. because YES this has been asked on forums about how got some of his big "Missing Pieces" people or victims into his traps of judgment so this film explains ALOT. It was really gory. I cringed watching the first trap with that dude's guts flying everywhere. The drug addict guy was pretty funny and the ending was badass. So all in all, it was way better than the previous film.